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2015 - The year I buy no Blu-rays?

GizmoDVD
12-27-2014, 11:42 AM
Is it over? I feel like in 2014 the only Blu-rays I purchased were multi-packs to reduce shelf space (i.e. Riddick Collection and selling off the other movies separately). In total, I probably purchased 8 Blu-rays. I have an Oppo 103 which has played maybe a dozen discs this year (anyone want to buy it? Region free and everything!).

I have a feeling 2015 might net me a big ol' 0. With retailers reducing space (and impulse buys) and with VOD releasing films to rent weeks/months/day and date with Theater, what's the point in spending $15 for a disc when I can rent for $6?

Is anyone else in the same point with drastically reducing spending on discs?

mytime
12-27-2014, 12:21 PM
I bought near 0 last year. Got a few as gifts. What few I did buy I never watch because I used the UV code. Lazy I guess , easier to turn on the player and go through the Vudu library.

bruceames
12-27-2014, 03:30 PM
I need to drastically cut back as well. The amount of unwatched discs that have accumulated is getting ridiculous. But I'm a sucker for box sets and high end limited edition stuff. Probably the only way I'll order zero Blu-rays in 2015 is if somebody cuts off my hands. :lol:

bruceames
12-27-2014, 03:35 PM
I bought near 0 last year. Got a few as gifts. What few I did buy I never watch because I used the UV code. Lazy I guess , easier to turn on the player and go through the Vudu library.

I know what you mean. I have about 180 VUDU titles, but I rarely watch any of them. If I have the Blu-ray I will watch it instead. I have about half of them that were DVD--> VUDU though that aren't available on Blu-ray yet (and probably will never be, since most are Warner and they don't seem to be interested in released their classics on Blu-ray). Those I do intend to watch.

BTW, I got a couple of Roku players last week (a stick and a Roku 3 so I can connect via ethernet), just so I can subscribe to Warner Archive Instant. I love their classics and since they aren't coming out on Blu-ray and they aren't available digitally anywhere else either, I finally threw up my hands and said screw it and bought a subscription.

jkkyler
12-27-2014, 05:27 PM
My habits haven't changed - I buy blu-rays used from the exchange store down the street or on deep sale discounts (I typically don't pay more than $8 for a title except rare new releases I 'must have'). With a front projector and 100+ screen I never go to the movies but instead watch them a lot at home and with wife, kid and friends I would much rather have own a title than rent and with my sound system (added a B+W sub at X=mas :banana:) I want lossless sound tracks - damn you digital kids. I do like the perk of ultraviolet and havinmg my purchases also available for streaming to tablets for on the go use.

ImRizzo
12-27-2014, 08:53 PM
I need to drastically cut back as well. The amount of unwatched discs that have accumulated is getting ridiculous. But I'm a sucker for box sets and high end limited edition stuff. Probably the only way I'll order zero Blu-rays in 2015 is if somebody cuts off my hands. :lol:

Same here, I usually MUST have the latest 'hitech' movie animated features (pixar), specialty movies ie Guardians of the universe,and others based on reviews with 5 star Video and Audio to disc quality Etc. But I still buy a bunch of shit some of which I will most likely not even watch ?? I a have fullblown all-out buying problem

mytime
12-27-2014, 09:14 PM
My habits haven't changed - I buy blu-rays used from the exchange store down the street or on deep sale discounts (I typically don't pay more than $8 for a title except rare new releases I 'must have'). With a front projector and 100+ screen I never go to the movies but instead watch them a lot at home and with wife, kid and friends I would much rather have own a title than rent and with my sound system (added a B+W sub at X=mas :banana:) I want lossless sound tracks - damn you digital kids. I do like the perk of ultraviolet and havinmg my purchases also available for streaming to tablets for on the go use.

Depends on the movie. War or action flick I will grab the disc. Kids movie or comedy then Vudu it is.

iDarren
12-28-2014, 12:13 AM
After 8 years it's only natural that we buy less, as we have built our collections. I am more patient with purchases lately as I am watching a lot of my hitherto unwatched disks.

Lee Stewart
12-28-2014, 12:49 PM
I buy one or two movies a year - usually older films that have been remastered. Been that way for a couple of years.

ack_bak
12-29-2014, 10:26 AM
I think 2014 was the least amount of movies I have bought since HD-DVD and BD was released. My time has shifted towards watching more TV shows (some on Blu-Ray, most not) playing more video games, and my car habit which takes up a lot more money and time.

I buy mostly used and usually wait a few months to pickup releases but do splurge sometimes on a 3D family movie now and again. Kids are streaming more, but we do have family movie nights about 4 times a month on the big screen and it is almost always a Blu-Ray.

I still enjoy packaged media quite a bit and do hope that there is another generation of packaged media before we go exclusively digital. Time will tell.

I will say my inclination is to rent more than buy, but because I pickup so many used movies for under $10 it makes it harder not to spend a few more $$ to own it. Although my collection is getting so large now I am trying to be more selective about what I do buy.

jkkyler
12-29-2014, 01:54 PM
TBH though, if I did not have a flagship (for the year of manuf) plasma tv and a projector and 100" screen I probably wouldn't have bought 2/3 of the discs I currently have.

morriscroy
12-29-2014, 03:50 PM
zzz zzz zzzzzzz zz .....

iDarren
12-30-2014, 03:10 AM
I pickup so many used movies for under $10

I pick up most of my movies, brand new, for under 10 dollars.

morriscroy
12-30-2014, 02:24 PM
Is it over?

*** chop ***

Is anyone else in the same point with drastically reducing spending on discs?

As an aside.

I'm coming to the reluctant conclusion that movies and tv shows have largely been a "phase" for me, over the past few years since 2011.

At heart, I'm realizing that I'm not a tv/movie person at all. :crying:


Over the past few years I found that I was more excited by the act of buying and cataloging my disc collecton, than watching the actual movies/shows on the discs. (Albeit a very inexpensive hobby nowadays).

Also I found that I was very excited about ripping the isos from dvd/bluray discs, while the actual show/movie content themselves were tertiary or completely inconsequential to me. (For example, I wrote my own program to dump the low level raw data from a cd or dvd disc, before any of the error correction, interleaving, etc ... is performed). Something is not "quite right" if one is more excited by the technical details of discs, than the actual storyline content of the actual shows/movies on such discs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_error_correction

morriscroy
12-30-2014, 02:36 PM
If I had known what I know now, most likely I would have never started buying dvds/blurays in 2011.

In hindsight, I probably would have been fine with the Star Wars dvds I already had previously, and the original Battlestar Galactica. (Even back in the 2000's, I hardly watched any of my other dvds like Cheech and Chong, Beavis and Butthead, Matrix trilogy, Terminator, the original Total Recall, etc ...)

In the case of Star Trek, I found that I preferred to watch the episodes on daily tv reruns, than watching them on dvd/bluray. I'm not really sure why exactly this is the case, besides laziness.

Lee Stewart
12-30-2014, 06:15 PM
My experience amassing large collections of Laserdiscs then DVD then HD/BD is . . . the more titles you own, the less you watch each individual one. It becomes collecting for the sake of collecting with too many impulse buys

bruceames
12-30-2014, 07:10 PM
I think everyone gets burned out on watching too many movies or TV shows. It's such a passive experience, that you sometimes feel you could be doing better things with your time. It's a great way to escape and to unwind, but in my experience only works in reasonable doses.

Also getting so many movies you feel like the collection owns you, rather than the other way around. Purchasing them entails an "obligation" to watch them, so you become like a slave to your own content.

That said, it is a hobby I greatly enjoy, and sharing experiences with fellow collectors on the internet is very satisfying, and it keeps me up to date with whats going on with home video and home entertainment systems. Besides, it's not really that expensive a hobby as most others are.

mytime
12-30-2014, 09:05 PM
I have so many hd DVD and bds that are still in the shrink wrap. Most likely will never get to them.

Lee Stewart
12-30-2014, 09:16 PM
I have so many hd DVD and bds that are still in the shrink wrap. Most likely will never get to them.

I am proud to say that never happened to me . . . ever.

Unfortunately, too many times, I will watch a movie once and that's it. Should have rented it instead of buying it. :banghead:

iDarren
12-31-2014, 03:11 AM
I have so many hd DVD and bds that are still in the shrink wrap. Most likely will never get to them.

I've been selling my HD DVD's off on ebay.

HD Goofnut
01-08-2015, 11:39 AM
2015 - Another year that I keep buying BDs.

aaronwt
01-08-2015, 01:40 PM
Is it over? I feel like in 2014 the only Blu-rays I purchased were multi-packs to reduce shelf space (i.e. Riddick Collection and selling off the other movies separately). In total, I probably purchased 8 Blu-rays. I have an Oppo 103 which has played maybe a dozen discs this year (anyone want to buy it? Region free and everything!).

I have a feeling 2015 might net me a big ol' 0. With retailers reducing space (and impulse buys) and with VOD releasing films to rent weeks/months/day and date with Theater, what's the point in spending $15 for a disc when I can rent for $6?

Is anyone else in the same point with drastically reducing spending on discs?

For me just the opposite. i purchased hundreds of HD DVDs and BDs between 2006 and 2009. And then my purchasing fell off a cliff for the next three years. But in 2013 and 2014 I purchased more titles than I have in a long time. Mainly because of all the 3D BDs and Anime BDs I purchased. And so far in 2015 I've already purchased several BDs. Although they were all pre-orders for Anime BD titles.

iDarren
01-09-2015, 08:25 AM
I bought about 40 DVD's in the last few weeks :D

mytime
01-09-2015, 08:31 AM
I bought about 40 DVD's in the last few weeks :D

Where do you find the time to watch them? Lol

iDarren
01-09-2015, 07:52 PM
Where do you find the time to watch them? Lol

They were classic Dr Who DVD's. When I have the complete line I will start an epic marathon and watch every show in order :D

morriscroy
03-09-2015, 07:52 PM
So far the only blurays I picked up this year, is really stupid stuff like:

- Jackass Bad Grandpa
- tons of bad movies from The Asylum (mostly $2 dump bin stuff)
- lousy action movies with Stallone, Schwarzenegger, etc ...

bruceames
03-10-2015, 08:00 PM
I'm starting to cut way back this year. I just look at my unwatched collection and think damn, I gotta get this under control.

GizmoDVD
03-13-2015, 09:09 PM
I bought a $6 copy of Grand Budapest hotel...that's it so far. Oh, and I think a $5 copy of Garden State to replace by Region B locked version.

Streaming for me.

HD Goofnut
03-19-2015, 01:36 PM
I'm starting to cut way back this year. I just look at my unwatched collection and think damn, I gotta get this under control.

I'm almost caught up. My watch soon stack has dwindled down to Foxcatcher, Flash Point, and Seven Days in Utopia. After that I won't have but a few BDs that I have never watched.

bruceames
03-21-2015, 11:21 AM
I'm almost caught up. My watch soon stack has dwindled down to Foxcatcher, Flash Point, and Seven Days in Utopia. After that I won't have but a few BDs that I have never watched.

Yeah, I just don't watch that many movies and never did really. I only average a movie every other day and have been buying an average of a movie a day for the last several years. :banghead:

HD Goofnut
03-26-2015, 06:54 PM
Yeah, I just don't watch that many movies and never did really. I only average a movie every other day and have been buying an average of a movie a day for the last several years. :banghead:

Watched a lot of new stuff lately as I am home for another week and a half with our third child that was born last week. My unwatched stack is now down to Killing Me Softly (found the steelbook for $10 and that's worth the rental because I can sell it for that), Flash Point, and Seven Days in Utopia.

morriscroy
03-26-2015, 08:33 PM
Yeah, I just don't watch that many movies and never did really. I only average a movie every other day and have been buying an average of a movie a day for the last several years. :banghead:

Most of my purchases is for rather sordid purposes, unrelated to watching the actual movies/shows on such discs.

My hobby has been deciphering how various basketcase dvd copy protection schemes function (beyond CSS). Mostly it involves writing my own computer to code to decipher the content of the *.ifo files.

I ended up picking up a lot of known baseketcase drm dvd titles, for such purposes. These days, such titles are mostly $2 dump bin fodder.

morriscroy
03-26-2015, 08:38 PM
More dump bin finds.

- a special edition of The Hunger Games (with a giant acrylic plastic chunk and dvd copy)
- special edition of Ted (with a bottle cap opener)
- more bad movies from The Asylum

bruceames
03-27-2015, 02:34 PM
Watched a lot of new stuff lately as I am home for another week and a half with our third child that was born last week. My unwatched stack is now down to Killing Me Softly (found the steelbook for $10 and that's worth the rental because I can sell it for that), Flash Point, and Seven Days in Utopia.

I doubt I'll ever catch up, but at least I won't be falling further behind since I've put all purchases on hold. I've been on a low(ish) carb diet and oddly it has changed my mindset about many things and watching TV for some reason is one of the victims (although I expect it to be temporary as I will add more carbs into my diet when I reach my goal weight). Funny I never figured carbs would make you want to watch TV more. :p

morriscroy
03-27-2015, 08:02 PM
I doubt I'll ever catch up, but at least I won't be falling further behind since I've put all purchases on hold. I've been on a low(ish) carb diet and oddly it has changed my mindset about many things and watching TV for some reason is one of the victims (although I expect it to be temporary as I will add more carbs into my diet when I reach my goal weight). Funny I never figured carbs would make you want to watch TV more. :p

I've found that my ocd compulsive impulse buying is significantly curtailed when I stopped drinking coffee. (Though the ocd is not completely eliminated).

Whenever I start drinking coffee again, my spending on dvd/bluray/cd goes back into overdrive.

This happens every single time. :crying:

bruceames
03-28-2015, 08:00 AM
I've found that my ocd compulsive impulse buying is significantly curtailed when I stopped drinking coffee. (Though the ocd is not completely eliminated).

Whenever I start drinking coffee again, my spending on dvd/bluray/cd goes back into overdrive.

This happens every single time. :crying:

I'm too chicken to cut out the coffee, although I now only restrict it to the morning (about three 10 oz cups of 50% caffeinated). So it helps jump start me for work and has no effect by the time I get home and want to watch a movie. Actually maybe if I cut it out it would make me less sleepy in the evening and more "movie ready". :D Coffee does tend to make some people a morning person.

morriscroy
06-20-2015, 07:27 AM
Something else I've been noticing, that seems very counter intuitive.

Back when I first started buying a lot of dvds and blurays in 2011, I stopped using streaming (and vod) services at the time, thinking that I would watch dvds and blurays more.

Fast forward to the present (ie. 2015), I recently went back to watching streaming services, after not really using them for a several years. This may sound really strange and counterproductive, but I found that I ended up watching streaming tv shows for which I already owned the dvd/bluray sets, but haven't watched through any of these same dvd/bluray sets.

I don't know whether it is just laziness or apathy on my part, but I found that I was more excited about watching stuff on streaming services or cable tv, than searching my bookshelves for the same movie/show on dvd (or bluray), putting the disc into the player, fast forwarding through the previews, etc ... and watching. :banghead:

It seems like the only reason I'm still buying any dvds and blurays these days, is to "complete" my collection and being more excited about ripping dvd/bluray discs on the computer than actually watching any of the actual content on the discs.

morriscroy
06-20-2015, 08:11 AM
(More off-topic ranting).

I remember back in the early 1990's when I first heard about computer cd-rom drives which could copy audio cds, I thought that one day hard drives would be large enough that I could copy my entire music cd collection to the computer.

By the mid-2000's, terabyte sized hard drives were easily available at decent prices. In principle I could have ripped my entire music cd collection to several terabyte sized external hard drives, without any compression. (ie. A few thousand music cds). But by then, I really didn't care anymore. Since then, I found it was easier to just listen to the same music on youtube.


In a similar parallel, back in the early-2000's I was thinking that one day hard drive space will be plentiful and cheap enough that I could rip a large dvd collection to the computer.

That day is here already. Over the past few years, I backed up most of my tv season dvd sets onto several large 4 terabyte sized hard drives. (At one point I even dedicated one hard drive to backing up my bluray tv season sets).

But now I find that I really don't care anymore. I rarely ever watched stuff from these hard drives via a wdtv box. (I only ever watched a few shows from the hard drive: Damages, Sarah Connor Chronicles, HBO Rome, Borgias). Otherwise, I found that I was more excited about watching most movies and tv shows on cable tv (both first-run and reruns), and more recently on streaming.

GizmoDVD
06-27-2015, 12:16 PM
I bought a copy of The Descendants on Blu-ray (for $5)...for the Digital Copy. It's come to that point. Now I am going to sell the Blu-ray disc....weird times.

bruceames
06-28-2015, 07:23 AM
I bought a copy of The Descendants on Blu-ray (for $5)...for the Digital Copy. It's come to that point. Now I am going to sell the Blu-ray disc....weird times.

Blu-rays are dirt cheap these days. With the DVD/DC you can get some real bargains. I don't think the studios are very pleased with the price erosion and is why they want to get away from physical media altogether.

I haven't bought any movies since February but yesterday I did break down and ordered the 8 movie Clint Eastwood set (the one from Universal) from Amazon UK for $37 shipped.

mytime
06-28-2015, 08:53 AM
Blu-rays are dirt cheap these days. With the DVD/DC you can get some real bargains. I don't think the studios are very pleased with the price erosion and is why they want to get away from physical media altogether.

I haven't bought any movies since February but yesterday I did break down and ordered the 8 movie Clint Eastwood set (the one from Universal) from Amazon UK for $37 shipped.

Yeah. Got the 20th anniversary edition of Schindler's List for $9 a few weeks back.

morriscroy
07-09-2015, 04:40 PM
I may very well be out of the game too now.

Lately I've been noticing some of my dvd and bluray discs have been developing bad sectors. Previously, these same discs played fine and ripped perfectly on the computer back when I first purchased them (or a year or two later). Under bright light, these particular discs don't look any different than the day I first purchased them (within the past four years).

Most likely there's something chemical going on in between the disc layers, like an invisible "disc rot" eating away. Now none of my drives/players can play these discs properly at all. :banghead:

Some of these titles were released over 2008 to 2010. (Or a later pressing manufactured a few years after).


I've also come across some of my music cds also developing bad sectors. (I haven't checked my music cds as often).

I don't believe any of these newly produced bad sectors are due to environmental issues. I keep my cd/dvd/bluray collection in a cool dry room, with a dehumidifier on.


If optical discs are meant to decay away whether deliberately and/or due to shoddy quality control (or design), then one is essentially buying a "perishable" with an unknown expiry date.

No point anymore in collecting such a "perishable" commodity, even if they're just $2 or $5 a pop.

morriscroy
07-09-2015, 05:07 PM
Oh well.

I guess it was a fun four years (2011-2015) spending probably around a grand total of $10k or so on dvd/bluray + computer drives. Basically another form of indulging in my extreme obsessive compulsive behavior.

(I probably spent even more over the past 30+ years on music cds and vinyl records)


I guess my bookshelves full of music cds and dvds/blurays, will be a big reminder to me of how much my ocd was all for naught. :gamer

Not even the satisfaction of bragging rights! :rolleyes:

morriscroy
07-09-2015, 05:22 PM
I guess I'll have to find a new hobby. Most of my previous hobbies have largely fallen flat for me.

(For example).


Recently I tried reading through some of the novels from my large collection of Star Trek and Star Wars books. But so far they're rather boring stories.

Also tried playing some euro-style boardgames with some local friends. That didn't work out so well, with some friends who are hyper-competitive players.

Yesterday I turned on my xbox360, and came to the realization that I'm not into video games at all these days.

etc ....

morriscroy
07-10-2015, 03:06 AM
Back in the 80's when music cds were starting to get popular, I vaguely remember there was some propaganda going around which asserted that pressed music cds could last our entire lifetimes (in principle) without ever going bad.

(I haven't found any obvious sources/references of this propaganda, which popped up on google).

On the other hand, I don't remember hearing the same propaganda in regard to laserdiscs. But I just tacitly assumed the propaganda also held true for laserdiscs, and later in the 1990s for pressed dvd discs.


I never believed burned cds and dvds could last a lifetime. (My first few burned cd discs full of data, starting going bad a year or two after they were burned). Nevertheless for a long time, I still wrongly believed pressed cd/dvd/bluray discs could last my lifetime, without ever going bad.

In hindsight, if some of my movie dvds had went bad before 2011, then most likely I would have never started buying a lot of dvds and blurays in 2011. (At the time circa 2009 or 2010, my two dozen or so dvds purchased before 2011, all played fine and/or ripped perfectly on the computer).

bruceames
07-10-2015, 02:45 PM
Lately I've been more into reading books than watching movies. I like books on climbing expeditions, disasters and survival stories. Often a movie will inspire you to read the book and vice versa. For example, I watched The Eiger Sanction because it has the last third of the movie about the north face of the Eiger mountain, where many climbers have died.

morriscroy
07-10-2015, 06:18 PM
I've been trying to get back into reading books. But so far my selections and attempts have been rather lackluster.


I decided to look into the new Star Wars continuity. (IIRC, last year Disney/Lucasfilm wiped out the old continuity of the expanded universe covered in the novels over the past 25+ years, and rebooted everything to a clean blank slate starting with only the movies and the clone wars cartoons). Surprisingly the local public library had the first few novels on the shelves. I tried reading the first several chapters from the first two books in the new continuity, but found them to be rather boring. (ie. Tarkin and A New Dawn).

Other books I've been reading, are about war simulations. They more or less tread over ground I'm already familiar with. (Back in the day I use to play wargames with local friends). Nothing really new or exciting to me.

I've been looking at some of the Star Trek graphic novels (at a nearby big box bookstore) which cover the timeline after the 2009 reboot movie. Most of them look like remakes of the old 1960s era Star Trek episodes, but featuring the rebooted characters. Not entirely interesting.


On the non-fiction side, I've been reading through some of my old engineering textbooks from college on various topics like: quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, heat transfer, control theory, fluid mechanics, etc ... Mostly going over already covered ground. Not entirely that exciting going over it a second (or third) time around.

I think the deeper more underlying questions, are more interesting than the generic textbook stuff. Questions like:

- What exactly is quantum mechanics?
- Why is the speed of light constant in vacuum?
- Is P=NP or P != NP in computer algorithms ?

(ie. If we live in a world where P=NP is indeed true, then what are the consequences?)

morriscroy
07-10-2015, 08:40 PM
It seems like one of the big hazards of reading web sites like tvtropes.org and watching a lot of tv shows + movies, is second guessing everything I read in fiction books (like sci-fi/fantasy).

Many sci-fi/fantasy/crime/mystery/military/etc .... fiction authors don't seem to deviate too significantly from generic tropes of a particular niche. Otherwise it becomes too "unfamiliar".

morriscroy
07-11-2015, 10:20 AM
I guess it was a fun four years (2011-2015) spending probably around a grand total of $10k or so on dvd/bluray + computer drives. Basically another form of indulging in my extreme obsessive compulsive behavior.

Doing a rough back-of-the-envelope calculation, the $10k or so I spent on dvd/bluray over the past four years, would have been approximately the same amount of money I would have paid for premium cable+vod services over the past four years, if I had not dropped them back in 2011.

Back in 2011, I completely dropped all of the vod and premium cable services I was using, and only had bare bones basic cable (ie. scifi, spike, amc, cnn, generic ota networks, etc ...) over 2011 to 2015.

zip2play
07-14-2015, 08:34 AM
I watch a movie once, rarely twice. Renting or streaming is perfect. Who needs to collect piles of expensive plastic that will eventually go as extinct as the dodo?
Certainly not me in a Manhattan apartment where space comes at a HUGE premium.

I learned my lesson when I threw out lots and lots of VHS tapes and their players.

morriscroy
07-21-2015, 12:42 PM
After more than two months of not drinking any coffee, I'm coming to the realization that I'm definitely not a movie/tv person at all. (My previous attempts at discontinuing coffee, only lasted several days or weeks at a time).

Back when I was a kid/preteen in the days before I started drinking a lot of coffee, for some strange reason I would either get motion sickness and/or totally "blacked out" whenever I watched movies or long episodes. (Both in the theater and on tv). "Blacked out" in the sense of not remembering anything I saw.

By the time I was in college, I was already drinking a lot of coffee every day. While buzzed, I could easily watch many movies and/or long tv episodes.


After not drinking any coffee over the past two months, I've been getting motion sickness and "black outs" every time I watched any movies and/or long tv episodes. (Even comedy movies with very little or no action). I also find myself falling asleep easily whenever I'm watching tv. These are the exact same things that happened when I was a kid/preteen. :banghead:

At this point, the only stuff I can still watch on tv without "blacking out", headaches, falling asleep, motion sickness, etc ... are 15-minutes cartoon episodes. (Lately I purchased all the 1970's and 1980's SuperFriends cartoons on dvd). Even then, I can only watch 1 or 2 episodes, before I start getting headaches and/or falling asleep. :crying:

morriscroy
07-21-2015, 02:19 PM
- Is P=NP or P != NP in computer algorithms ?

(ie. If we live in a world where P=NP is indeed true, then what are the consequences?)

(Going very far offtopic).

A semi-amusing article on a world where P=NP

http://www.dailydot.com/opinion/equation-that-would-change-internet-and-solve-worl/

One possible consequence of P=NP being true, is encryption becoming completely useless. :haha:

bruceames
07-23-2015, 08:28 AM
After more than two months of not drinking any coffee, I'm coming to the realization that I'm definitely not a movie/tv person at all. (My previous attempts at discontinuing coffee, only lasted several days or weeks at a time).


Congrats on dropping coffee, I'd like to do it myself. Coffee doesn't make me want to watch more TV, since I normally watch TV in the afternoon or evening, by which time the effects of caffeine have worn off. On the contrary, because coffee makes me such a morning person, I usually feel sleepy in the PM so coffee makes me watch less TV.

But lately I haven't been watching TV at all and instead have been reading books about the Hollywood Golden Age and climbing expeditions in the Himalayas. So obviously no reason for me to buy any more movies.

Lee Stewart
07-23-2015, 11:44 AM
I drink 4 cups of coffee a day; two in the morning to get my heart started :lol: and two in the early evening as a beverage. Caffeine has never affected me as far as keeping me from going to sleep.

I watch about 2 hours of TV a day, usually 3 or 4 TV episodes on Netflix, Hulu or my own DVDs. I have trouble watching a full length movie. THAT seems to put me to sleep :lol:

I have always been a reader and read from 6 to 8 hours a day - all fiction.

Haven't bought a DVD or a BD in 2 years. Finally was able to kick that addiction. And my wallet thanks me. :lol:

bruceames
07-23-2015, 02:39 PM
I drink about 4 cups as well, about 10oz size, but 1/2 caffeinated and 1/2 decaf. 3 in the morning hours and one right after lunch. It doesn't affect my sleep, but it does make me more drowsy in the afternoon and (probably) evening as well. After all, anything that perks you up has to have a side effect. Nothing is free in this world, especially a buzz. :lol:

I wish I had time to read more. Lately I've been working 50 hour weeks and spend a lot of time cooking/cleaning (due to the low carb routine, which requires that you cook your own special food) and lots of exercise. By the time I'm done with all that I'm pretty much wasted. A good book will keep me awake a lot easier than a movie will. Besides, even before I changed my eating habits, I had trouble watching a movie in one sitting. At least with a book there's no problem putting it down whenever you feel like it.

mytime
07-23-2015, 07:18 PM
Getting lazy. My son really likes the movie Home. Instead of ordering or going out to buy a BD I just got it off of VUDU. He can easily watch it on any tv in the house as well as the tablets and PCs.

bruceames
07-23-2015, 08:31 PM
Getting lazy. My son really likes the movie Home. Instead of ordering or going out to buy a BD I just got it off of VUDU. He can easily watch it on any tv in the house as well as the tablets and PCs.

Convenience rules, especially when it comes to the younger generation. My 4 year old granddaughter can browse my VUDU collection, which also has a lot of Disney stuff. Saves me a lot of time looking for DVDs (or BDs) and she likes the power of choosing on her own. Same goes for Netflix (which she actually prefers).

morriscroy
07-24-2015, 03:36 PM
Previously I was drinking 3 or 4 cups a day. Frequently more than 5 cups a day.

The first week or so of giving up coffee was strange.

mytime
07-24-2015, 07:46 PM
Convenience rules, especially when it comes to the younger generation. My 4 year old granddaughter can browse my VUDU collection, which also has a lot of Disney stuff. Saves me a lot of time looking for DVDs (or BDs) and she likes the power of choosing on her own. Same goes for Netflix (which she actually prefers).

Yeah. The deciding factor was it was not something I was interested in. Lately though I find my self putting in a movie and turning it off after 15 min or so. Just lose interest.
If people like us stop watching discs I wonder about their future.

mytime
07-24-2015, 07:47 PM
Previously I was drinking 3 or 4 cups a day. Frequently more than 5 cups a day.

The first week or so of giving up coffee was strange.

God I love my Keurig. Lol

bruceames
07-24-2015, 09:16 PM
Yeah. The deciding factor was it was not something I was interested in. Lately though I find my self putting in a movie and turning it off after 15 min or so. Just lose interest.
If people like us stop watching discs I wonder about their future.

I haven't watched any TV in almost 2 weeks now (I've been feeling really sleepy in the evenings lately, lol). But whenever I do I always watch a disc. However I realize I'm a dying breed.

Streaming quality has improved quite a bit, to the point where the difference in quality is often outweighed by the convenience, even for more discerning PQ buffs like us.

Superman
07-25-2015, 06:18 AM
I think I've actually increased spending on BDs in the last year. But that's in part because my HD DVD player died and I'm replacing some of those titles I still really want.

mytime
07-25-2015, 03:32 PM
I haven't watched any TV in almost 2 weeks now (I've been feeling really sleepy in the evenings lately, lol). But whenever I do I always watch a disc. However I realize I'm a dying breed.

Streaming quality has improved quite a bit, to the point where the difference in quality is often outweighed by the convenience, even for more discerning PQ buffs like us.

Have you tried 4k Netflix streaming? If so how is it?

bruceames
07-25-2015, 05:07 PM
Have you tried 4k Netflix streaming? If so how is it?

Yes I've tried it and it's a pretty significant jump over 1080p Netflix. I'd say it's on par with Blu-ray (if anything Netflix 4K would get the nod). That's going to be a big deal when more people have it, and will get some of them to give up physical media altogether.

On the other hand 4K video from the Sony Unlimited site is a very modest step up from Blu-ray (although it easily beats Netflix since it has a higher bit rate).