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Recommend me a good LED/LCD 65 incher?

Mobious
06-07-2011, 08:29 AM
Hey guys, I am a proud owner of a Panny VT25, amazing TV. Have never seen such awesome performance out of a set before but I am planning on doing a gaming room/home theater setup. And although I have gamed a many hours on my Panny, IR is just too annoying to handle. I could be playing for 4 hours and then suddenly get some HUD elements stuck there for days or so.

So the plan is to keep the VT25 in my room and watch movies/tv shows on it from my XBMC box while having a separate room with a 65 incher (not plasma). I want something my buddies and I can game on for hours and hours, and is still pretty good for watching movies and whatnot. I know its not realistic to expect the same performance of black levels and color reproduction from a Plasma on a LED/LCD but if you could recommend me something that comes quite close that would be awesome! I don't care about 3D and it must be anywhere between 55 to 65 inches as my experience with 50 inches makes it obvious to me that its too small for the room I am going to be working with. Thanks guys!

Loves2Watch
06-07-2011, 09:23 AM
The only model I would recommend is the new Sony HX929 which will give similar performance of the plasma and has the absolute best to offer in a local dimming LED lit LCD panel. I don't believe anything else would even begin to compare or even come close after watching/using your Panasonic plasma.

Mobious
06-07-2011, 01:03 PM
So far the only decent sony model they seem to have in stock in my country is the NX-720. The major difference that I am seeing is this one is edge-lit with local dimming while the 929 (known as the 925 in my region) has back-lit LED's? Or am I mistaken on that point? Also the 400 motion flow vs the 200 motion flow (doesn't really matter to me, but the edge-lit difference seems like it might make a huge difference in terms of black levels right?)

ImRizzo
06-07-2011, 02:07 PM
So far the only decent sony model they seem to have in stock in my country is the NX-720. The major difference that I am seeing is this one is edge-lit with local dimming while the 929 (known as the 925 in my region) has back-lit LED's? Or am I mistaken on that point? Also the 400 motion flow vs the 200 motion flow (doesn't really matter to me, but the edge-lit difference seems like it might make a huge difference in terms of black levels right?)

If your doing LED, and especially in the 60-65" range, you would be throwing your money away on anything LED edge-lit. And Full Array LED is the only way to get good imagery, evenly lit. and with that said, Also consider the edge-lit flashlighting effects, which inherently afflect this size catagory.Too much distance for that edgelit bulb to project in equal brilliance from edge to center without some loss of brightness diminishing, no ?

FWIW
IMO, you may want to consider Plasma better price. I personally prefer LED Tech. but from PQ, perspective if you can't go for the Big $$$ a Hi-End LED full arry in 60 -65", then take a look at the panny's VT30 line you won't be disappointed. As far as frt screen reflectiveness The High-end LED full array now also have these same glossy screens to improve PQ gains in contrast & color-depth.

Just food for thought............big decision, huh?

Mobious
06-07-2011, 05:27 PM
Yeah it is quite a big decision, we don't have much to work with in my country and it hard to find proper sets. I would definitely go for another plasma if gaming was out of the question but it's not, like I said before I own a VT25 and it's an amazing set but with long hours of gaming IR gets really annoying and somewhat hard to remove. So this time around it will have to be an LED.

I contacted our Sony dealership here and they said they dont know when the 925's (929's) will be available. Is there any other set out there that has a proper backlit display? I have heard nothing but bad reviews in regards to samsungs, and toshibas are very hard to find here. LG might be a viable option but their sets are pretty old here and not up to date. So what do you think guys?

ImRizzo
06-07-2011, 06:52 PM
Yeah it is quite a big decision, we don't have much to work with in my country and it hard to find proper sets. I would definitely go for another plasma if gaming was out of the question but it's not, like I said before I own a VT25 and it's an amazing set but with long hours of gaming IR gets really annoying and somewhat hard to remove. So this time around it will have to be an LED.

I contacted our Sony dealership here and they said they dont know when the 925's (929's) will be available. Is there any other set out there that has a proper backlit display? I have heard nothing but bad reviews in regards to samsungs, and toshibas are very hard to find here. LG might be a viable option but their sets are pretty old here and not up to date. So what do you think guys?

I'm awaiting my XBR46HX929 to be del'd 6/14.

Mobious
06-08-2011, 02:42 AM
I'm awaiting my XBR46HX929 to be del'd 6/14.

Lucky, well they are repainting the new room, so if they don't get the 925 in stock here by the end of 2 weeks I might just go ahead and get the NH720 60 incher.

Loves2Watch
06-08-2011, 03:23 AM
Lucky, well they are repainting the new room, so if they don't get the 925 in stock here by the end of 2 weeks I might just go ahead and get the NH720 60 incher.

The NH720 doesn't come close in comparison.

ImRizzo
06-08-2011, 08:32 AM
Lucky, well they are repainting the new room, so if they don't get the 925 in stock here by the end of 2 weeks I might just go ahead and get the NH720 60 incher.

a Mistake !

AshleyG35
06-08-2011, 10:00 AM
I would recommend Samsung I think they make a 65

Loves2Watch
06-08-2011, 11:21 AM
I would recommend Samsung I think they make a 65

Not even on the same playing field and they do not use local dimming so have all sorts of negative attributes like flashlighting, uneven brightness and so on.

Mobious
06-08-2011, 02:57 PM
Alright guys your definitely right I am not wasting my money on an NH720. I found a HX925 (HX929) but not locally, I am going to have to go buy it from a country near by (UAE, Dubai). Now there is a positive and a negative with this decision.

Positive, its much cheaper than the NH720 here, 55" is around 3574 USD in Dubai while the NH720 60" is around 5470 USD over here in Kuwait (yeah everything electronic is overpriced here).

Negative, warranty is void once it leaves the country, their sony warranty isn't covered here which brings the question, are the sets prone to any defects that I should know about?

TwoPlusTwo
06-08-2011, 03:28 PM
Can you buy a 3rd party warranty where you live? That would solve that issue.

ImRizzo
06-08-2011, 03:29 PM
Alright guys your definitely right I am not wasting my money on an NH720. I found a HX925 (HX929) but not locally, I am going to have to go buy it from a country near by (UAE, Dubai). Now there is a positive and a negative with this decision.

Positive, its much cheaper than the NH720 here, 55" is around 3574 USD in Dubai while the NH720 60" is around 5470 USD over here in Kuwait (yeah everything electronic is overpriced here).

Negative, warranty is void once it leaves the country, their sony warranty isn't covered here which brings the question, are the sets prone to any defects that I should know about?

There have been no reports of FAIL yet and hopefully there won't be.

Loves2Watch
06-08-2011, 03:36 PM
Can you buy a 3rd party warranty where you live? That would solve that issue.

That's what I would recommend...

Mobious
06-08-2011, 03:51 PM
That's what I would recommend...

Their pretty uptight here, I can ask but I highley doubt they will let me purchase any warranty for it over here as they don't even have them in stock yet.

Loves2Watch
06-08-2011, 04:06 PM
Their pretty uptight here, I can ask but I highley doubt they will let me purchase any warranty for it over here as they don't even have them in stock yet.

Look for something online like Square Trade or Mack Warranty or something similar...

Mobious
06-08-2011, 04:17 PM
Look for something online like Square Trade or Mack Warranty or something similar...

I don't live in a country where companies like that would cover me. So those won't work for me. I think I am just gonna wing it and hope for the best. The HX925 is too hard to pass up at that price. If it ever gets released here in Kuwait I am sure it would be as overpriced as the NH720.

ImRizzo
06-08-2011, 05:19 PM
I don't live in a country where companies like that would cover me. So those won't work for me. I think I am just gonna wing it and hope for the best. The HX925 is too hard to pass up at that price. If it ever gets released here in Kuwait I am sure it would be as overpriced as the NH720.

you should consider SONY's Extended Warr. may be costly but at least they will be required to service it, and considering repair facilities are not as readily available. So if Sony offers it, I would bite the bullet and buyit.
I'm not an EX-Warr kinda guy I just been lucky but then again I've always went for their top tier. Cost more, but then you get a whole lot in return, if ya want PK and that's what HD is all about. Ya gotta pay for it. But careful research will find deals like mine and maybe in the 55" sets too. I don't think there's gonna be Cheap deals for the 65" which is a yet unproven displays no reviews up yet ?? I don't know if this is even available where you are...?

Mobious
06-09-2011, 02:59 AM
you should consider SONY's Extended Warr. may be costly but at least they will be required to service it, and considering repair facilities are not as readily available. So if Sony offers it, I would bite the bullet and buyit.
I'm not an EX-Warr kinda guy I just been lucky but then again I've always went for their top tier. Cost more, but then you get a whole lot in return, if ya want PK and that's what HD is all about. Ya gotta pay for it. But careful research will find deals like mine and maybe in the 55" sets too. I don't think there's gonna be Cheap deals for the 65" which is a yet unproven displays no reviews up yet ?? I don't know if this is even available where you are...?

Nope the 65 incher isn't available, said to come out in September here. I called Sony and asked if I can purchase additional warranty if I import the set and they said no. I guess I will just wait until the 55" HX becomes available here. Thanks for all the help guys I couldn't have done it without you. ImRizzo I expect a decent review of the set from you ;) Something to hold me off while I wait.

Mobious
06-15-2011, 05:18 AM
Sorry to bump this thread guys but I have good news, the HDTV will be here in 2 weeks! Now what should I be looking for in terms of defects? I only have 3 days to return it for a full replacement, after that its repair and not replacements. I heard about creases but I have no idea what they are and how to find them, I know about dead pixels and I know how to look for those. What else can an LED like this one suffer from that would be considered a defect?

Loves2Watch
06-15-2011, 09:09 AM
Sorry to bump this thread guys but I have good news, the HDTV will be here in 2 weeks! Now what should I be looking for in terms of defects? I only have 3 days to return it for a full replacement, after that its repair and not replacements. I heard about creases but I have no idea what they are and how to find them, I know about dead pixels and I know how to look for those. What else can an LED like this one suffer from that would be considered a defect?

Halos around bright objects, flashlighting (once you see it you will easily identify the anomaly) uneven lighting, bright spots, dark spots. That pretty much covers it...Basically anything that makes the display not look uniform across the entire panel. Check it with as many sources as you can (Blu-ray player, cable, satellite, DVD and the like).

Hope this helps.

Mobious
06-15-2011, 02:49 PM
Halos around bright objects, flashlighting (once you see it you will easily identify the anomaly) uneven lighting, bright spots, dark spots. That pretty much covers it...Basically anything that makes the display not look uniform across the entire panel. Check it with as many sources as you can (Blu-ray player, cable, satellite, DVD and the like).

Hope this helps.

That helps a lot but has me a bit worried now. I thought since this led is full array backlit, that flashlight, bright spots, uneven lighting, are non-existent?

Loves2Watch
06-15-2011, 04:00 PM
That helps a lot but has me a bit worried now. I thought since this led is full array backlit, that flashlight, bright spots, uneven lighting, are non-existent?

I doubt you will have any problems but you did ask what to look for...

Mobious
06-15-2011, 04:10 PM
I doubt you will have any problems but you did ask what to look for...

Lol that's true, but I thought there were things that are specific to the backlit LED's in comparison to the edge lit ones, the issues you listed are issues I thought were only common to edge lit LED HDTV's, I guess I was wrong. Anyways thanks for the reply buddy :D

Loves2Watch
06-15-2011, 05:47 PM
Lol that's true, but I thought there were things that are specific to the backlit LED's in comparison to the edge lit ones, the issues you listed are issues I thought were only common to edge lit LED HDTV's, I guess I was wrong. Anyways thanks for the reply buddy :D

The things I listed are things to watch out for in LCD displays in general. If it were plasma the issues would be different. All technologies have their strong and weak points but if we as consumers know what to look for then we can spot something before it becomes more problematic and do something about it before it's too late...

Mobious
06-15-2011, 06:32 PM
The things I listed are things to watch out for in LCD displays in general. If it were plasma the issues would be different. All technologies have their strong and weak points but if we as consumers know what to look for then we can spot something before it becomes more problematic and do something about it before it's too late...

Ah I see. Well I will keep my eye out for all the issues you listed. I can only hope my set is flawless lol. Again thanks for the input.