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LG 50PK750 vs Panasonic 50G25

Neihn
12-19-2010, 02:26 PM
I am hoping you all can give me some insight. I have been debating on these 2 models of TV's but not sure which one to get. Normally I would go to a store and check them out in person but no store within 150 miles of me has either one of these models. So I am basically going off reviews.

The most important factor to me is the picture quality. And it would have some PS3 gaming done it but mostly Blu-ray movies. How much difference does the 24p support of the LG make. Is it worth having?

I am finally throwing my Sony LCD out the door after 2 years of sony's inability to resolve the TV's dropped sound issues. And so far I am leanign towards the LG. But wanted some feedback on the 2 models before I place the order on monday.

EDIT:

1. How far away will you be from the display when watching it? (Be as exact as possible. 6 to 8 feet

2. What TV will it be replacing (i.e. 27" tube TV, etc) (include TV age as well) Sony 40" LCD

3. What will you be watching on it (i.e. 1/3 movies, 1/3 TV shows, 1/6 Sports, 1/6 gaming console, etc) 30% movies, 40% TV shows, 20% gaming console, 10% sports (mainly basketball)

4. Will a computer be connected to use the display as a monitor? If so, what percent of the time? No

5. Will you be getting a Blu-ray player to watch movies and will you be getting any HD service from cable/sat, or will you just be watching SD programming, and an upscaling SD DVD player? Already have PS3 for Blu-Ray and HD service from Dish network.

6. Are you looking for the best in class display, the best bargain display, or best bang for the buck in the middle display? Bang for Buck

7. Are you interested in seeing 3D with the new 3DTVs? If not, what about next year since TVs are usually kept for many years so consider that? No interest in 3D in the forseeable future.

8. What is the room lighting situation? (i.e. can you control the lighting? Can you use light blocking blinds, etc to control it?) Room can be very bright but do have adjustable dimming of lighting and heavy theater style drapes that block the sunlight from the windows.

9. What is your budget range? 1,000

10. Will people be watching at multiple viewing angles or just usually one person sitting directly in the center? Multiple Viewing angles

11. When will most viewing be done on the display (i.e. Daytime or after sunset)? actually about 50/50 day night viewing

Matheney55
12-19-2010, 03:05 PM
G25.. I'll be surprised if anyone on this forum says otherwise

neoshredder27
12-19-2010, 03:44 PM
24p is hardly noticeable imo. I guess some see the difference but I don't. G25 has better black levels, less Image retention, and less reflection. I would get the 50G25.

PhilipC
12-19-2010, 03:49 PM
Go with G25

kharaa
12-19-2010, 03:50 PM
funnily enough the PK750 is worse than the PK550.

The PK550 has one of the best pictures, outside of the C8000, and the VT25.

But for the record, the PK550 beats out the G25 in picture quality, and black levels.

TwoPlusTwo
12-19-2010, 03:55 PM
I would go either Panasonic G25 or LG PK550.

Here are the pros and cons to each:

G25
Pros:
* Excellent picture quality
* Deep rich blacks
* Relatively low input lag for gaming
* Anti-reflective coating

Cons:
* Rising blacks
* Floating blacks
* No 24p

PK550
Pros:
* Excellent picture quality
* Good black levels that do not rise
* Bang for the buck
* 24p

Cons:
* ZERO anti-reflective coating
* Input lag might be a bit high for hardcore gaming
* LG's past reliability track record not as good as Panasonic.

TwoPlusTwo
12-19-2010, 04:00 PM
the PK550 beats out the G25 in ... black levels.

Maybe after the G25 rises but initially I doubt that.

neoshredder27
12-19-2010, 04:04 PM
I would go either Panasonic G25 or LG PK550.

Here are the pros and cons to each:

G25
Pros:
* Excellent picture quality
* Deep rich blacks
* Relatively low input lag for gaming
* Anti-reflective coating

Cons:
* Rising blacks
* Floating blacks
* No 24p

PK550
Pros:
* Excellent picture quality
* Good black levels that do not rise
* Bang for the buck
* 24p

Cons:
* ZERO anti-reflective coating
* Input lag might be a bit high for hardcore gaming
* LG's past reliability track record not as good as Panasonic.
Couldn't have said it better. The cons on the LG sound worse though.

Neihn
12-19-2010, 04:07 PM
funnily enough the PK750 is worse than the PK550.

In digging around on the AVSforums. I had heard the same thing over there. Also was starting to notice the comments about image retention being bad and the input lag is testing higher on the LG model. Tests were showing around 15ms for the G20/G25 but as high as 65ms for the LG.

TwoPlusTwo
12-19-2010, 04:11 PM
In digging around on the AVSforums. I had heard the same thing over there. Also was starting to notice the comments about image retention being bad and the input lag is testing higher on the LG model. Tests were showing around 15ms for the G20/G25 but as high as 65ms for the LG.

If it's going to be used for video games where low input lag is critical (such as Super Street Fighter 4 or Guitar Hero), I would definitely go G25.

All video games are better with low input lag, though.

However, for fighting/music games it's crucial.

Neihn
12-19-2010, 04:26 PM
It wouldnt have anything like guitar hero but it would be playing games like Madden NFL, NBA 2k11, and MLB The Show.

But I really appreciate the input and think I will stick with my original plan of getting the G25. Only reason i started to consider the LG was the style and the reviews it was getting were good to great. But it appears after searching these forums and others that people that actually owned the set were not to pleased with it and tended to prefer the PK550 or the G20/G25 models.

Now I just want to confirm the floating blacks. I understand the difference between the Floating and Rising (rising is where they raise above the original darkness and floating is where the float back and forth between darkness) From my understanding floating blacks only affect the black bars that sometimes appears at the top and bottom of the screen and does not affect the entire screen correct?

If it just affects the black bars at the top and bottom I can live with that as its no where near as annoying as the darkening feature of my Sony before they finally added the ability to shut the stupid thing off. either way I will probably order it and give it a try first anyways.

TwoPlusTwo
12-19-2010, 04:33 PM
Now I just want to confirm the floating blacks. I understand the difference between the Floating and Rising (rising is where they raise above the original darkness and floating is where the float back and forth between darkness) From my understanding floating blacks only affect the black bars that sometimes appears at the top and bottom of the screen and does not affect the entire screen correct?

Floating blacks from my experience are more of an annoyance than severe problem.

On my VT25, it is only mildly irritating and occurs pretty infrequently.

PFC5
12-19-2010, 09:24 PM
funnily enough the PK750 is worse than the PK550.

The PK550 has one of the best pictures, outside of the C8000, and the VT25.

But for the record, the PK550 beats out the G25 in picture quality, and black levels.

The 550 does NOT beat out the G25 in black levels. Care to provide a link on that? I know some reviewers have stated the 550 has great PQ and is better than LG's own higher end models, but all LG plasmas have lighter black levels than any of the 1080p Panasonic or Samsung plasmas. They are rated at MML of 0.030 compared to the 0.014 to darker readings at about 0.007/0.008 on the Panasonic & Samsung plasmas. But the Samsung plasmas to get that low must have the Cinema Smoothing (using 96Hz for 24Fps movies) disabled or else the black levels jump up quite a bit, and then the only way to improve the black levels again is to turn off the TV after disengaging that feature.

For the OP I would suggest the G25 or a Samsung C7000 plasma in his price range not the LGs.

TwoPlusTwo
12-19-2010, 09:45 PM
The 550 does NOT beat out the G25 in black levels. Care to provide a link on that? I know some reviewers have stated the 550 has great PQ and is better than LG's own higher end models, but all LG plasmas have lighter black levels than any of the 1080p Panasonic or Samsung plasmas. They are rated at MML of 0.030

The 0.030 is for LG PX950 3DTV. Pretty sure the PK550 is quite a bit lower.

PFC5
12-19-2010, 10:00 PM
Your right. I think the smaller PK550 does have better blacks than the PX950 so you are correct there. But to get those great blacks on the PK550 you need to spend the money for a pro calibration to achieve those better black levels. With the G25 in THX mode you mostly have them out of the box. The PK550 also has slightly green shaded blacks as well (I have noticed LGs tend to puch green over the years to make them look brighter) and do not forget there is zero anti-glare on the LG PK550 so it needs to be in a lightless room or the reflection will be possibly very distracting. Then there is the increased Image Retention with the PK550 and all LG plasmas. Here is what CHAD said in his review about this:

https://clevelandplasma.com/store/2010_television_reviews/lg_xxpk550
The thing that jumped out at me first is that the PK550 picks up much more glare than the G25. The G25 is probably the best plasma I have ever seen in that regard. With both sets turned off, the PK550’s screen might have been a tiny bit darker with the lights on; but the reflections were much more distracting. The slim PK550 seems to run hotter than the thicker G25, which seems to produce surprisingly little heat. With both sets on but with a black 0% input, the G25 subjectively has slightly darker blacks, and it’s blacks were more neutral in color than the PK550’s slightly greenish glow. The PK550 seemed to be more susceptible to image retention than the G25.

Neihn
12-20-2010, 02:52 PM
I want to thank you all for your input. I ordered direct from Panasonic online and they called me and told me the 50G25 was no longer available and they were going to replace it with the 50GT25 at no additional cost if I was interested. So I am VERY pleased and give the Panasonic Customer service department a A++.

TwoPlusTwo
12-20-2010, 02:57 PM
I want to thank you all for your input. I ordered direct from Panasonic online and they called me and told me the 50G25 was no longer available and they were going to replace it with the 50GT25 at no additional cost if I was interested. So I am VERY pleased and give the Panasonic Customer service department a A++.

:eek:

Wow, that's fantastic! :thumbsup:

PFC5
12-20-2010, 04:35 PM
I agree that is fantastic.

Neihn
12-20-2010, 11:14 PM
Looks like I wasn't alone in the upgrade. Over at AVS there were a few others that posted in the GT20/25 Owners thread they to got the same message about the G25 no longer being available and the free upgrade to the GT25. One thing we all had in common was we all bought it through Panasonic's EPP so not sure if that made a difference or not in our upgrades. But Panasonic Customer service still rocks for the upgrade! :thumbsup: