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Samsung UN46C6300 vs. Samsung LN46C630K1F

Sithtiger
03-28-2011, 02:40 AM
I was wondering if there was a real difference between the LCD UN46C6300 LED LCD vs the Samsung LN46C630K1F?

I have the LCD Sammy 630 and I like it except the smoothness or lack of bothers me slightly vs the 27 inch CRT Sony Wega that we have. If I turn AMP on and customize it where it looks good without the SOE, then it looks better, but I get some stuttering or judder effect (however you like to call them) every so often.

Does the LED lit Sammy C6300 do away with this? Is it smoother with and without the AMP enabled and if the AMP is enabled, does it still get stuttering like the 630 does?

neoshredder27
03-28-2011, 11:43 AM
If you are looking for smoothness, Plasma is probably the way to go. Or maybe check out an LED with local dimming. http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-XVT473SV-47-inch-TruLED-Internet/dp/B003GDHI0I/ref=sr_1_2?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1301334136&sr=1-2

zxme
03-28-2011, 03:22 PM
Did you turn the Judder down?

Sithtiger
03-29-2011, 12:36 AM
If you are looking for smoothness, Plasma is probably the way to go. Or maybe check out an LED with local dimming. http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-XVT473SV-47-inch-TruLED-Internet/dp/B003GDHI0I/ref=sr_1_2?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1301334136&sr=1-2

Thanks, I'll look into it. Do you know if the Sammy LED TV have stuttering with AMP on?

Sithtiger
03-29-2011, 12:37 AM
Did you turn the Judder down?

Yup and it still does it unless I turn it completely off. Does yours have judder and what type of set do you have?

Sithtiger
03-29-2011, 12:44 AM
If you are looking for smoothness, Plasma is probably the way to go. Or maybe check out an LED with local dimming. http://www.amazon.com/VIZIO-XVT473SV-47-inch-TruLED-Internet/dp/B003GDHI0I/ref=sr_1_2?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1301334136&sr=1-2

I'm not a big plasma fan anymore. I used to be until I bought a Sammy plasma and it had bad IR and some dead pixels. So I took it back, got another and it too had the same problems. I was done after that. Like someone else said (regarding break-in and IR) I'd rather watch TV than babysit it. I do like the picture on plasmas, but the IR, it's just too much for me. That is, if you can find one without any dead pixels. If it wasn't for that and the IR, I would have been perfectly happy with the plasma.

zxme
03-29-2011, 01:51 PM
Yup and it still does it unless I turn it completely off. Does yours have judder and what type of set do you have?

the LN 630..

Sithtiger
03-30-2011, 12:17 AM
the LN 630..

Yeah, it seems like normal LCD's have better PQ unless you get a medium or high level LED panel.

zxme
04-04-2011, 02:49 PM
Yeah, it seems like normal LCD's have better PQ unless you get a medium or high level LED panel.

Auto motion off or on?
It does bother me a little but i dont think returning it and spending 300.00 more is what im going to do. Pic is nice though.

Sithtiger
04-04-2011, 10:29 PM
Auto motion off or on?
It does bother me a little but i dont think returning it and spending 300.00 more is what im going to do. Pic is nice though.

I have automotion off. I've also noticed on some programs, there is still a bit of a stutter. I have to preface this, my son watches Full House (sigh).....anyway I've noticed a bit of a stutter on Full House, but it's not HD even though the station it's on is HD. I just hope it's not something that's going to continue or happens allot. I also notice it on Netflix too... Has anyone noticed a stutter here or there on Netflix? It usually happens when it's changing a scene or something

samsungGeek
04-05-2011, 12:55 PM
im new to this board, but what is "IR"

Sithtiger
04-06-2011, 02:17 AM
im new to this board, but what is "IR"

It stands for Image Retention. It's when you have a TV (mostly Plasmas but it is possible for this to happen to any type of set) has a static image (the same image) that stays on the screen for too long. When you do switch to another channel or input, you can still see a ghost image that was on there before.

Loves2Watch
04-06-2011, 04:03 AM
I'm not a big plasma fan anymore. I used to be until I bought a Sammy plasma and it had bad IR and some dead pixels. So I took it back, got another and it too had the same problems. I was done after that. Like someone else said (regarding break-in and IR) I'd rather watch TV than babysit it. I do like the picture on plasmas, but the IR, it's just too much for me. That is, if you can find one without any dead pixels. If it wasn't for that and the IR, I would have been perfectly happy with the plasma.

Don't let your problem with a Samsung plasma sour you, try a Panasonic plasma, they have much less problems with IR.

Sithtiger
04-07-2011, 01:19 AM
Don't let your problem with a Samsung plasma sour you, try a Panasonic plasma, they have much less problems with IR.

Thanks to you, I did a quick look see around and saw this new Panasonic. Panasonic TC-P50S30 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+50%22+Class+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Plasma+HDTV/2120201.p?skuId=2120201&id=1218310004114#tabbed-customerreviews

I'm gonna give it a try. I have 3 days left before I cannot return my TV. I'm gonna see how the IR is with the Panasonic and see if it has any dead pixels. Having dead pixels is my biggest gripe that I had with the Samsing Plasma, followed by the IR. I had two Samsung Plamas and they both had dead pixels along with IR. although the second one's IR problems wasn't as bad as the first, but it was still here. I'm starting to think that line of Plasmas was just bad or something because I hear that having dead pixels in plasmas is rare Well, if that's true then I will hopefully be OK with the plasma

neoshredder27
04-07-2011, 11:52 AM
Thanks to you, I did a quick look see around and saw this new Panasonic. Panasonic TC-P50S30 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+50%22+Class+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Plasma+HDTV/2120201.p?skuId=2120201&id=1218310004114#tabbed-customerreviews

I'm gonna give it a try. I have 3 days left before I cannot return my TV. I'm gonna see how the IR is with the Panasonic and see if it has any dead pixels. Having dead pixels is my biggest gripe that I had with the Samsing Plasma, followed by the IR. I had two Samsung Plamas and they both had dead pixels along with IR. although the second one's IR problems wasn't as bad as the first, but it was still here. I'm starting to think that line of Plasmas was just bad or something because I hear that having dead pixels in plasmas is rare Well, if that's true then I will hopefully be OK with the plasma
ST30 is much better I've heard. Don't ask me why they made the S30 much weaker than the ST30 but that's the report I've heard. ST30 is looking to be this years bang for the buck I've heard from avsforum.

ImRizzo
04-07-2011, 11:58 AM
The T designation in the model numbers refer to 3D models and Panasonic put all their eggs in the 3D basket, to promote buyers interest.

zxme
04-07-2011, 06:30 PM
I put my sammy 46 LCD auto motion on clear and seems pretty good. For 790.00 on Amazon i dont think i can complain.

Sithtiger
04-07-2011, 11:25 PM
I put my sammy 46 LCD auto motion on clear and seems pretty good. For 790.00 on Amazon i dont think i can complain.

Clear is the best option if you're gonna run AMP. The thing is sometimes it will run OK for a while but there will be some stuttering too. Does it stutter on Smooth for you? Try it on a variety of shows too. If you have Netflix, try it there as well. Report back your results. I'm curious as to see if my TV is just bad or this is normal for it.

Tomorrow I'm getting the Panasonic Plasma.

zxme
04-08-2011, 06:08 PM
Clear is the best option if you're gonna run AMP. The thing is sometimes it will run OK for a while but there will be some stuttering too. Does it stutter on Smooth for you? Try it on a variety of shows too. If you have Netflix, try it there as well. Report back your results. I'm curious as to see if my TV is just bad or this is normal for it.

Tomorrow I'm getting the Panasonic Plasma.

It did shutter a couple times but i cant complain. My panasonic plasma in the basement is flawless though. Great choice. I dont netflix , just bluray

Sithtiger
04-09-2011, 05:15 AM
It did shutter a couple times but i cant complain. My panasonic plasma in the basement is flawless though. Great choice. I dont netflix , just bluray

OK, well tomorrow is my last day to return my TV and I'm gonna do it now. I was gonna do it yesterday but I found out the new Plasma doesn't have an analog in and I use that at night to watch TV so I can connect my headphones to the shelf stereo. The new S30 Plasma only has an optical in or is it out.....always get the two confused. Anyway I think I'm gonna go ahead and get it and just not be able to watch TV after my wife goes to bed. It sucks but the picture on the plasma is superior than LCD. I don't like the lag with the LCD has.....ya know with the motion. Even though the LCD I have is 120Hz, it's still not the same as the Plasma. I'm just afraid the Plasma is gonna have dead pixels on it, but I'm gonna check it before I leave the store. If it does, I'll just keep the LCD.

zxme
04-09-2011, 12:01 PM
OK, well tomorrow is my last day to return my TV and I'm gonna do it now. I was gonna do it yesterday but I found out the new Plasma doesn't have an analog in and I use that at night to watch TV so I can connect my headphones to the shelf stereo. The new S30 Plasma only has an optical in or is it out.....always get the two confused. Anyway I think I'm gonna go ahead and get it and just not be able to watch TV after my wife goes to bed. It sucks but the picture on the plasma is superior than LCD. I don't like the lag with the LCD has.....ya know with the motion. Even though the LCD I have is 120Hz, it's still not the same as the Plasma. I'm just afraid the Plasma is gonna have dead pixels on it, but I'm gonna check it before I leave the store. If it does, I'll just keep the LCD.

I have had 3 panasonic plasmas and never had a dead pixel. sold 2 just to upgrade every 2 yrs..yea i'm crazy..

Sithtiger
04-10-2011, 04:42 AM
I have had 3 panasonic plasmas and never had a dead pixel. sold 2 just to upgrade every 2 yrs..yea i'm crazy..

Well unfortunately I wasn't able to get the Panasonic Plasma. I was getting ready to go and then I looked at the receipt and I saw that I didn't have enough to get it. The truth is I did but barely and that 'barely' needed to go to bills that needed to be paid, not upgrade a TV to which I already have a good one. I thought I might have to pay a little difference, but not around $80+ or so. There are things we need and one I thing I want to get later this year. I don't make much money and it's possible I might not be able to make it up later in the year.

Yeah the bit of lag that the LCD has bugs me but I'll get used to it eventually. There are many shows and movies where it doesn't show up hardly at all. By the next time I get a TV I'm pretty sure there will be some sort of perfected technology that equals or exceeds CRT tech when comparing smoothness. As fast as Plasma is, I don't even think it's as smooth as CRT!