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9 new HD total 200

nabuch
04-19-2010, 07:54 AM
Dish press releases says nine new HD channels added, including Turner Classics, bringing the total to 200.

Funny, then, that DTV advertises they have the most HD channels, and dish doesn't sue them.

Anyways, it is good news, right?

oblioman
04-19-2010, 10:04 AM
Dish press releases says nine new HD channels added, including Turner Classics, bringing the total to 200.

Funny, then, that DTV advertises they have the most HD channels, and dish doesn't sue them.

Anyways, it is good news, right?

Depends upon how you look at it. A million hd channels means nothing when only 2 or 3 are worth watching. Or if those 200 channels are priced beyond the average persons reach. Or if those 200 channels are re-hashed SD channels,,,simply counted as HD.

Hokoo
04-19-2010, 11:47 AM
Ok I keep reading ya'll saying new HD here and new HD there but I can tell you that I can only count maybe 80 at most (regular and movie pck) I didnt count the sports or VOD PPV channels above channel 439

I have a VIP722 and a 625

Americas Everything Pak with locals w/Americas top 250
Hbo
Cinemax
Showtime
Starz

Fox Sportnetwork
Big ten network
Gold HD

Bill has gone way up over last year from $90 to now $125 with being given aome sort credit for 6 months for (reciever & loyalty credit) so bill will be in the $140's OMG!!! OMG!!!

Nexgenrulz
04-19-2010, 02:35 PM
Dish press releases says nine new HD channels added, including Turner Classics, bringing the total to 200.

Funny, then, that DTV advertises they have the most HD channels, and dish doesn't sue them.

Anyways, it is good news, right?

http://www.tvpredictions.com/dishadd041910.htm


News & Commentary
Dish Network Adds 8 HD Channels
TVPredictions.com
Washington, D.C. (April 19, 2010) -- Dish Network today added eight new High-Definition channels and immediately claimed to be the first in the nation to offer more than 200 HD channels.

However, until today, Dish claimed to offer around 160 high-def channels. So it's unclear how the addition of eight channels puts the satcaster over the 200 mark. (Plus, some in the 160 count were PPV channels and regional sports networks. which only offer partial programming to some subscribers.)

In a press release today, Dish Network did not explain how it reached the 200 channel mark.

henbone11
04-19-2010, 02:37 PM
I just noticed today that I now have Natgeo Wild and TCM. I dont know what all of the 9 channels are or where they are located, but I did notice these 2 additions.

*edit*
ok, I just saw the post above this (I guess we posted at the same time) and followed the link and saw all new channels listed. I do have them all.

Epix HD - 380
Shorts HD - 375
Headline News - 202 (which I could have sworn I already had)
G4 - 191
NatGeo Wild - 190
Turner Classic Movies - 132
History International - 121
Style HD - 115

HiDefRev
04-19-2010, 06:53 PM
Right. There were 8 additional HD channels added today, not 9. These were announced almost a month ago. I haven't counted 200, either, but DISH definitely has more HD than Directv. :thumbsup:

purplerain
04-19-2010, 07:36 PM
Right. There were 8 additional HD channels added today, not 9. These were announced almost a month ago. I haven't counted 200, either, but DISH definitely has more HD than Directv. :thumbsup:

:D

Any idea if these are worth watching? At least they are adding. Hopefully in time, the YES network will be there:crying:

spokybob
04-19-2010, 09:25 PM
I just noticed today that I now have Natgeo Wild and TCM. I dont know what all of the 9 channels are or where they are located, but I did notice these 2 additions.

*edit*
ok, I just saw the post above this (I guess we posted at the same time) and followed the link and saw all new channels listed. I do have them all.

Epix HD - 380
Shorts HD - 375
Headline News - 202 (which I could have sworn I already had)
G4 - 191
NatGeo Wild - 190
Turner Classic Movies - 132
History International - 121
Style HD - 115

Weird: I had to reboot to pick up some of the new channels. History International and HLN look like something I can use.
I count 81 HD channels from 105USA to 439BigTen. During football season BigTen uses some of the upper channels. I do not have any premium channels.

Hokoo
04-20-2010, 06:32 AM
Nope, checked don't have any of those...

Will try and think of what to say and write it down so can call and find out how I can get them...

Might call DTV and see what price they can quote me before hand incase I need to switch...Hate to, but I'm not going to play the ''Give us more money'' game...

charlie46dav
04-20-2010, 03:27 PM
I just checked my "All Chan" lineup and none of the new channels are available in HD. Will I be updated later?

lsmachado
04-20-2010, 04:10 PM
I just checked my "All Chan" lineup and none of the new channels are available in HD. Will I be updated later?

Yesterday, I noticed NatGeo Wild on the channel list, and it wasn't in HD. This morning, when I turned on the TV, it was there in HD, along with several other channels. Maybe it has to go through the nightly updating when the receiver is off first. I believe you can manually trigger the update, though. It might be worth a try.

Just a thought.

rcoleman11
04-21-2010, 12:52 AM
Anybody know how much of the content on TCM is HD? I was disappointed this wasn't in the list announced by DirecTV. It was one of my favorite channels in SD, but I pretty much quit watching it when I got an HDTV.

Viggen61
04-21-2010, 08:31 AM
Nope, checked don't have any of those...

Will try and think of what to say and write it down so can call and find out how I can get them...

I just checked my "All Chan" lineup and none of the new channels are available in HD. Will I be updated later?

Depends. Do either of you have dishes pointed at Satellites 72 or 129? All new HD is appearing on these sats, including the February crop (BBCA, etc.). I checked TCM and G4, and I'm getting them on Satellite 72.

And, of course, it may depend on the package you're paying for, whether a given channel is available to you.

Anybody know how much of the content on TCM is HD? I was disappointed this wasn't in the list announced by DirecTV. It was one of my favorite channels in SD, but I pretty much quit watching it when I got an HDTV.

Who knows, but even if all they're doing is upsampling a DVD at their head end, it'll look better on our HDTVs. two fewer steps (downsample again to SD, then upsample at the receiver or TV) taken out of the stream. It'll be a while before they resample everything to HDTV standards.

Oh - and expect the vast majority of the programming to be 4:3, with the "pillarboxing" effect of the vertical black bars on the sides. That's just the way they made movies back then...

I have to give kudos to BBC America for their new telelcine transfers for their movies. Was watching some Bond movies, and a Star Trek film (? Guess it becomes a "Brit Movie" when a Brit has a lead role...), and the transfers were among the best I've seen. They didn't rely on anyone else's work there! :yippee:

And Top Gear and Doctor Who are awesome in HD!

Regarding History International: I HOPE they actually have HD programming someplace. All I saw yesterday was stretch-o-vision. Haven't had the time to look at the rest.

lsilvest
04-21-2010, 09:21 AM
Just checked your list out of curiosity since I have the absolute pacakage and don't expect any more channels, but they gave us both Shorts and Epix1. All the other ones on the list show up on my all channels as SD channels only.

Scoob
04-21-2010, 09:36 AM
What kind of programming are Shorts and Epix?

lsilvest
04-21-2010, 10:01 AM
What kind of programming are Shorts and Epix?

Shorts appears to be just short movies from a number of sources. Epix is a movie channel - looks like a lot of lesser known movies, some fairly recent.

charlie46dav
04-21-2010, 01:20 PM
My dishes are pointed at 61.5, 110 and 119. Are they not putting the new channels on 61.5?

purplerain
04-21-2010, 02:52 PM
My dishes are pointed at 61.5, 110 and 119. Are they not putting the new channels on 61.5?

They are on 72:). I had to get the new dish 1000.4:(

Viggen61
04-22-2010, 06:58 AM
My dishes are pointed at 61.5, 110 and 119. Are they not putting the new channels on 61.5?

Nope.

Like purplerain said, they're on 72 for folks in (most of) the Eastern part of the US, 129 for folks in the western part.

The "1000.4" Dish purplerain refers to is a single dish that picks up 61.5, 72 & 77 satellite locations, AKA the "Eastern Arc".

To get any of the new national HD channels that Dish introduced starting in February (BBCA, FSN, G4, TCM, to name a few), you need to be pointed at either the 72 or 129 satellite locations. I had my two dish setup (61.5, 110, 119) replaced with a 1000.4 last month to get the new National HD.

BTW - at least SOME of TCMs stuff is really in HD. Watched the first hour of "Grand Prix" last night, and the film filled the width of my 16:9 HDTV. Transfer was not too bad, either. Not sure if it was presented in the original aspect ratio, though. It was letterboxed, but I thought I recalled thicker bars...

Update: Did some research, and the original aspect ratio for "Grand Prix" was 2.20:1. So, it would appear that TCM was showing the original aspect ratio.

Hokoo
04-23-2010, 09:48 AM
So whats the best or easiest way to call Dish and get them to come and replace my 2 ontop my roof?

Threaten to cancel?

Call Bill Gates and ask him pay for it?

Just stick with what I have and go in back room and cry?

Viggen61
04-23-2010, 11:52 AM
so whats the best or easiest way to call dish and get them to come and replace my 2 ontop my roof?

Threaten to cancel?

Call bill gates and ask him pay for it?

Just stick with what i have and go in back room and cry?

never start off your conversations with a CSR with threats of cancellation. Use that ONLY as a last resort, when you've exhausted all other forms of asking nicely, cajoling, etc. It only serves to make the CSR think you're a boob, and it also paints you into a corner, where if they don't give you what you want, you'll almost have to cancel.

The best thing to do is to call, or do an online chat with Dish. Tell them that you've heard of all the new HD programming (pick one or more channels and mention them BY NAME to the CSR. This lets them know you have a real need, AND lets them look up on your account what satellites you currently receive, and what is available on them.), and that you are not receiving any it. If you like, spin a tale of how you really need to watch some program in HD, or your child/spouse/parent/grandparent can't live without it.

They'll probably tell you they need to send someone to your house and "re point" your dish. This may just be a catch-all phrase they use. If you live east of the Mississippi and south of Maine, ask - politely - about whether you can get the Eastern Arc 1000.4 dish. Not all locations can use this dish, due to a variety of issues, such as which satellite your local channels come in on, the signal strength of the satellite at your location, etc. In some cases, they may need to add a dish to your setup.

As for fees, well, anything is possible, but it'll probably boil down to one of these:

If you have the "protection plan" ($6.00 per month charge) on your bill, then the service call will be $15.00 flat, tacked onto your next bill.

If you don't, then the service charge is (as I recall) $100.00, flat.

You can, if you don't have the plan, call up, add the plan ($6.00 per month), call again for the service call, pay the $15, then cancel the protection plan for a termination fee of $25. Total: $46.00, plus applicable taxes.

Just remember to watch you bill like a hawk. For some odd reason, they wanted to bill me for THREE $15 service calls, when only one occurred. Cleared that up on a chat.

You may also get it for free. Who knows.

Even after the technician arrives, things may change. You may not have a good mounting location for the EA dish, or you may be able to see 61.5 past that apartment building across the street, but not 72 or 77. There may be trees in the way, any number of things can still cause an issue. Talk calmly with the tech about any installation issues. They can do some things, but not bend or break the laws of physics.

When I called, I knew I had a great view from my house to all the EA birds. I was polite, but firm, with the CSR that I wanted the EA, and would not be able, under any circumstances, to accept the installation of a third dish. Everything was fine, and even after the install date got changed a couple times, the swap went without a hitch, and I've been happily watching BBC America with Top Gear and Doctor Who ever since.

Good luck!

farmboy57
04-24-2010, 06:24 AM
Dish will now come out and give you the eastern arc for free ,if you have the old setup,they will be here sat the 24th im in cny the tech who came wed, said memo came out monday no charge to switch to eastern arc to many people complaining

pearltone
04-24-2010, 07:03 AM
speaking of east arc on the 1000.4 dish, what kind of switch do you need, can you use the dp 34 or has to have a dpp switch?

i have a 1000.4 im going to install but have a dp 34 here

thanks

lsilvest
04-24-2010, 10:04 AM
Those new channels are all on 129, but they only show up in the 94xx series, not under the same channel designation as their SD counterpart.

Pamajestic
04-25-2010, 12:40 AM
speaking of east arc on the 1000.4 dish, what kind of switch do you need, can you use the dp 34 or has to have a dpp switch?

i have a 1000.4 im going to install but have a dp 34 here

thanks

The 1000.4 LNB will support up to 3 dual tuner boxes without an external switch.

pearltone
04-25-2010, 07:28 AM
The 1000.4 LNB will support up to 3 dual tuner boxes without an external switch.

thanks, as far as single tuner if im not mistaken i will need a DPP44 ??? for 3 boxes???

thank you

Pamajestic
04-25-2010, 12:45 PM
thanks, as far as single tuner if im not mistaken i will need a DPP44 ??? for 3 boxes???

thank you

Still no external switch needed. As you look at the LNB connections, the three on the left side are all outputs. The one on the right is an input if you need a wing dish for a fourth satellite (i.e. 118 for international programming). Run a cable from each output to each of your three tuners and you are good to go.

DBrannon
04-26-2010, 12:24 AM
Hey everyone, I am currently using two satellite dishes (61.5, 110, 119) and haven't been getting any of the new HD channels. After reading the above posts, it looks like I need to get the new dish that is pointed at the 70 range satellites, is that correct? I know my local channels are on 61.5 so I should be able to go through with the switch easily. Do I need a new receiver to be able to get these new channels such as G4 in HD or Fox Soccer Channel in HD? I am using a 600 series HD Dvr and I believe a newer HD reciever that is not a DVR. Those are the two channels I really want to make the switch for. What all do I need to able to receive these new HD channels since I guess I am currently on the old setup (61.5, 110,119) and doesn't look like Dish will be putting any new HD channels on this setups.

Thanks a bunch guys.

Jodean
04-26-2010, 09:27 PM
i would think in your location you would want 129??

Viggen61
04-27-2010, 07:27 AM
Hey everyone, I am currently using two satellite dishes (61.5, 110, 119) and haven't been getting any of the new HD channels. After reading the above posts, it looks like I need to get the new dish that is pointed at the 70 range satellites, is that correct? I know my local channels are on 61.5 so I should be able to go through with the switch easily. Do I need a new receiver to be able to get these new channels such as G4 in HD or Fox Soccer Channel in HD? I am using a 600 series HD Dvr and I believe a newer HD reciever that is not a DVR. Those are the two channels I really want to make the switch for. What all do I need to able to receive these new HD channels since I guess I am currently on the old setup (61.5, 110,119) and doesn't look like Dish will be putting any new HD channels on this setups.

Thanks a bunch guys.

If you want any of the new HD channels that have been lit up since February, you need to be able to receive either Satellite 72 or Satellite 129. Dish has stated that all new national HD will be going on these two locations.

If you know that your HD locals are on 61.5, then yes, you will be able to use the 1000.4 dish pointed at the "Eastern Arc". Of course, this assumes that you can actually see all three from where your Dish mounts.

The caveat to Eastern Arc is that is requires MPEG-4 capable receivers, which, from what I understand, are all of the VIP receivers, and all current receivers Dish offers. If you have older receivers, then you will need to upgrade those receivers, or you won't see any programming at all.

If you have the VIP 622, and another VIP receiver, then you should be fine on the receiver front. I've had my VIP622 for three and a half years, and it took the new dish without a hitch.

Shu
04-29-2010, 04:52 AM
After reading the posts on this subject..called DISH this morning about not getting some of the new HD channels..the person I spoke with was very helpful, they will be here Friday to install a new dish. Just wanted to say thank you to the folks that posted the information..cause without the information, I would not have a clue....thanks shu

Viggen61
04-29-2010, 07:31 AM
After reading the posts on this subject..called DISH this morning about not getting some of the new HD channels..the person I spoke with was very helpful, they will be here Friday to install a new dish. Just wanted to say thank you to the folks that posted the information..cause without the information, I would not have a clue....thanks shu

Shu: When you get the new dish, let us know what it is they set you up with. A friend of mine lives in Westbrook, and his brand-new setup (installed early in March) was the 61.5 + 110/119 dishes. When I inquired on another forum about him getting the 1000.4, I was told they can't do that up in Maine. I can't imagine it would be that different between Sanford and Westbrook!

Shu
04-29-2010, 09:05 AM
Viggen61: I will keep folks posted. Something has changed, because I called the middle of March told me those new channels were not available on 61.5/110/119. After reading posts decided to give it another shot..shu

Viggen61
04-30-2010, 07:02 AM
Viggen61: I will keep folks posted. Something has changed, because I called the middle of March told me those new channels were not available on 61.5/110/119. After reading posts decided to give it another shot..shu

All I can think of that changed is their willingness to install the 1000.4 dish. I was told that the 77 satellite doesn't have coverage up into Maine, though it was apparently "good" for all of Massachusetts. Perhaps they were able to re-point the satellite to give a better "footprint" into Maine.

Or, they my think they can install a separate dish just to get 72...

We'll see!

Shu
04-30-2010, 01:56 PM
Installer just completed, 1000.4 dish was installed. I now have satellites 61.5/72/77. Technician called it "eastern arc". Also the new channels..shu

Viggen61
05-01-2010, 08:34 AM
Installer just completed, 1000.4 dish was installed. I now have satellites 61.5/72/77. Technician called it "eastern arc". Also the new channels..shu
:yippee: :banana: :yippee: :banana: :yippee: :banana: :yippee:

David D.
05-05-2010, 03:52 AM
Installer just completed, 1000.4 dish was installed. I now have satellites 61.5/72/77. Technician called it "eastern arc". Also the new channels..shu


When I was upgraded to the 1000.4 dish in April, I had to commit for another two years (for the almost free service, which was OK with us)!

delyan
05-05-2010, 09:49 AM
A few months ago I asked for BBC America HD and all other new HD channels that were introduced at the time.
They told me that I need to upgrade with new receivers and even new dish which all summed up to $85.
I wonder if this can be done today for free?

Viggen61
05-06-2010, 08:23 AM
When I was upgraded to the 1000.4 dish in April, I had to commit for another two years (for the almost free service, which was OK with us)!

I wasn't told anything like that when I upgraded back in March. Of course, they could have snuck it by me...

A few months ago I asked for BBC America HD and all other new HD channels that were introduced at the time.
They told me that I need to upgrade with new receivers and even new dish which all summed up to $85.
I wonder if this can be done today for free?

If they are putting you on the "Eastern Arc" with the 1000.4 dish (sats 61.5, 72.7, 77), then all receivers must be MPEG-4 capable. I think this means they all have to be VIP receivers. That is likely the reason for the commitment, not the dish. Older receivers that can't decode MPEG-4 would get nothing.

Rumor has it that Dish wants to move everyone to MPEG-4 receivers at some not too far off date. At that point, the upgrade may cost little to nothing.

delyan
05-06-2010, 12:11 PM
I was just upgraded with 1000.4 but I'm not at home to see the result.

Does anyone has the channel Altitude?
You can see it here
http://www.dishnetwork.com/200hd/default.aspx

Hokoo
05-07-2010, 08:24 AM
Ok so I called them and spent over an hour on phone with a tech which had me do a bunch of things to try and get my VIP722 to pickup the new channels and got zippo...

After explaining/inquiring to her about the 1000.4 EA dish multiple times to replace the 2 500 on the roof, she says that its my reciever that needs to be replaced because its not picking up the new channels at which I disagreed with her...

Very hesitant to have her replace the reciever because I have over 70 movies saved, I finally agree...Then comes the charge of $15 shipping charge to me...NO!! NO!! its not my fault I can't pickup channels I'm paying for so why should I have to pay for it?

''Transfer me over to cancel''
Account specialist now says in order to upgrade it would cost me $95...NO!! NO!! I'm not paying to upgrade or replace something that I feel isnt my fault or problem...She also shoots down the idea that it wouldn't cost me more by switching to that other rip-off company...

In the end, I have gotten no where regarding new channels and my bill is still sky-high...Not a happy camper and mad as hell I can't get Uverse

>>>takes a deep breathe and tells self to relax<<<

nabuch
05-08-2010, 06:43 AM
That tech that told you you needed a new receiver, is wrong, of course.

When I added local HD networks, they would not come in. The tech told me , among other things, to go to a channel that is always in HD, and it wasn't. It was a channel like LOGO, that is never in HD. She said I needed to unplug, etc. (a hard reset), which, of course did nothing.

When I called back, I got someone who actually listened, and figured out that I needed a different satellite. I got it for free with a 24 month committment, even though I was already in the middle of another one.

The moral of this story is that it is never the receiver, it is always the satellite. If you get some HD channels, but not all, then when you call in you need to tell them you need a new upgraded satellite, and don't ask them anything. If they insist you need a new receiver, ask to talk to a supervisor; and, if the supervisor says the same thing, ask to talk to their supervisor.

I thought DTV had a monopoly on clueless CSRs, guess I was wrong.

Downeaster
05-18-2010, 06:48 AM
I can't believe the customer service that we are getting from Dish. I live in Waterford, just as close to the NH border as Shu, and I keep
getting the run around from Dish csr's and the supervisors. This just yesterday, May 17, a csr told me there were no new Hd channels.
I told him I did not believe him and wanted to talk to a supv. Another
30 minutes, and the supv says that the channels are not available here on the east coast yet and I will have to wait like a lot of others. I am
a little discouraged with the service I get for the amount of money I
am paying Dish. I am a senior citizen, and you can guess, my hearing is not as good as it once was, and I have a hard time understanding what these foreign speaking csr's are saying. I guess Dish wasn't thinking of us.

Hokoo
05-25-2010, 06:30 AM
UPDATE

As my previous post stated that customer service over the phone was non-helpful, I did what another poster did and went to twitter and left a message regarding not getting my HD channels and three tweets later he called me on phone and waived all fees as long as I signed up for 24month contract which I did because I'm not going anywhere...

Didn't have to anything with my 722 but he had to replace the 625 with a 612 and so when he said that, I asked if he could add another 612 to my order so I can have all 3 tvs on solo recievers and bingo he said no problem...He also upgraded me to the platinum as those prices and packages will be changed and save me trouble in the process...Said he couldn't do anything with the free HD for life promo yet but told me to get online in June and just click the links in my account to accept the auto pay/paperless billing even though I'm already on it and it will upgrade me no problem...

Needless to say I'm a very happy camper now with all 3 tvs in HD

The only complaint I would have would be the aweful monthly price but hey, atleast I got a great choice of programming when I do sit down and watch tv and especially my Tigers are in HD as well...

If you follow these steps, don't forget to ask for the 3 months free of HBO/Cinemax too