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Not satisfied with my plasma, which LCD should I get?

turkletont
04-26-2010, 12:59 AM
Hi, sorry to make a thread but there are a lot of models and brands out there, I'm currently at a loss. I purchased the Panasonic p50g20 plasma but there were a lot of issues with it (even after exchanging it multiple times) so I've decided to exchange it in for an LCD. When I was shopping for a plasma to be honest it was a pretty easy decision. Pretty much everybody said to go with a Panasonic g20 for my budget (1300-1500)

Is there any brand of LCD out there that is currently the "go to" ?

My budget is 1500 and I'm looking for a 46" or bigger. If you need more infos from me plz ask. Thanks for your help

HiDefRev
04-26-2010, 05:12 AM
Very interesting. What was going on with the Panny plasma ?? This is the first that I have heard of anyone having problems with a G20. :what:

clearday
04-26-2010, 07:38 AM
For LCD, go with a Samsung. The CCFL backlight models are a much better value than the LED. The C650 series provides an excellent picture and should be in your price range. Check the link and click on "check for current price" as it's lower. Vann's is an excellent place to buy from:

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/462991610/samsung-ln46c650

SantaPimp27
04-26-2010, 07:51 AM
I like the Sony Bravia's the best for LCD's

jkkyler
04-26-2010, 09:07 AM
Also look at Toshiba Regzas they are getting much love from users.

ddeerrff
04-26-2010, 09:38 AM
I reiterate HDRevs question. The issue you were having with the plasma may have a bearing on the best suggestion for an LCD.

turkletont
04-26-2010, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the responses. To answer the first question, the major problem I had with them was a very loud buzzing sound. I am actually on my 3rd G20 and the weird thing is, this one buzzes louder than the last! I've come to the conclusion that this has to do with my altitude (approx 5,400 feet) because I don't know what else it could be. My other problem might be superficial but I was constantly worrying about IR/Burn-in I couldn't even enjoy what I was watching. Constantly thinking about switching the channel or zooming the picture in to get rid of the logo was just annoying. Not to mention I am a gamer and I hated worrying about whether or not I should stop to prevent burn-in.

So it pretty much seems like my budget of $1,500 is on the lower end of LED's and it should be more worth it to get LCD? I may just stick with the plasma, I'm not sure.

SantaPimp27
04-26-2010, 01:01 PM
Thanks for the responses. To answer the first question, the major problem I had with them was a very loud buzzing sound. I am actually on my 3rd G20 and the weird thing is, this one buzzes louder than the last! I've come to the conclusion that this has to do with my altitude (approx 5,400 feet) because I don't know what else it could be. My other problem might be superficial but I was constantly worrying about IR/Burn-in I couldn't even enjoy what I was watching. Constantly thinking about switching the channel or zooming the picture in to get rid of the logo was just annoying. Not to mention I am a gamer and I hated worrying about whether or not I should stop to prevent burn-in.

So it pretty much seems like my budget of $1,500 is on the lower end of LED's and it should be more worth it to get LCD? I may just stick with the plasma, I'm not sure.

honestly i wouldnt worry about burn in at all. I have gamed on my plasma for 8-12 hours straight many times. I have also left static images (ESPN ticker, game hubs, dvd menus, desktops, ect...) on the screen for 8-10 hours straight and not had any burn in.

Not sure about the buzzing, but you shouldnt be having that problem. If anything try to snag a 2009 model with the double paned glass. I have a V10 and hear no buzzing at all.

mshulman
04-26-2010, 01:07 PM
I'd certainly want to get rid of the buzzing, but as an owner of a 2 Plasma's (just got my 2nd) I would not worry about burn in. Just watch. Use the recommended settings that PFC5 has posted a number of times for the first 100 hours or so and stretch 4:3 material, but otherwise just enjoy.

turkletont
04-26-2010, 01:08 PM
This is taken off some other forums where people report the same issue I have:

"Ive got the buzz on the white screens. I am getting my replacement Monday. I will update if it also has it. Mine is a Feb build. Its just a pain when I leave CC on the news and I am working and the screen changes to a white filled screen it gets loud...then when it goes to more color its normal. "

I am in the exact same boat as this guy , I am also on my 3rd one:
"to those dealing with the 'buzz', let me add something.

this is my 3rd g20. the 1st had a buzz, not loud but so many people said they had no buzz whatsoever so i decided to return a good tv.

the 2nd buzzed just as the first one, but it also had another noise and it got vertical bars for whatever reason that stayed when switching inputs, truly defective i would say.

so i returned for a third one, and what do you know....it buzzes. so ive come to the realization that they ALL buzz and if you dont hear it, then its either our of your frequency of hearing or you just tolerate it better and dont notice it."




"I can notice the buzz over the volume of the TV on some scenes. I think usually it is when there is a lot of white filling the screen (especially on full screen content)"

I don't know if we all have something in common that we get a buzz or if the G20 is just a buzzer. (Although some people report absolutely no buzz at all so I honestly don't know what to believe)

ddeerrff
04-26-2010, 01:36 PM
Plasma has had issues at high altitudes, but you should be well below the rated operating altitude for the Panasonics. Might want to read the article here:
http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/plasmatv-altitude.html

The Samsung 'C650 as suggested above is a nice TV. Or if you want it in a semi-matte screen, look at the 'C630.

dave_m
04-26-2010, 01:38 PM
Not sure about the buzzing, but you shouldnt be having that problem. If anything try to snag a 2009 model with the double paned glass. I have a V10 and hear no buzzing at all.

Only the 58 and 65 inch V10s have the double pane glass in 2009.

SantaPimp27
04-26-2010, 01:46 PM
Only the 58 and 65 inch V10s have the double pane glass in 2009.

Oh didnt know that. Ive got the 65" so mine has it

PFC5
04-26-2010, 02:08 PM
He could get the 2010 S2 series model which still has the 2 panes of glass since he might be getting some of the buzzing from the altitude. With the 2 panes of glass it should insulate the sound.

Also if the contrast is set too high (and at an inaccurate setting BTW) it could be part of the reason also.

turkletont
04-26-2010, 02:37 PM
He could get the 2010 S2 series model which still has the 2 panes of glass since he might be getting some of the buzzing from the altitude. With the 2 panes of glass it should insulate the sound.

Also if the contrast is set too high (and at an inaccurate setting BTW) it could be part of the reason also.


I have it at default THX mode (contrast 60) , is that too high?

I should probably go to best buy and see what their tv's sound like (if they have a buzz or not)

PFC5
04-26-2010, 02:46 PM
No that seems about right for an average home lighting situation. So it is likely the single glass pane and the altitude that is creating the problem. Have you called Panasonic to ask them about it?

As I said before you could look at the P50S2 model which still has 2 panes of glass and should insulate the sound more.

MrMechanic
04-26-2010, 07:22 PM
I had a Panasonic Plasma that burned in within the first year. I switched to a Samsung LN52B750 and I couldn't be happier. I just like it better than the plasma. I, like you, was constantly worried about burn in, and unfortunately it happened on mine. I found that not worrying about burn in and not dealing with image retention leads to a better viewing experience. I can watch TV, resting assured that the score box in the corner, or the ticker at the bottom won't be retained after a full day of nonstop viewing. Just more peace of mind.

For your price range, you could definitely find a LN46B750, and maybe if you're lucky a 52" for near 1500.

pappylap
04-28-2010, 02:57 PM
Maybe tha' Mechanic can send ya' one for @$100.00....
PM him your home address;)

MrMechanic
04-29-2010, 12:13 AM
Maybe tha' Mechanic can send ya' one for @$100.00....
PM him your home address;)

I'd be more than happy, just give me the make and model, so long as it isn't a terribly obscure, oddball model, I could probably get it to you in about a week, week and a half. You'd have to pay for shipping, but that shouldn't be too bad.