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Sony KD-34XBR960 or Plasma TV.... which one?

david4455
11-25-2005, 03:48 PM
space and weight are not an issue for me and I have been eyeing the Sony for years but recently got sidetracked into looking at LCD or plasma TV's.... I keep going back to the Cnet review of the Sony KD-34XBR960 and it really great as well as seeing the picture in a local store........ should I stick to the Sony direct tube or plunge into the world of plasma/lcd?

leevitalone
11-25-2005, 11:46 PM
after lots of investigations, I see one fact prevails with Hd , Tv's, is the best picture is from a tube type at this time. I would definatly go with the Tv you chose. I've had the 27" a 36" and my 34" HD.
If I could have afforded to it would have been the one you chose. I strongly advise comparison shopping. I mean put all the other considered TV's next to the Sony and You will see the difference. This is how I ended uo with my 1st one. There are new technology's out for flat screen but I feel the best bang for your $ is this one.

borromini
11-26-2005, 02:00 AM
I think you need to establish your criteria by priority. PQ / Screen Size / Use (movies, games, %HD viewing, %SD viewing, and of course budget). I don't agree with the previous post as a universal statement. There are plasma and LCD models that have just as stunning an HD image as the Sony you are looking at. If you desire a larger image, then the Sony at 34" is small by comparison to the flat panel displays. If you are playing Xbox 360 or PS3, then Plasma and LCDs will yield better performance because of the progressive display versus Sony's interlaced display. If you are going to be watching more SD programs than HD and SD PQ is important, then the Sony would be best. So as you can see, the choice you make should be based on what's most important to you.

david4455
11-26-2005, 08:32 AM
I think you need to establish your criteria by priority. PQ / Screen Size / Use (movies, games, %HD viewing, %SD viewing, and of course budget). I don't agree with the previous post as a universal statement. There are plasma and LCD models that have just as stunning an HD image as the Sony you are looking at. If you desire a larger image, then the Sony at 34" is small by comparison to the flat panel displays. If you are playing Xbox 360 or PS3, then Plasma and LCDs will yield better performance because of the progressive display versus Sony's interlaced display. If you are going to be watching more SD programs than HD and SD PQ is important, then the Sony would be best. So as you can see, the choice you make should be based on what's most important to you.

I realy appreciate your thoughts.... I think I am more the later....I watch alot of SD TV, a few dvd's and I don't do any gaming at all....I am limited to the HD channels that DIsh network provide and what I can pull in off the air....so I am your basic couch potato looking to buy myself a new TV...it sounds like if I can make peace with the size 34"...the Sony xbr is probably a good choice.

borromini
11-26-2005, 02:12 PM
I would agree...and it is a very nice TV.

njt
11-27-2005, 10:29 AM
In addition to making peace with the size, you can use the guide linked below to get a sense of screen size/room size:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-7608_7-1016109-2.html?tag=tnav

I went with the 960 and couldn't be happier with the PQ (especially in HD). The size and weight concerns are significant, but mostly on move in day. Feel free to PM if there are any specific questions you have about the set.

leevitalone
11-27-2005, 05:48 PM
I think you need to establish your criteria by priority. PQ / Screen Size / Use (movies, games, %HD viewing, %SD viewing, and of course budget). I don't agree with the previous post as a universal statement. There are plasma and LCD models that have just as stunning an HD image as the Sony you are looking at. If you desire a larger image, then the Sony at 34" is small by comparison to the flat panel displays. If you are playing Xbox 360 or PS3, then Plasma and LCDs will yield better performance because of the progressive display versus Sony's interlaced display. If you are going to be watching more SD programs than HD and SD PQ is important, then the Sony would be best. So as you can see, the choice you make should be based on what's most important to you. I have to disagree with the statement that the lcd and plasma are just as good as a tube type. If this were a fact, then why does just about every articale or recommedation from a well informend scource say that although the new generation of flat tv's are good, they still cannot compare to the tried and true tube type. manufacturers are getting better at it, but for black level it's so noticable even to a novice there is a difference. The Sony XBR line is the unbeatable leader undeniable. Everyone has an opiniun and it's a personal thing but I made the statement based on experience and comparision's between them. Upon me entering Circut City where I got mine, they all run away knowing I will have them moving Tv's around to do side x side comparisons. Plus the reviews they get. Not trying to start an argument, just a fact of knowledge. If a larger image is desired my idea is go right to real projection onto a screen. I really think the rest of it is a wate of time. I've seen 50" lcd's and my 34" blows it away!

borromini
11-27-2005, 08:37 PM
Uh, you seem to have taken my remark out of context and to an extreme to make your point about CRTs. I don't mind debating as long as the topic is clear. I was not challenging CRTs dominance in CR nor did I state that flat panels have an overall equality in PQ to CRTs. My comment was regarding a "stunning HD image" that can be had with flat panel displays when considering a criterion matrix for selection. Increasing sales of flat panels and declining sales of CRTs is not solely based on the "thinness" of flat panels. If they were unable to produced stunning HD images, they wouldn't sell nearly as well. The fact is that people don't select TVs based solely on PQ. At some point a good CR rating is good enough to some folks when trying to pick a display technology.

To state that opinions are personal but that yours is backed up by an extensive experience in comparison still simply results in your opinion...same goes for any editorial review. You, I nor any one else on this forum has the market on "factual or knowledgeable" opinions :) Fortunately, we're all allowed to express our opinions freely.

CatManDoo
11-27-2005, 09:11 PM
space and weight are not an issue for me and I have been eyeing the Sony for years but recently got sidetracked into looking at LCD or plasma TV's.... I keep going back to the Cnet review of the Sony KD-34XBR960 and it really great as well as seeing the picture in a local store........ should I stick to the Sony direct tube or plunge into the world of plasma/lcd?Within the next 2 years, I'll be replacing my 34" W/S DV CRT with a 50" plasma. Why? Screen size. The 34" is too small for my viewing area. The PQ is excellent, and it's only a Zenith. I'm sure it would be even better had I gotten the Sony XBR. But it was just a relatively cheap ($1,800) way for me to get into HD until I get a set I can live with for the next 10 years or more. I believe the PQ gap between Plasma/LCD versus CRT's is narrowing each year. There used to be a big difference. Now, with flat panels getting better with each new generation, they are catching up toward good old fashioned tubes which don't have much room left for improvement. Does this help? Good luck! :hithere:

Emsurfer
11-28-2005, 02:16 AM
space and weight are not an issue for me and I have been eyeing the Sony for years but recently got sidetracked into looking at LCD or plasma TV's.... I keep going back to the Cnet review of the Sony KD-34XBR960 and it really great as well as seeing the picture in a local store........ should I stick to the Sony direct tube or plunge into the world of plasma/lcd?

I agree with Borromini that you must establish your size preference first. If you are building your AV theatre in your family room with a viewing distance about 5-7 feet and screen size < 37" then the SONY XBR960 will wreak havoc and destroy any LCD, microdisplay, or plasma. The CRT longevity and durability especially the SONY is proven.

If you're looking in the 34> but < 41" than LCD hands down. 41-45" LCD or Plasma and > 45 Plasma for now because of price.

Advantages of LCD to Plasma: higher resolution, sharper picture

Plasma over LCD: Color depth and nice black levels just shy of CRTs, better viewing angles. Bottom line is you'll hear different stories about why LCD or Plasma so look for yourself side-by-side if you choose the fixed-pixel display route.
:thumbsup:

njt
11-28-2005, 11:11 AM
I think you need to establish your criteria by priority. PQ / Screen Size / Use (movies, games, %HD viewing, %SD viewing, and of course budget).

David, this is the best advice you can get. I was fortunate enough to find this site before my purchase, and this is how I decided.

Borromini also details two of the biggest cons with this set... as you have seen from that other thread the pros yeild quite a long list.

In the end though, there is no "best set", as people's criteria and viewing needs vary widely. Regarding screen size I can tell you that I currently sit farther than the optimal viewing distance, and have been fine. I will most likely be re-aranging the living room though (for a variety of reasons) and that will shorten my viewing distance to the recliner to 7.5'. Whatever you decide... good luck and enjoy! :)

david4455
11-28-2005, 03:14 PM
I bought the Sony KD-34XBR960 today from C.C. They gave me a decent price $1699 plus free in home delivery as well as 10% off the TV stand....hard to say no.... delivery is suppose to be Friday.

What a relief.... two years in research to finally make this purchase.....

leevitalone
11-28-2005, 03:20 PM
Uh, you seem to have taken my remark out of context and to an extreme to make your point about CRTs. I don't mind debating as long as the topic is clear. I was not challenging CRTs dominance in CR nor did I state that flat panels have an overall equality in PQ to CRTs. My comment was regarding a "stunning HD image" that can be had with flat panel displays when considering a criterion matrix for selection. Increasing sales of flat panels and declining sales of CRTs is not solely based on the "thinness" of flat panels. If they were unable to produced stunning HD images, they wouldn't sell nearly as well. The fact is that people don't select TVs based solely on PQ. At some point a good CR rating is good enough to some folks when trying to pick a display technology.

To state that opinions are personal but that yours is backed up by an extensive experience in comparison still simply results in your opinion...same goes for any editorial review. You, I nor any one else on this forum has the market on "factual or knowledgeable" opinions :) Fortunately, we're all allowed to express our opinions freely.
I agree with you. I did not take it out of context, but merley offered my opinion due to my own personal experience's and my own research. Yes the flat panels are catching up, and a definate yes that people do buy sets that are not based on PQ. Decisions are based largley on $ (the biggest) and keeping up with the nieghbors. "If Joe down the st. has a flat panel, I will get one too! " Wich I'm sure we both agree on. I wish to thank you for understanding my point as well as I understand yours. Not all of us see the same upon viewing an object as proven in paintings. I see your point. But the poster did not care about anything but PQ. This led to my opinion. I see he did go with the XBR. I would recommend you read some of the explinations at a simple scource such as written in the "Crutchfield" catalog. who are of the same opinion, and they have done exhuastive research. Just my OPINION! thanks.

borromini
11-28-2005, 08:42 PM
The OP made it also clear that they did not need anything bigger than 34" and if that were not the case...would they still have opted for the CRT over larger screen sizes because of the PQ? I think you'll find that because the PQ gap is no longer very big, most folks don't hesitate and go for the larger screen. :) Good debate nevertheless.