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40-50" LCD's with QAM?

joeintv
09-13-2012, 01:42 AM
Hi All,

I tried a search here, but came up with 0 results.

I am looking for an LCD over 50" and one in the 40" range that has a QAM tuner. I been banging my head against the wall looking up specs everywhere on LCD's but just can't seem to find anything in the 50" and 40" range with QAM. All note ATSC/NTSC, but not QAM.

Any recommendations for LCD's with QAM in the sizes mentioned appreciated. Older or new... doesn't matter as I am also searching cragslist trying to stay within a budget of under 900 for the 50 and around 400 for the 40.

Also, is it possible that many of the LCD's which have ATSC/NTSC might also have QAM but for some reason the manufacturer omitted it from their specs page?

Thanks in advance for any input.... (no pun intended).. :)

ddeerrff
09-13-2012, 12:09 PM
I'm not aware of any TV's that do not include a QAM tuner. Got a specific model number in mind?

joeintv
09-13-2012, 03:10 PM
I'm not aware of any TV's that do not include a QAM tuner. Got a specific model number in mind?

Hi ddeerrff,

Thanks for your reply.

I been searching everything from newegg to Tiger to Best Buy to Walmart sites, it appears LG is basically the only one who notes QAM in their specs.... in the size range I am looking for. However the LG models are pricey. Some Manufacturers do not even note a tuner spec on their specs page (not even NTSC/ATSC) such as Toshiba.

Some manufacturers only advertise NTSC/ATSC such as Vizio, Sony, Samsung, Phillips... but not sure if they have QAM as well as it is not listed in their specs.

It's been awhile since i bought my last HDTV/LCD... and now I am in the market to furnish other rooms in the house with LCD's (or maybe even LED's).. but need a TV with QAM tuner as we really don't need all the channels but basic cable... and it would be a waste to rent a STB for every room.


For those wondering why I ask this question, it is because if you have cable (Charter, Comcast.. etc), you can pick up the major networks in HD without a Set-Top Box (STB) if the TV has a QAM tuner. Just plug in the coax directly to the back of the TV and scan channels....A TV with a QAM tuner will pick up the HD channels... (not all of them though... just major networks.. ABC, NBC, CBS... Fox... etc).. and no... it's not illegal..

For the others reading, you already knew that... :)

I'm just wondering (hoping) that someone here understands exactly what I am looking for that has more current knowledge of the HDTV market than i do... and recommends some specific models... thanks again.

ddeerrff
09-13-2012, 04:03 PM
Just grabbed this one at random (I've got the LN46A630 - a few years old)
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/LN46D630M3FXZA-specs

Look near the bottom it lists tuners ATSC/Clear QAM. I'm surprised to not see NTSC listed, but they *may* be phasing those out. I think if you dig deep enough, you will find that anything that calls itself a TV will have at least built in ATSC and QAM tuner.

DoctorCAD
09-13-2012, 04:20 PM
You might check if your cable company has gone to all digital, QAM will go away eventually.

joeintv
09-13-2012, 05:36 PM
You might check if your cable company has gone to all digital, QAM will go away eventually.

QAM is a tuner for digital cable... it is relatively new and won't go away for quite some time...

Google wiki QAM (can't post links here yet)

You may be confusing QAM with NTSC....


@ddeerrff -

Yeah.. that's nice... i'll be checking that out... thanks my new friend...

Any other recommendations appreciated... the more the merrier... :)

Need something above a 50 inch too...

I been digging for days... many of the manufacturers/models do not list QAM in their specs. Hence the reason i am here...

rbinck
09-13-2012, 05:53 PM
I think most all HDTV have QAM tuners these days. The Sharp Aquos have QAM tuners.

joeintv
09-13-2012, 06:13 PM
I think most all HDTV have QAM tuners these days.

Thanks for your reply rbinck.

Yeah... that seems to be the consensus.... and it would make sense to have them all QAM compatible at this time... again, i am just now getting back into the market... but for some reason many of the manufacturers/models i have been digging through the past few days do not list QAM in their specs... many do not even list NTSC/ATSC... some just say "HDTV" under their tuner specs.. lol

I would think that QAM would be one of the first things manufacturers would want to list as a selling point...?

The technology for HD is pretty much solid at this point (Contrast Ratios.. response time.. viewing angle... etc) across all manufacturers/models... so the first thing I been looking for is the built in tuners....

DoctorCAD
09-13-2012, 07:36 PM
QAM has been around a long time and it will go away when cable companies go to digital boxes only. You will NEED a box some day.

joeintv
09-19-2012, 03:30 PM
Thank you all for your replies.

Just an update...

As rbinck pointed out, most if not all HDTV's nowadays do have QAM tuners. If you see a TV in Best Buy (or similar) broadcasting a local channel in HD, it has a QAM Tuner... as the TV's you are looking at on the walls and stands have direct coax connections and are not served by a set-top-box for each individual TV.

We went with the Insignia 55 and a LG 42.. .both from Best Buy.. both awesome TV's... and came in well under budget.

Thanks again to all for the help...

Regards...

ddeerrff
09-19-2012, 08:42 PM
Enjoy your new toys!