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pwnstar
11-12-2005, 05:12 AM
I'm looking for a dirt cheap HDTV... well, somewhere in the range of $300 or less. My local Wal-Mart claims that an RCA 27inch is HDTV... Yet I can't find it on RCA's website. I found a NEAR identical TV on RCA's website which is SDTV. The TV at Wal-Mart is supposed to be HD, WM also had this SDTV that I found at RCA's site, and the product numbers didn't match. The "HD" had HD component inputs, but the SD had regular components... what on earth am I missing in all of this? I'm completely lost. I don't have a lot of money, otherwise I would be going for something nicer. Also RCA's website shows the SDTV in the HDTV category. The 2 TV's differences are also that one says HDTV above the screen on the left corner, and TruFlat on the right corner... the other just says TruFlat on the left corner... I'm so incredibly lost! How can I tell if a TV is really HD? Because I know it could possibly be an error in the online catalog. I've been led so many ways on this. I have more questions, but I'll save them for later. Please help me... it would be most appreciated!

borromini
11-12-2005, 07:46 AM
Don't know why you feel so confused, if the TV's case actually has the letters HDTV on one corner above the screen as you've noted, then it is an HD model. Therefore, it must be a CRT that displays 1080i. Assuming WM is giving you a return policy, just buy it and give it a try as long as you have an HD source like OTA antenna, cable or satellite to test it. If you don't like it then return it. You don't have many options since your budget is at the true bottom of the scale.

pwnstar
11-12-2005, 07:07 PM
Ok... on to my next big question. I understand interlaced and progressive... but I don't understand 480, 720, and 1080. So far I know progressive is better... but is 720i better than 480p? Or 1080i better than 720p? Thanks very much for help.

RSawdey
11-13-2005, 12:48 AM
Thompson/RCA has some TVs that have digital compatible inputs, but they're still old analog technology for the display - 800 x 600i at best.

There is no 720i. The i is for interlaced, the p is progressive. The numbers are the number of horizontal scan lines, or pixels. The other metric you need to understand is framerate, the number of frames per second. 720p/60 has twice the framerate of 1080i/30, is progressive instead of interlaced, and has vertical resolution of 720 lines instead of 1080.

bboncorr
11-13-2005, 02:16 AM
if you dont really care about the brand and quality then walmart has a 32inch sanyo for around $500. which has a few options you might find very useful that the rca might not have. like hdmi which is the best connection out now. i believe it also upscales analog tv also. 720p is equal to 1080i. your regular tv is 480i right now. 480p is a little better then 480i. remember with most hdtvs your analog cable may look a little grainy. but you will see a big difference in dvds. if you get a hdtv with a dvi or hdmi connection on it use it. but dont buy an expensive brand any brand walmart carries for cheap is fine. the sanyo also has a digital cable tuner built in. and a optical out if you wanna connect it to a surround sound. this tv seems like a good deal if you dont mind the name brand. it even has some options that tvs with bigger price tags dont have.

pwnstar
11-13-2005, 02:30 AM
Thank you all very much for your help, and thanks BB for the tip on the 32inch... I might save up a little extra for that. I hope I can get the money fast... issue is I got a TV for bday and I'm going to exchange it for an hd and pay the difference. Also, how do I know whether a tv supports progressive? And if its 480, 720, etc.

bboncorr
11-13-2005, 03:09 AM
i believe it upconverts everything to 1080i. that is what sanyo states. here is a link with some reviews of the tv. make sure you check both links. seems like people are very happy with there purchase. but remember when you deal with brands like rca, sanyo, ect. you just never know how its gonna hold up over the long haul. i had a samatron tv a while back and it lasted me over 4 years and now my cousin owns it and it works great. you may even be able to get local hd channels without paying extra from your cable provider if they are available there like they are here. comcast.

http://www.epinions.com/Sanyo_HT32744_Direct_View_Television


http://www.rochesterhdtv.com/viewtopic.php?t=356

RSawdey
11-13-2005, 12:46 PM
I must REALLY disrecommend any 4:3 display... all HDTV is widescreen. These 4:3 CRTs do a really poor job of showing HDTV, and are a PITA to use.

Also, all CRT based consumer HDTVs are interlaced... 1080i/30 native. These CAN'T display 720p, but must convert to 1080i to display (adding interlacing artifacts, halving framerate).

I'd suggest you look at LCDs... ones 30" start at about $1000, smaller are less.

bboncorr
11-13-2005, 01:29 PM
he says hes looking for a cheap hdtv. there are no widescreen sets that are in the price range he is looking into buying. i own a 32 inch hd set and it works just fine. 1080i is not much different then 720p so you will not see any differance. your dvds will look great and your hd channels will look great also. everyone know crt televisions have the best picture of all the tvs available now. look when a lcd,dlp,and plasma tvs are reviwed. the reviewer will always compare the black levels to what crt based tvs can produce. if you can get the extra cake though then fo for the widescreen but if not and you gotta turn in the tv soon go for the one i recomended it sounds like a good deal. keep us updated on your decision.

pwnstar
11-14-2005, 06:06 PM
I had originally had my heart set on a 28" widescreen HD, which is $497 at WM I think. If I can get the money soon, I'll definitely get that, but if not, I'll have to settle. WM STILL does not have the RCA I'm trying to get... and they say I can't buy the display, so I might have to start scrounging around for cash. If I can't get the money I may end up getting stuck with my current TV, nothing wrong with it at all, but I really want HD. Thanks guys.

borromini
11-14-2005, 11:53 PM
If it doesn't kill you, just wait and save a bit more and get your cost closer to $800. That will allow you to have more choices.

pwnstar
11-15-2005, 04:08 AM
I've been considering that too. I'm mainly wanting HD for PS3 (I could really care less about the xbox threesh***y). Which means I do have plenty of time to wait. It will be hard to resist the urge to get a decent car, or get an awesome TV. Now on to yet another question... I tried the THX optimizer, and everything works... but my screen is off center... a small portion on the left side is cut off, is there any way to fix this? I can't find any adjustment for it on my TV or in the manual. I know I can change it on some games, but how do I do it for movies or just get it to stay centered? Or do I just have to deal with it?

doggie
11-15-2005, 05:07 AM
http://www.outlet.philips.com/b2c_redesign/catalog/updateItems.do?shop=OUTLET

Some dirt-cheap refurbed HDTV sets.

bboncorr
11-15-2005, 12:41 PM
dont know if you heard but the ps3 may not hit the U.S. till nov. 06-jan 07. sony went on record and showed a timeline of what they were planning from the day the 360 launches till the ps3 comes. and the timeling ended december 2006. they also showed how they would rerelease the ps2 again. with a new design. then release a new hand held. didnt they just release the psp. guess it didnt do as well as they thought. then a new internet service and a blue-ray dvd player. man i hope this info is wrong. dam you sony.