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Need help on which HDTV to buy for gaming

abes24
02-28-2010, 10:45 AM
I am currently in the market for a new HDTV, I am mainly going to use it for gaming and watching sports. I have been looking around and I really don't know if I should get a plasma or an LCD and what brand? If anyone could help me out it would be much appreciated

Nexgenrulz
02-28-2010, 10:56 AM
I personally would steer clear of plasmas. Most of the guys here will disagree, but I had one and they're a big pain in the ass (IMO). I don't have time to 'break in' a tv. I prefer LCD. I'm also biased towrds Sony. I have 3 Sony LCD's which all work flawlessly. This is my latest purchase.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666077655

abes24
02-28-2010, 11:03 AM
looks like a nice tv and thanks for the advice, so why did you have problems with ur plasma?

DreGun
02-28-2010, 11:12 AM
I am biased toward LCD, but the reason you don't see all the MHz ratings on Plasma is because they refresh FAR faster than any LCD. How big of a TV are you looking to purchase?

Is it in a dark room, or is there a lot of natural light?

abes24
02-28-2010, 11:20 AM
somewhere in the range of 40 to 50 inch and its going to be in the garage , thats where I do all my gaming and watching sports , I guess I would say the lighting is fair at best

Nexgenrulz
02-28-2010, 11:24 AM
looks like a nice tv and thanks for the advice, so why did you have problems with ur plasma?

Bought a 42" Samsung plasma back in '06. Wasn't educated on the 'break in' period for a plasma. Bottom line, had nothing but screen burn in that ultimatley burned my ass! I sold it to a buddy after 6 months and bought a Sony. Never looked back.

KEEBS1984
02-28-2010, 11:29 AM
I personally would steer clear of plasmas. Most of the guys here will disagree, but I had one and they're a big pain in the ass (IMO). I don't have time to 'break in' a tv. I prefer LCD. I'm also biased towrds Sony. I have 3 Sony LCD's which all work flawlessly. This is my latest purchase.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666077655

I'm gonna have to agree with Nexgen here (:eek:). Plasmas just aren't worth the effort, imo. Also they are huge energy hogs compared to LCDs. So if your electricity bill matters to you at all, you may want to steer clear.

Like Nexgen said, Sony's are top of the line LCD TVs. I think the only better brand would be Pioneer. If you got the money, a Sony is well worth it.

That said Samsung, LG (my current TV), and Toshiba all make fine models are usually cost less than the equivalent Sony. It's my opinion that you can't really go wrong with any of these brands.

Hope this helps. :D

abes24
02-28-2010, 11:30 AM
ive heard that the burn factor technology on plasmas is greatly improved now days but I could be wrong, ive heard pros and cons to each one, so its kinda confusing

Loves2Watch
02-28-2010, 11:33 AM
Plasma technology has greatly improved from 4 years ago.

1. In a room with average and/or low ambient light, plasma gives a much deeper black level which means more saturated colors and detail in the picture. Set up properly you will see a sharper and more 3-D looking image because plasma has more dynamic gray scale range (depth). More steps in tonal range as the difference between black and white is greater. A plasma TV is brighter than any CRT (tube) TV so the brightness issue many talk about is a moot point.

2. Plasma's have much better off axis viewing picture quality as opposed to LCD that degrades quickly when viewed from the side, above/below the screen.

3. Plasma delivers far better color accuracy as it can render deeper, richer colors and can blend tones better than LCDs and generates a larger color pallet.

4. Plasma TV's do not suffer from motion blur as they have 600 Hz sub-fields so the image can maintain its quality longer than LCDs which degrade immediately after being charged. (that is when the image signal is sent to the panel). The response time of a plasma display is measured in microseconds rather than milliseconds, that is at least 1000 times faster, hence another reason for no motion blur/smear.

5. In larger display sizes, plasma TV's cost less, sometimes much less yet still deliver a better picture for all of the above mentioned reasons.

6. Plasma TV's look more like your old CRT display rather than a computer monitor.

7. Plasma TV's have long life, most are rated at a 60,000 hour half life. Panasonic projects their plasma TV's will last at least 100,000 hours.

8. The myths surrounding plasma TV's like the gas has to be recharged, they have short lifespans, they are power hogs, they burn in easily and the like are just that, myths and are in fact not true at all.

9. Plasma TV's are much, much better for gaming due to the rapid response times, better color gamut, better back levels and shadow detail.

10.Plasma TV's have 1080 lines of moving resolution. Let's see a LCD display do that.

So there you have it Plasma is superior in black levels, color saturation, shadow detail, screen uniformity, off axis viewing, motion resolution(full 1080), color depth, and in reproducing everything as it was intended to be seen.. Don't let the bright, high intensity lighting in the stores fool you into thinking that LCD panels look better, if you had that type of lighting in your home they would, but no one does. Besides, having that bright ambient light makes the shadow detail and black levels suffer. Once in your home though, the picture becomes clear, plasma excels where LCD fails. If you are replacing a CRT display with a new TV then plasma will deliver everything you are used to from your CRT display only much, much better.

A gamers delight...

marcallo
02-28-2010, 11:42 AM
The SECOND I saw L2W come into this forum for this topic I knew what his answer was going to be. :D i probably agree, but I have a 46" Samsung A650 and it works just fine for everything I do. I have trouble with the lighting in my viewing area though. Lots of ambient during the day so LCD was the better choice. If you have FULL control over the lighting and are willing to do the burn in time then a plasma is PROBABLY better.

You might wanna post in the actual flat panel area the gamers here are all going to steer you towards LCD for the most part. The Flat Panel guys are all going to say Plasma.

abes24
02-28-2010, 11:43 AM
Thanks keebs I went to best buy the other night and to me the LCD picture quality looked alot brighter than the plasma

abes24
02-28-2010, 11:49 AM
so you have to break in a plasma ive heard, what's that all about? And ive heard most people say plasma is better for gaming, but what about sports?

Bigloww
02-28-2010, 11:50 AM
All I can say is I have both LCD and Plasma for many years and love both. But I have been gaming on my plasma for over 4 years now and it is better. Plasma is the choice for gaming IMO. Wih your garage being a man cave, it will fit quite well with lighing as well.

abes24
02-28-2010, 11:59 AM
thanks bigglow any suggetions on brands? Ive heard panasonic alot, I went to best buy the other day and I was blown away by an insignia plasma I saw, even thought havent heard much about that brand what so ever

Bigloww
02-28-2010, 12:12 PM
Insignia..... Hmm, not my brand of choice. It is a Best Buy bargin store brand and low tier. Not horrible and they are nicely priced, just not what I would recommend. Panasonic would be what I would recommend. Their new models should be hitting the shelves in a week or 2 I think. Samsung also makes very good plasma and worth a look..


But stores are clearing out last years models to make room for the new sets. So you can find some good deals if you are on a strict budget..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Panasonic+-+VIERA+/+50%22+Class+/+1080p+/+600Hz+/+Plasma+HDTV/9236338.p?id=1218064404632&skuId=9236338&st=panasonic%20plasma&cp=1&lp=3


Oh and plasma + fast action sports = :bowdown:...

abes24
02-28-2010, 12:36 PM
thanks for the advice bigglow another thing I was considering was buy a bargain with the old model or should I wait for the new models to come out, I wonder if there will be much difference

kamspy
02-28-2010, 12:53 PM
Another vote for Panasonic.

abes24
02-28-2010, 12:59 PM
yep seems like the popular vote now days, wondering if the new models are worth the wait

kamspy
02-28-2010, 01:03 PM
yep seems like the popular vote now days, wondering if the new models are worth the wait

You'll always be wondering about that.:p

(Panasonic always has new models coming out)


Find a 50" for a price you like and bring it home.

abes24
02-28-2010, 01:19 PM
You'll always be wondering about that.:p

(Panasonic always has new models coming out)


Find a 50" for a price you like and bring it home.

that sounds good it would be nice to find a 50' inch around a thousand

KEEBS1984
02-28-2010, 03:15 PM
yep seems like the popular vote now days, wondering if the new models are worth the wait

Don't worry about newer models. As long as it's 1080p (the standard these days) you'll be fine.

A lot of newer models promise 120 refresh rates (which is great for sports and gaming, lame lame LAME for everything else) so getting one of those would be cool for your mancave.

If you see any TV that is considerably marked up for a 240 refresh rate, or any of these lame-o "TV" apps like Facebook, etc. don't buy into their bullshit. The human eye can not tell the difference between 120 and 240 refresh rates (well not a huge difference anyways) and all these lame apps companies are putting into their TVs are worthless unless you don't have a laptop.

Loves2Watch
02-28-2010, 03:51 PM
Don't worry about newer models. As long as it's 1080p (the standard these days) you'll be fine.

A lot of newer models promise 120 refresh rates (which is great for sports and gaming, lame lame LAME for everything else) so getting one of those would be cool for your mancave.

If you see any TV that is considerably marked up for a 240 refresh rate, or any of these lame-o "TV" apps like Facebook, etc. don't buy into their bullshit. The human eye can not tell the difference between 120 and 240 refresh rates (well not a huge difference anyways) and all these lame apps companies are putting into their TVs are worthless unless you don't have a laptop.

The dialog here has been plasma for the last many posts. Plasma does not need nor use 120 or 240Hz refresh rates as it is already at least 1000 times faster.

marcallo
02-28-2010, 03:59 PM
Unless you know for a FACT something new is coming out and have a reason to wait don't ever wait. At some point you just need to pull the trigger. Same goes with computer hardware.

Nexgenrulz
02-28-2010, 04:41 PM
Go with the LCD. I keep hearing the technology is better now for plasmas. Funny thing is the ***hole at Best Buy told me the same thing in 2006. From reading some posts in the flat panel threads, sounds like they still burn in quite easily. If I'm spending $1000+ I want to use the damn thing, not break it in. I hope you're not sorry like I was. Good luck with whatever you choose.

kamspy
02-28-2010, 05:34 PM
The plasma break in period is way over hyped.

I own a top of the line LCD and a top of the line plasma, and while there are a few things I prefer about the LCD, the plasma wins the majority of the categories, and sweeps the gaming category by a mile.

adamwilkes20
02-28-2010, 05:47 PM
I have only had 2 HDTV's...one Mitsubishi DLP 56" and now I have a Philips 42" 1080P LCD...I sit around 12 feet from the display and my games look real good on it. Never owned a Plasma though

jmwatkins
02-28-2010, 06:46 PM
I will also vote Panasonic plasma. I have a 50" and I had a 46" Samsung LCD. In my opinion, the picture quality is slightly better for games, but when it comes to sports, the plasma is just way better than the LCD. At least the two examples that I have owned anyway.

I also agree with kamspy, the break-in period is way overrated.

Nexgenrulz
02-28-2010, 07:37 PM
The plasma break in period is way over hyped

I respectfully disagree. :2cents

tsetal
03-01-2010, 12:50 AM
so you have to break in a plasma ive heard, what's that all about? And ive heard most people say plasma is better for gaming, but what about sports?

Not only gaming but fact action scenes as well like in sports. If there is no blu ray, a 720p Panasonic plasma is alright and you can save a lot of dough from your budget. You can also try comparing the LCD TV ratings (http://www.smartratings.com/electronics/plasma_and_lcds) for various brands and read the expert reviews as well. That's a good way to get inform about certain products.

Loves2Watch
03-01-2010, 10:24 AM
Not only gaming but fact action scenes as well like in sports. If there is no blu ray, a 720p Panasonic plasma is alright and you can save a lot of dough from your budget. You can also try comparing the LCD TV ratings (http://www.smartratings.com/electronics/plasma_and_lcds) for various brands and read the expert reviews as well. That's a good way to get inform about certain products.

There are NO experts there reviewing equipment.