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Need a new television for PC use/HD gaming

Baloonatic
03-17-2010, 06:59 AM
Hi, I'm looking for an LCD TV that will be mainly used with my computer and PS3/360. I'm planning on keeping the computer connected at all times so I'll need to be able to use it for browsing the internet as well as gaming.

Size: 37-42 inches.
Distance: Around 2 metres.
Budget: Willing to go up to 700 but don't think I'll need to.
Usage: 75% PC usage (general and gaming) 25% using my PS3/360. Won't actually be watching much TV but will be watching DVDs and blu-rays.
Viewing angle: I'll be the only one using and I'll be directly in front of it.
Viewing time: I work nights so it will generally be dark when viewing.
Other notes: I guess the response time has to be reasonable as I will be doing a lot of gaming.

I think that's everything. I don't really know much about televisions in general but I have heard good things about:

TOSHIBA Regza 42AV635DB
Sony Bravia W Series 37" 37W5710U

I think the response time might be too slow on the TOSHIBA though.

Also, will I need anything extra to connect my PC to a TV and get sound? I have a DVI-HDMI cable that I will use but I'm not really sure what the deal is with sound (will I need speakers, extra cables etc.)

I would really appreciate any help you guys can give, I've asked in a few other places but haven't been having much luck!

Thanks in advance, let me know if you need any more information.

Edit: One thing I forgot to ask. Should I consider plasma televisions at all for what I'll be using the set for?

SantaPimp27
03-17-2010, 01:09 PM
I would go with a Toshiba Regza LCD. I would not consider a plasma because of the heavy pc usage.

DVI will not run audio, so you need to get a cord that runs from your headphone jack to the audio input on the tv

Baloonatic
03-17-2010, 04:17 PM
I would go with a Toshiba Regza LCD. I would not consider a plasma because of the heavy pc usage.

DVI will not run audio, so you need to get a cord that runs from your headphone jack to the audio input on the tv

Thanks for the input, do you know of any televisions that might be better for me than the two I listed? Or do you think the Toshiba is my best bet?

People seem to think highly of Panasonic on here, should I consider them?

PFC5
03-17-2010, 04:20 PM
I am not a huge fan of Panasonic LCDs. I would put them 4th on the list of LCD brands myself.

Baloonatic
03-17-2010, 04:29 PM
I am not a huge fan of Panasonic LCDs. I would put them 4th on the list of LCD brands myself.

Ok then, maybe I was thinking of plasma when it comes to Panasonic. Who would you rate highly when it comes to LCDs? I'm looking for the best I can get.

Thanks!

bigmatt7487
03-17-2010, 11:42 PM
Ok then, maybe I was thinking of plasma when it comes to Panasonic. Who would you rate highly when it comes to LCDs? I'm looking for the best I can get.

Thanks!

I have a Toshiba Regza, model 52xv645u LCD HDTV. I'm trying to sell it. I hate it. Motion blur is terrible. When I had it hooked up, I watched a lot of sports, particularly hockey on it. It was unbearable.

My kids are big gamers, and they said the image would get choppy and lag with their games. They mostly play shooter games on PS3, Call of Duty if I'm not mistaken. They were disappointed with the performance as well. They also claimed that this blur/image lag was hurting their performance; I don't really game so I cant say whether or not it was, but that's what they claim. There are other issues I have with this TV but those are the two biggest.

I know people here will recommend Toshiba until they are blue in the face, but I regret the decision. If I had to purchase another LCD TV, I would get the Samsung LN52B750. People here berate Samsung, but it seems to be, at least to my eyes, be the best looking LCD. For now, though, it is the good old CRT for me.

That's my opinion. Take it or leave it.

Baloonatic
03-18-2010, 12:07 AM
I have a Toshiba Regza, model 52xv645u LCD HDTV. I'm trying to sell it. I hate it. Motion blur is terrible. When I had it hooked up, I watched a lot of sports, particularly hockey on it. It was unbearable.

My kids are big gamers, and they said the image would get choppy and lag with their games. They mostly play shooter games on PS3, Call of Duty if I'm not mistaken. They were disappointed with the performance as well. They also claimed that this blur/image lag was hurting their performance; I don't really game so I cant say whether or not it was, but that's what they claim. There are other issues I have with this TV but those are the two biggest.

I know people here will recommend Toshiba until they are blue in the face, but I regret the decision. If I had to purchase another LCD TV, I would get the Samsung LN52B750. People here berate Samsung, but it seems to be, at least to my eyes, be the best looking LCD. For now, though, it is the good old CRT for me.

That's my opinion. Take it or leave it.

Interesting, I'll definitely take this into consideration.

I've been reading that LG have decent response times for an LCD so maybe I should research them. Will look into Samsung as well though.

SantaPimp27
03-18-2010, 01:07 AM
I personally wouldnt game on anything but a plasma. PC use is killing you tho

bigmatt7487
03-18-2010, 01:08 AM
Interesting, I'll definitely take this into consideration.

I've been reading that LG have decent response times for an LCD so maybe I should research them. Will look into Samsung as well though.

You will hear from people here that Samsungs are unreliable and that their customer service is terrible. You will also hear that LG has a bad reputation. That said, if I had to do it all over again, I would definitely buy the Samsung model I mentioned earlier and take my chances with the reliability and customer service. Wouldn't think twice.

Baloonatic
03-18-2010, 01:15 AM
I personally wouldnt game on anything but a plasma. PC use is killing you tho

I would definitely rather get a plasma but like you said, it doesn't seem viable if I'm doing a lot of internet browsing etc. I was considering keeping my current monitor and using that for general PC stuff and then switching to the plasma when playing games. Not sure if that would work out though.

So doing a bit more research on LCDs, I've heard some good things about Sony sets. Is the W5810 a good television and would it be suited to what I want?

Baloonatic
03-18-2010, 01:21 AM
I have a Toshiba Regza, model 52xv645u LCD HDTV. I'm trying to sell it. I hate it. Motion blur is terrible. When I had it hooked up, I watched a lot of sports, particularly hockey on it. It was unbearable.

My kids are big gamers, and they said the image would get choppy and lag with their games. They mostly play shooter games on PS3, Call of Duty if I'm not mistaken. They were disappointed with the performance as well. They also claimed that this blur/image lag was hurting their performance; I don't really game so I cant say whether or not it was, but that's what they claim. There are other issues I have with this TV but those are the two biggest.

I know people here will recommend Toshiba until they are blue in the face, but I regret the decision. If I had to purchase another LCD TV, I would get the Samsung LN52B750. People here berate Samsung, but it seems to be, at least to my eyes, be the best looking LCD. For now, though, it is the good old CRT for me.

That's my opinion. Take it or leave it.

I'm looking into Samsung and Sony sets now it seems. The B750 seems out of my price range but the B650 appears to be reasonable. Think it's between that and one of the Sony sets at the moment.

Thanks for the help so far guys, keep it coming!

Baloonatic
03-18-2010, 08:02 AM
I'm beginning to think that maybe I should get a plasma. As long as I wasn't on my desktop for a long period of time it should be fine right? I mean, burn-in would be the only issue but I could avoid it as long as I was careful? Or are there other issues to do with PC + plasma setups?

Baloonatic
03-19-2010, 12:38 AM
Any more advice before I take the plunge? Should I completely rule out plasma or could I get away with it if I'm careful? Any LCDs that have a good response time that I could consider?

I'm pretty desperate for advice here, I'd really appreciate it.

If I went LCD would this be a good choice?

Samsung LE46B550A5 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001UE8LWO/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1S21RNZXMW5HVFAMGG7G&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294)

bigmatt7487
03-19-2010, 01:02 AM
Any more advice before I take the plunge? Should I completely rule out plasma or could I get away with it if I'm careful? Any LCDs that have a good response time that I could consider?

I'm pretty desperate for advice here, I'd really appreciate it.

If I went LCD would this be a good choice?

Samsung LE46B550A5 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001UE8LWO/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1S21RNZXMW5HVFAMGG7G&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294)

Many people on here strongly recommend plasma for gaming, however, using one as a computer monitor, however is probably a bad idea considering burn in can still happen, regardless of how resistant some people say they are.

I personally do not know much about that particular model, but
if you have read the reviews and feel comfortable with it, then go for it. Make sure you are aware of the return policy before you buy it just in case. This is very important.

Like I have said before, people on here berate Samsung for their reliability and customer service, but I know 4 people with Sammys and none have had any problems.

Your call in the end, but I'd say give it a shot.

Best of luck.

Baloonatic
03-19-2010, 01:19 AM
Many people on here strongly recommend plasma for gaming, however, using one as a computer monitor, however is probably a bad idea considering burn in can still happen, regardless of how resistant some people say they are.

I personally do not know much about that particular model, but
if you have read the reviews and feel comfortable with it, then go for it. Make sure you are aware of the return policy before you buy it just in case. This is very important.

Like I have said before, people on here berate Samsung for their reliability and customer service, but I know 4 people with Sammys and none have had any problems.

Your call in the end, but I'd say give it a shot.

Best of luck.

I've read good things about Samsung so I'm not too worried about their reliability. If I go for an LCD it will probably be either a Samsung or Sony.

The reason I think I could be ok with a plasma is because I only really browse the internet/my desktop for 30 minutes to an hour at a time inbetween gaming. I'm just interested to know if that's long enough to create serious burn-in issues, so I guess I need an opinion from a knowledgable plasma user.

I really would MUCH rather get a plasma because the primary use is gaming and it seems that they win against LCD on that front hands down. But if the small amount of general computer use is going to be a problem then I will have to stick with LCD I guess.

bigmatt7487
03-19-2010, 01:33 AM
I've read good things about Samsung so I'm not too worried about their reliability. If I go for an LCD it will probably be either a Samsung or Sony.

The reason I think I could be ok with a plasma is because I only really browse the internet/my desktop for 30 minutes to an hour at a time inbetween gaming. I'm just interested to know if that's long enough to create serious burn-in issues, so I guess I need an opinion from a knowledgable plasma user.

I really would MUCH rather get a plasma because the primary use is gaming and it seems that they win against LCD on that front hands down. But if the small amount of general computer use is going to be a problem then I will have to stick with LCD I guess.

From my understanding of plasmas, and I do not own one, just going off what I have been told, after you "break in" your plasma, say 200 hours of use, burn in becomes almost a non issue.

If you only use it for 30 minutes to an hour as a computer monitor I would have to assume that you would be fine, so long as you take care of it. From what I have gathered, you may get a small amount of image retention, but that will go away with normal use.

If it weren't for my situation, I would also have gotten a plasma, but I have reasons why I can't get one.

Baloonatic
03-19-2010, 01:46 AM
From my understanding of plasmas, and I do not own one, just going off what I have been told, after you "break in" your plasma, say 200 hours of use, burn in becomes almost a non issue.

If you only use it for 30 minutes to an hour as a computer monitor I would have to assume that you would be fine, so long as you take care of it. From what I have gathered, you may get a small amount of image retention, but that will go away with normal use.

If it weren't for my situation, I would also have gotten a plasma, but I have reasons why I can't get one.

That's pretty much what I'm hoping. I've done a lot of searching and have found quite a few people who have used plasmas as monitors so it's obviously not impossible.

Something else I considered is keeping my current 24 inch LCD and using it for general computer stuff until the plasma has been broken in. My video card has 2 DVI outputs so it shouldn't be much a problem.

Anyway like I said, if someone on here with some experience in the area could fill me in I'd be grateful. Thanks a lot for your help so far.

PFC5
03-19-2010, 08:28 AM
I have not used my plasma as a monitor, but if certain steps are taken I think 10% use as a monitor would be OK. Those steps would be:

1. Make sure that you keep the display set to a dimmer contrast setting when using as a monitor.
2. Make sure the task bar is set to autohide.
3. Make sure there are no desktop icons on the screen. You could set up a new profile for this use with no icons when you are using the plasma instead of the LCD monitor.
4. Set the screensaver to go to a black screen after 5 minutes of inactivity.
5. Make sure you run full screen video for about 1/2 hour after any monitor usage.

This also depends on the plasma brand as well. LG has poor Image Retention resistance and Samsung although better than the LG is not as resistent to IR as Panasonic or Pioneer plasmas.

Hope this helps!

Baloonatic
03-19-2010, 08:47 AM
I have not used my plasma as a monitor, but if certain steps are taken I think 10% use as a monitor would be OK. Those steps would be:

1. Make sure that you keep the display set to a dimmer contrast setting when using as a monitor.
2. Make sure the task bar is set to autohide.
3. Make sure there are no desktop icons on the screen. You could set up a new profile for this use with no icons when you are using the plasma instead of the LCD monitor.
4. Set the screensaver to go to a black screen after 5 minutes of inactivity.
5. Make sure you run full screen video for about 1/2 hour after any monitor usage.

This also depends on the plasma brand as well. LG has poor Image Retention resistance and Samsung although better than the LG is not as resistent to IR as Panasonic or Pioneer plasmas.

Hope this helps!

Thanks. Obviously it's a little bit more trouble getting a plasma than an LCD for what I'm using it for but I think it would be worth it overall. I'm pretty much set on this one:

Panasonic TX-P42G10B (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-TX-P42G10B-42-inch-Widescreen-Freesat/dp/B0020ZHGI2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1269009932&sr=8-1)

Unless you have any other suggestions around that price.