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HDMI not fair

dahur
11-25-2005, 02:52 PM
My understanding is the new HD players(when they come out) will only ouput HD via the HDMI. This is really unfair and not right for the early pioneer consumers like myself who made the big investment for HD . My Zenith 64" widescreen was retail 10K. I got it on sale for $6500 five years ago. So you can see I'm more than miffed that it appears it won't be working with new HD players. I have a VGA and component in but no DVI or HDMI. The studios insistance on the HDMI is going to hurt them, I think. I couldn't be happier with my set, other than minus those connections. It would be great to watch movies in HD, but I for one am not going to invest in a new set just because it has HDMI.
I wonder if some company will come out with a converter box/adapter to go from HDMI to component or VGA.

LordGamer
11-25-2005, 03:04 PM
I did read one article where a Toshiba rep said that might not be the case (that you need HDMI), but everything else has indicated you will indeed need a digital connection to display the HD movies from either Blue Ray or HD-DVD.

Does seem like a low blow to the many HDTV owners that don't have DVI or HDMI. However, I don't believe HD players are going to be mainstream for at least five years. So, by then, the majority of HD sets will probably have the ability to accept a digital connection.

In the next five years, I imagine you would be in the market for a new HDTV, considering yours would be ten years old.

Neither HD format is going to take off next year. Hell, HDTVs while becoming very popular, aren't even close to being mainstream let alone the HD players. And regardless if we see a clear HD format winner in 2006 or 2007, don't expect it to just push the current DVD market aside.

My lengthy ( :D ) point being, unless you are a very early adopter of new technology, you probably shouldn't be concern with HD movies for awhile. With that, if you are an early adopter, then you don't have much room to complain, because you should be upgrading to a new 1080p set soon.

borromini
11-25-2005, 05:38 PM
My understanding is the new HD players(when they come out) will only ouput HD via the HDMI. This is really unfair and not right for the early pioneer consumers like myself who made the big investment for HD.... Doubt they really care since content protection is more important to them then whether early adopters should be taken care of.

...The studios insistance on the HDMI is going to hurt them, I think... I disagree, they are well aware that the public's hunger for high-def DVDs will be real and the fact that many sets that have been sold over the past 2 years have already standardized on HDMI.

dahur
11-26-2005, 10:36 AM
My lengthy ( :D ) point being, unless you are a very early adopter of new technology, you probably shouldn't be concern with HD movies for awhile. With that, if you are an early adopter, then you don't have much room to complain, because you should be upgrading to a new 1080p set soon.[/QUOTE]

What I would have liked to do is get a Playstation 3 for $300-$400 instead of one of the new players ($1000-estimated retail). I am so satisfied with the picture on my Zenith, there's no way I'm in the market for a new set until this one dies. I would like to see a set displaying 1080p though, just to see if there's much difference. My 1080i looks quite stunning in HD. But it only goes to 480p. I still think things should be backward compatible, as much as possible. :) The way technology is ever evolving, something may come out tomorrow and make the sets being bought today obsolete to some extent, like mine. I guess it will always be like that though...

LordGamer
11-26-2005, 11:34 AM
What I would have liked to do is get a Playstation 3 for $300-$400 instead of one of the new players ($1000-estimated retail). I am so satisfied with the picture on my Zenith, there's no way I'm in the market for a new set until this one dies. I would like to see a set displaying 1080p though, just to see if there's much difference. My 1080i looks quite stunning in HD. But it only goes to 480p. I still think things should be backward compatible, as much as possible. :) The way technology is ever evolving, something may come out tomorrow and make the sets being bought today obsolete to some extent, like mine. I guess it will always be like that though...

It's the price we pay for being cool techphiles. :cool:

Side note, I don't believe the PS3 is going to be under $500 and I wouldn't be too surprised if it were in the $600 - 700 range (all the evidence points to a high price tag). So, if that was your main reason, it might not of turned out how you hoped anyway.

dahur
11-26-2005, 03:37 PM
It's the price we pay for being cool techphiles. :cool:

Side note, I don't believe the PS3 is going to be under $500 and I wouldn't be too surprised if it were in the $600 - 700 range (all the evidence points to a high price tag). So, if that was your main reason, it might not of turned out how you hoped anyway.

Have you heard anything about Sony willing to take a loss on each unit because they know they will make up the difference on the games?
:D
I think I read somewhere the Blue Ray drive costs $100 by itself vs. $30 for a red laser.