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Sony KDSR60XBR1 Another 1080p Question

TheHinge
12-03-2005, 01:12 PM
I'm sorry for beating a dead horse here, but if I get a $4000 Sony KDSR60XBR1 television that has no 1080p input, does that mean when HD-DVD or BluRay come out that I will not be able to view them in all their glory? Thank you.

borromini
12-03-2005, 03:55 PM
That dead horse has been long ago beaten to a pulp! Answer: No.

mrcobbynot
12-03-2005, 05:10 PM
There has been alot of BS about this and nobody truely knows the deal, but you will be able to use your hddvd disk player as long as you have a hdmi connection. you will be able to choose how the hddvd player outputs. You will pick 1080i to output to your 1080p sony set because your set wont take 1080p input and your sony 1080p set will upconvert the signal to 1080p and you will not be able to tell the diff with the nakid eye from a newer 1080p set with 1080 input . The hddvd is the answer to how the picture will look. Right now we all use 480i dvd media and upconvert it to 480p or 780p or 1080i and if you have a 1080p tv your tv may upconvert the 1080i to 1080p but your still watching a 480 disk which holds a lower rez than your tv or dvd player is able to show. When hddvd and blue ray come out it wont make a big diff at all weather your set will input 1080p or just upconvert to 1080p because the hdmovie will look the same awesome resolution :thumbsup:

TheHinge
12-03-2005, 08:23 PM
There has been alot of BS about this and nobody truely knows the deal, but you will be able to use your hddvd disk player as long as you have a hdmi connection. you will be able to choose how the hddvd player outputs. You will pick 1080i to output to your 1080p sony set because your set wont take 1080p input and your sony 1080p set will upconvert the signal to 1080p and you will not be able to tell the diff with the nakid eye from a newer 1080p set with 1080 input . The hddvd is the answer to how the picture will look. Right now we all use 480i dvd media and upconvert it to 480p or 780p or 1080i and if you have a 1080p tv your tv may upconvert the 1080i to 1080p but your still watching a 480 disk which holds a lower rez than your tv or dvd player is able to show. When hddvd and blue ray come out it wont make a big diff at all weather your set will input 1080p or just upconvert to 1080p because the hdmovie will look the same awesome resolution :thumbsup:

So to test this I should watch a DVD with progressive scan and without progressive scan and see if I can tell with the naked eye. Maybe it is analogous to this question.

Emsurfer
12-04-2005, 01:30 AM
I would have to agree with the two responses above. Answer is "NO" and "YES" you will be able to use the future HD-DVD or SONY Blu-ray DVD with the SXRD. Doubtful that the naked eye would be able to tell a 1080p to 1080p vs. 1080i to 1080p unless you are a Naval Aviator with like 20/10 vision or use a magnifying glass to the screen :thumbsup:

dontknowjack
12-04-2005, 02:16 AM
Is there a 1080p Television out there that can receive 1080p signal without having to upconvert 1080i to 1080p?

borromini
12-04-2005, 09:12 AM
Only a few models...

TheHinge
12-04-2005, 01:24 PM
I would have to agree with the two responses above. Answer is "NO" and "YES" you will be able to use the future HD-DVD or SONY Blu-ray DVD with the SXRD. Doubtful that the naked eye would be able to tell a 1080p to 1080p vs. 1080i to 1080p unless you are a Naval Aviator with like 20/10 vision or use a magnifying glass to the screen :thumbsup:


Good thing I wear glasses. I'll never know what I am missing.

RSawdey
12-04-2005, 07:30 PM
Discussion of 1080p modes without mentioning framerate is incomplete... new displays are 1080p/60... but virtually all displays can accept 1080p/30.

If you can't EASILY tell the difference between an interlaced & progressive display, then it's because nothing is moving... once anything moves just look for combing or twitter to identify the interlaced display.

TheHinge
12-04-2005, 08:03 PM
Discussion of 1080p modes without mentioning framerate is incomplete... new displays are 1080p/60... but virtually all displays can accept 1080p/30.

If you can't EASILY tell the difference between an interlaced & progressive display, then it's because nothing is moving... once anything moves just look for combing or twitter to identify the interlaced display.

So you're saying all these 1080p sets can take a 1080p input, just that it is 30fps? And not just 1080p, but all 720p & 1080i sets? Thanks.