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Panasonic TC-P42S30 vs TC-P42ST30

chefshaun
07-14-2011, 08:41 PM
I'm looking to go from my current LCD to a plasma but have read some mixed reviews on the ST30 and S30. So I had a few questions:

1) Is the only difference the 3D? If it is I don't care to have 3D for the extra $.

2) Are there other brands you suggest that match up in price and quality? I had my heart set on Panasonic, but reading some posts, there seems to be some quality issues and concerns with the Panasonics as of late.

3) Does the anti glare coating affect the quality of picture?

Your input is greatly appreciated. I'm hoping to make my decision in the next couple of days. Thank you.

RandyWalters
07-15-2011, 07:20 AM
I'm looking to go from my current LCD to a plasma but have read some mixed reviews on the ST30 and S30. The ST30 is widely regarded by experts as the best bang for the buck of any flat panel TV. Dunno what mixed reviews you're seeing about the ST30. The S30 on the other hand is a bit of a junker - it's a big step down in picture quality from the ST30.


1) Is the only difference the 3D? If it is I don't care to have 3D for the extra $.No, they are two completely different TVs. Even when you completely ignore the lack of 3D capability, the S30 is a lower-performing entry level model and is not nearly in the same league as the ST30.

The ST30 has a much better plasma panel - it's the same core "NeoPlasma" panel as used in their high-end GT30 and VT30. The ST30 has deeper blacks, better colors, better processing, more moving lines of resolution, a Pro Settings menu with much more extensive picture adjustments, and an excellent Anti-Reflective Filter (same as used on the GT30). The fact that it also does 3D is only icing on the cake - it's just another feature (that i would never ever use myself).

The ONLY advantage the S30 has over the ST30 is a lower price - and even then i always recommend you skip the S30 and spend the extra few hundred dollars and get the much better ST30 - even if it means you have to wait to save up more money. These two TVs are not in the same league.


2) Are there other brands you suggest that match up in price and quality? I had my heart set on Panasonic, but reading some posts, there seems to be some quality issues and concerns with the Panasonics as of late.Panasonic Plasmas are the most reliable TV you can buy. Their failure rate is around 2%, where it's closest competitor is rated at 4%. Their build quality is better than their competition. Their customer service is better than any of their competitors. You're going to find quality issues with every brand, but less so with Panasonic.


3) Does the anti glare coating affect the quality of picture?Not on the ST30/GT30/VT30 series. It actually improves picture quality. The S30 on the other hand has a weird AR coating that refracts light in the screen much differently and i don't like it.

chefshaun
07-15-2011, 05:02 PM
Thanks for the response and info. If I'm considering the ST30, is there another brand that might be comparable with a lesser price tag? Maybe one without the 3D since I wouldn't use it anyway.

Anyone else share the same or have a different opinion on the ST30 vs the S30?

Thanks again.

ImRizzo
07-15-2011, 05:24 PM
Thanks for the response and info. If I'm considering the ST30, is there another brand that might be comparable with a lesser price tag? Maybe one without the 3D since I wouldn't use it anyway.

Anyone else share the same or have a different opinion on the ST30 vs the S30?

Thanks again.

It appears all the manufacturers have taken the same road, they have all gone balls to the wall on their 3D panels including the best PQ so in order to get the best in PQ you must also go for the 3D. I just experienced the same thing with my new LED panel. Top of the Line electronic include 3D.

chefshaun
07-15-2011, 11:21 PM
Last chance, anyone else have an opinion on the ST30, S30, or any other recommendations? I'm hoping to get the TV on Sunday.

Thanks again for the suggestions.

RandyWalters
07-16-2011, 08:41 AM
Thanks for the response and info. If I'm considering the ST30, is there another brand that might be comparable with a lesser price tag? Maybe one without the 3D since I wouldn't use it anyway.All of the non-3D TVs are entry level models and will have inferior regular 2D picture quality compared to the mid-to-high-end models (which all have 3D capability).

I have zero interest in 3D, but if i were buying a TV today it would definitely be a model that has 3D to get the much better regular HD picture quality, even though i'll never use the 3D feature. The ST30 is the minimum Panasonic model that i would own. Nothing lower.

Aside from the Panny ST30, there is also the Samsung D6500 series, and the next step down would be their D550 series (but the D550 is very reflective).

chefshaun
07-16-2011, 06:17 PM
Looks like I'll be shelling out the extra $150....thanks for the advice.

ImRizzo
07-16-2011, 06:22 PM
Looks like I'll be shelling out the extra $150....thanks for the advice.

You'll be happy you did. That $150 bought you a lot more PQ.

Loves2Watch
07-17-2011, 08:03 AM
My neighbor just purchased a S30 and it looks very good. Will you notice the difference between the S30 and the ST30, maybe, maybe not. Unless you are a video purist I doubt you could see any difference between the two. And as for the comment about the S30 being a junker, that is NOT the case.

RandyWalters
07-18-2011, 07:01 PM
My neighbor just purchased a S30 and it looks very good. Will you notice the difference between the S30 and the ST30, maybe, maybe not. Unless you are a video purist I doubt you could see any difference between the two. Actually the difference to me is profound, and i'm only a mild purist. But i also believe the difference is big enough that a non-purist would notice the improvement in most PQ categories if these two models were near enough to compare with one another.


And as for the comment about the S30 being a junker, that is NOT the case.Well i did say it was a "bit of" a junker, but i certainly don't consider it a complete junker. ;)

It does look good, but my point is that the ST30 is a lot better TV for only a little bit more money - and to me that difference is totally worth the extra cost.

Loves2Watch
07-19-2011, 06:33 AM
Actually the difference to me is profound, and i'm only a mild purist. But i also believe the difference is big enough that a non-purist would notice the improvement in most PQ categories if these two models were near enough to compare with one another.


Well i did say it was a "bit of" a junker, but i certainly don't consider it a complete junker. ;)

It does look good, but my point is that the ST30 is a lot better TV for only a little bit more money - and to me that difference is totally worth the extra cost.

You already made those points. I was speaking to the OP. Once in the home I doubt the OP would notice any difference as the S30 is a nice display and less expensive.

CalypsoBean
07-19-2011, 12:24 PM
You already made those points. I was speaking to the OP. Once in the home I doubt the OP would notice any difference as the S30 is a nice display and less expensive.

i am not an enthusiasts by far, but the S30's i saw on display during the month or so i was shopping for my tv (went with a GT25) were not impressive at all in terms of PQ.