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Slight shadows on G25

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 04:54 AM
This is my 2nd set. I noticed this on the first. When running slides and when it displays darker blues or reds I can see on each side of the screen faint shadows. It is like the blues or red are darker and they make the lines. The are vertical lines on the right, middle and left. Might be more but they are hard to see, VERY slight. Is this normal? Is this some part of the TV technology?

When I do the scrolling bar I notice it on the white, this is how I first noticed it. Any idea what this is? This is the 2nd set that is doing this. I'm not sure if the marks are in the exact same position.

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 06:03 AM
After messing with settings to bring out the shadows I can now see all of them on slide 19 on default Game Mode the best. It brings out ALL of the lines I'm speaking of. They are a few inches apart running from the top to bottom of the set. They are evenly spaced. Can anyone else test this? Is that normal or should I call for yet another replacement.

Most of the lines are not visible except the ones towards the edges on other colors which is why I said it was faint. But this slight totally highlights them. The color is all uneven.

hdf_bob
11-30-2010, 06:22 AM
I assume you're talking about the standard break-in slides? I ran them for some of the time breaking in my G25 and didn't notice anything, but I honestly wasn't looking for any such thing either.

I also ran the scrolling bar just to see what it was and didn't notice anything, but again, I wasn't really looking for anything. If I remember, I'll try to check out my set tonight and see if anything shows up.

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 06:25 AM
I assume you're talking about the standard break-in slides? I ran them for some of the time breaking in my G25 and didn't notice anything, but I honestly wasn't looking for any such thing either.

I also ran the scrolling bar just to see what it was and didn't notice anything, but again, I wasn't really looking for anything. If I remember, I'll try to check out my set tonight and see if anything shows up.

I first noticed it in Red Dead Redemption in the sky and the scrolling bar. Then I checked it on the slides.

It is obvious on the scrolling bar. It looks like there is dirt some sections as it scrolls. Please let me know. Any idea what it could be?

hdf_bob
11-30-2010, 06:35 AM
I'm not sure, but I do notice the "dirty" or "grainy" appearance on the scrolling bar. I attribute this to the fact that they are probably running the thing with the contrast cranked all the way up to try erasing any possible IR effects. I know that in standard mode, my set looks like crap with a very dirty/grainy appearance, but I've never noticed anything like that in THX mode.

I will try to check the slides like you mentioned, though. When I ran them during my break-in period, I left the set in THX mode with all the settings turned down to 50.

Looking at your comment on another thread, you might want to calm the settings down until you have at least 100 hrs on the set, then try using a calibration disc to tune the settings. If you don't have things set right, it can cause wierdness in different areas of picture quality. For instance, having sharpness too high can actually induce artificial artifacts into the picture.

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 07:08 AM
I'm not sure, but I do notice the "dirty" or "grainy" appearance on the scrolling bar. I attribute this to the fact that they are probably running the thing with the contrast cranked all the way up to try erasing any possible IR effects. I know that in standard mode, my set looks like crap with a very dirty/grainy appearance, but I've never noticed anything like that in THX mode.

I will try to check the slides like you mentioned, though. When I ran them during my break-in period, I left the set in THX mode with all the settings turned down to 50.

Looking at your comment on another thread, you might want to calm the settings down until you have at least 100 hrs on the set, then try using a calibration disc to tune the settings. If you don't have things set right, it can cause wierdness in different areas of picture quality. For instance, having sharpness too high can actually induce artificial artifacts into the picture.

I have the contrast and brightness on 50 and on THX from the start. Should be good right?

I don't mean a grainy look. When I use the scrolling bar only in certain spots vertical lines will be highlighted that look like long vertical lines of dirt. I know what you mean by that dirt or grain effect, this is totally different. This is more like vertical smudges on the screen about an inch or so thick.

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 09:39 AM
I called Panasonic and they wanted me to bring the TV in to be looked at. She said it was the TV since it happens on the DVD input and when using the scrolling bar. Aka process of elimination. She hasn't heard of an issue like this.

I called Amazon to set up a replacement to get the ball rolling even though I would rather not. I have to wait for a call back since I had 2 bad sets back to back. 2 sets in a row, same problem. Could there be something in my room or close by causing damage to the sets?

d6500k
11-30-2010, 10:07 AM
I'd like to see a picture of the anomaly. Perhaps you could post a photo? Only if you can actually see the issue with the snapshot of course.


Doug k

neoshredder27
11-30-2010, 10:13 AM
I called Panasonic and they wanted me to bring the TV in to be looked at. She said it was the TV since it happens on the DVD input and when using the scrolling bar. Aka process of elimination. She hasn't heard of an issue like this.

I called Amazon to set up a replacement to get the ball rolling even though I would rather not. I have to wait for a call back since I had 2 bad sets back to back. 2 sets in a row, same problem. Could there be something in my room or close by causing damage to the sets?
Not sure. Just bad luck I guess. I've had issues in my room as well. But not with Panasonic. And that high whistling sound 5 seconds are the tv is off is normal I found out. lol

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 10:14 AM
I'd like to see a picture of the anomaly. Perhaps you could post a photo? Only if you can actually see the issue with the snapshot of course.


Doug k

I wish I could. I just tried and it produces weird images the tv doesn't even have. If anyone has a g25 they could easily test their scrolling bar and tell me if they notice any dark areas as it scrolls. It is easily noticed. These are the same spots that are darker in any color when I watch the slides.

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 10:15 AM
Not sure. Just bad luck I guess. I've had issues in my room as well. But not with Panasonic. And that high whistling sound 5 seconds are the tv is off is normal I found out. lol

Ya I noticed that whistle too. Do you notice anything when using the scrolling bar? It is obvious on mine with the lights off in the room.

I really don't want a 3rd set..

neoshredder27
11-30-2010, 10:23 AM
Ya I noticed that whistle too. Do you notice anything when using the scrolling bar? It is obvious on mine with the lights off in the room.

I really don't want a 3rd set..
I notice a very slight shadow 2-inches in front and behind the scrolling bar. It follows the bar. I also notice a red light on the sides of the white bar that is about 1/8 of an inch. It also is on the corners of the tv. I'm pretty sure those are normal. Not sure if that is what your tv looks like.

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 10:25 AM
I notice a very slight shadow 2-inches in front and behind the scrolling bar. It follows the bar. I also notice a red a red light on the sides of the white bar that is about 1/8 of an inch. It also is on the corners of the tv. I'm pretty sure those are normal. Not sure if that is what your tv looks like.

No this isn't what I'm talking about. These shadows or better yet discolorations are stationary. As the bar rolls over them you see them. It is grayish on the white, darker blue on blue, darker red on red and etc.

The colors are uneven on the tv when I show the slides. You can see the discoloration (darker color) making up a faint vertical pattern.

Guess I have two bad sets in a row?

Thanks for checking by the way man. Now I know I'm not being picky. I pay for a nice set the colors should be consistent.

neoshredder27
11-30-2010, 10:28 AM
No this isn't what I'm talking about. These shadows or better yet discolorations are stationary. As the bar rolls over them you see them. It is grayish on the white, darker blue on blue, darker red on red and etc.

The colors are uneven on the tv when I show the slides. You can see the discoloration (darker color) making up a faint vertical pattern.

Guess I have two bad sets in a row?

Thanks for checking by the way man. Now I know I'm not being picky. I pay for a nice set the colors should be consistent.
Yeah I would return it. Too bad you have to put it away again. Anyways might as well enjoy it until the new one arrives. Hopefully Amazon doesn't make you pay return shipping after this long.

Guitarwolf
11-30-2010, 10:30 AM
Yeah I would return it. Too bad you have to put it away again. Anyways might as well enjoy it until the new one arrives. Hopefully Amazon doesn't make you pay return shipping after this long.

Ugh, man is this annoying. Yep, boxing it back up, then hoping the new set doesn't have the same issue or another dead pixel, lol. Sometimes I wish I didn't care about these sorts of things.

I will refuse to pay shipping on a defective unit. If anything they should compensate me more for the headache.

Good news is I'm going to finish Mass Effect without the worry of burn in!

Ugh, I have to start the break in over again on the new set..

d6500k
11-30-2010, 09:20 PM
If/when you receive the new display, try just reducing the controls to 50 or so for WL and/or THX mode. Forgo the use of "anti-burn in" protocols and what have you.

I purposely ran mine out of the box with the reduced contrast WL and let whatever happened happen. I calibrated it with less than 10 hours (ISF) and again with about 100-200hrs. Extremely small difference between those two cals.

Personally, as I've noted elsewhere, the use of the Pandora music section in Viera cast, would seem to be enough to eliminate any IR and preclude the use of the aforementioned screen slides or wipe bars. To me, those may actually do more harm than good. Just my observations.

Doug k