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2010 NASCAR Thread

18 is # 1
01-23-2010, 10:06 AM
Welcome to the 2010 NASCAR thread. Please feel free to share your rants, raves, and reviews of all things NASCAR. Experience and knowledge are optional as all are welcome to join in.
Share your prognostications and predictions so long as you aren't afraid to eat a little crow.

Huge rule changes allow for more beating and banging at the drivers' discretion!!!

SO.....
Who will it be this year?
ANOTHER championship for the 48? (I'm REALLY getting tired of those guys)
Will Tony's team continue successfully, or hit a sophomore slump?
Can Kyle win without making the Chase again?
Will Jr. suck again?
Will Toyota continue domination of Nationwide?
How many teams will fold or merge from economic pressure?
What sponsors will bail?

Jump on in!

Emil
01-23-2010, 06:57 PM
I'm hoping the Petty-Yates thing works out.
Let's see how future fatherhood affects JJ.
It will be curious to see if Toyota has special rules regarding gas pedals!
Thank God they're getting rid of those stupid wings!

Mylesjen
01-23-2010, 08:05 PM
I hope it is not Hendrick dominance again.
I hope dale jr continues to suck.
I hope Ambrose keeps improving.

Poorboy
01-30-2010, 11:59 AM
Bring it on....... 2010!

Well now, ole Smoke is still like a tampax, he'll hang right in there!

I'll wait a while on the championship thingy, sure seems fishy to me,
best part of the chase is the football games.

Jr. is doing just fine. He may move up a couple spots with a better crew chief.
Don't tell anyone I said this, but I got a feelin Jr. is training and starting out a new driver to NASCAR
that very well may take his job away from him in next couple years at HMS.

18 is # 1
01-30-2010, 01:39 PM
It will be curious to see if Toyota has special rules regarding gas pedals!


LMAO :lol:

ws450r
02-02-2010, 04:12 PM
Can't wait to see how Danica does this saturday and througout the Nationwide season. Also, seeing how she does jumping back and forth between IRL and Nationwide. Looking for Hendrick dominance again, and also hoping for Gordon to get to number 5 before Johnson does.

adamwilkes20
02-02-2010, 05:17 PM
I believe Tony and Ryan will be as successful as they were in 09....I also think that by July we will se a 3rd team added to their stable, for the 2011 season.

I DO NOT believe the 48 will repeat again in 2010

Jr well I believe he will suck due to the hype over Danica mania...he needs to drive the dang car and leave the other stuff alone for a while.

Yes, I believe Toyota will continue to dominate the Natiowide Series in the CURRENT CAR..however when they roll out the COT I believe every manufacturer will be on equal footing.

I also believe that by years end there will be an anouncement from Bass Pro Shops that they will be joining forces with Ryan Newman and SHR...

I believe we will hear a stink from Nationwide and Truck series teams about their purses being cut. The race purses in those series' was already embarrasing as it was, but to cut it even further is more or less a slap in the face, especially when NASCAR is mandating all teams run the COT. So I believe you will see the smaller N'wide teams and truck teams folding eventually. Sad thing is, ISC posted a profit from the 09 season and still insisted on cutting purses.

Poorboy
02-02-2010, 06:58 PM
Wonder if Danica gets any perks or bonus for the extra seats that sell in NASCAR this year. I guess she brought a lot more fans back to IRL races ??

adamwilkes20
02-02-2010, 08:05 PM
Wonder if Danica gets any perks or bonus for the extra seats that sell in NASCAR this year. I guess she brought a lot more fans back to IRL races ??


Nope, all the perks will go to NASCAR and ISC or SMI and the broadcast partners.

If infact she does race the N'wide race at Daytona, since she is not listed as the "official"driver for the 7 car as of yet...We will see record ticket sales for the N'wide race.

NASCAR has licked their chops for quite a while that an owner get her into NASCAR...if you remember correctly a couple years ago she was being courted by Jack Roush..but backed off of NASCAR for a while.

pappylap
02-02-2010, 08:35 PM
I will be in Daytona Feb 11, thru 15th and will be cheering in honor of the High Def Forum.........:banana:

Poorboy
02-02-2010, 08:47 PM
I will be in Daytona Feb 11, thru 15th and will be cheering in honor of the High Def Forum.........:banana:

Sure will be nice! Best of luck and hope the weather is perfect for you!

adamwilkes20
02-02-2010, 08:50 PM
I will be in Daytona Feb 11, thru 15th and will be cheering in honor of the High Def Forum.........:banana:

Do you ever go to the 400? Thats the race the wife and I go to every year.

Poorboy
02-02-2010, 10:16 PM
Nope, all the perks will go to NASCAR and ISC or SMI and the broadcast partners.

If infact she does race the N'wide race at Daytona, since she is not listed as the "official"driver for the 7 car as of yet...We will see record ticket sales for the N'wide race.

NASCAR has licked their chops for quite a while that an owner get her into NASCAR...if you remember correctly a couple years ago she was being courted by Jack Roush..but backed off of NASCAR for a while.

I agree. I am also just too soft hearted, if she made me a couple million or so I would have to buy her some groceries or something.

adamwilkes20
02-02-2010, 10:23 PM
I agree. I am also just too soft hearted, if she made me a couple million or so I would have to buy her some groceries or something.

Now when it comes to souveniers (spelling)..thats where NASCAR will (in a way) be giving her some dough. Motorsports Authentics is owned by SMI (Bruton Smith) and ISC (parent company of NASCAR)...depending on how her contract is written for liscensing, then she would get a chunk of that change. However, Motorsports Authentics is so deep in the hole now they already owe some drivers royalty money and are considering bankruptcy or have already filed.

adamwilkes20
02-03-2010, 05:36 PM
Just an FYI.....


Smoke WILL win the shootout this weekend.

Emil
02-03-2010, 05:58 PM
Just an FYI.....


Smoke WILL win the shootout this weekend.

GL to Smoke.

I'm pulling for some other guys though.

adamwilkes20
02-07-2010, 03:34 AM
I will tell you the truth...I wasn't very impressed with the shootout..and no, not because Smoke didn't win...just the cars look too unstable in the draft as compared to previous races at the speedway.

I fear the Daytona 500 will be an ARCA style wreck fest.

Emil
02-07-2010, 06:54 AM
I will tell you the truth...I wasn't very impressed with the shootout..and no, not because Smoke didn't win...just the cars look too unstable in the draft as compared to previous races at the speedway.

I fear the Daytona 500 will be an ARCA style wreck fest.

Aerodynamically I don't think anything has changed yet, maybe it just looked that way?

I enjoyed it, fortunately it wasn't like ARCA, these guys are better drivers.

Poorboy
02-07-2010, 08:54 AM
Couple of the ARCA cars looked pretty bad. I did like the fact that last 20 or so laps were caution and commercial free.

Don't know what to think of the new rules for bumpin, shuven, and bangin. I would assume they expect some fists to be thrown around freely with that.
I'd prefer just good clean green flag racing, but if it takes the big crashes to sell a ticket I guess I'll go along. I expect the green white checkered will be the norm.

adamwilkes20
02-07-2010, 12:18 PM
Aerodynamically I don't think anything has changed yet, maybe it just looked that way?

I enjoyed it, fortunately it wasn't like ARCA, these guys are better drivers.


They did make a couple aero changes to the cars for the plate tracks. They are running a shorter wicker on the wing and the addition of the "shark fin" back onto the cars.

Emil
02-07-2010, 03:28 PM
They did make a couple aero changes to the cars for the plate tracks. They are running a shorter wicker on the wing and the addition of the "shark fin" back onto the cars.

Ah,
Let's see how they do without the wing!

adamwilkes20
02-07-2010, 03:37 PM
Ah,
Let's see how they do without the wing!


according to what Smoke and Jamie Mac was saying after they took part in the test with the spoiler, the cars were much more stable and drove a lot like the old car.

The best aero package NASCAR ever put on the cars for the plate tracks was the package used in 2001. They put a wicker across the roof of the cars and the racing was really good that year.

adamwilkes20
02-08-2010, 03:34 PM
Well, looks like Danica has made a concrete decision to officially put her name on the entry list in the 7 car for the N'wide race. Now we will get to see how she really adds up when she is racing with the big boys.

Emil
02-08-2010, 05:59 PM
Well, looks like Danica has made a concrete decision to officially put her name on the entry list in the 7 car for the N'wide race. Now we will get to see how she really adds up when she is racing with the big boys.
She did pretty good in the ARCA race but she needs to learn about pulling out of line.

adamwilkes20
02-08-2010, 06:10 PM
She did pretty good in the ARCA race but she needs to learn about pulling out of line.

She'll learn when to race and when to just ride when it comes to plate racing. Hell, there are guys who have been doing this for years who didnt know when to pull out to make a move and ill timed it only to go to the back. But showing that she could get back through the pack was the eye opener IMO...at least for me....

Emil
02-08-2010, 06:53 PM
It's got to be a heck of a lot more fun to drive these things than open wheel cars. You can at least get close and give a nudge without worrying about flipping up in the air from any slight contact.

adamwilkes20
02-08-2010, 06:57 PM
It's got to be a heck of a lot more fun to drive these things than open wheel cars. You can at least get close and give a nudge without worrying about flipping up in the air from any slight contact.

Yeah I'd imagine so..I think that is why she was so hesitant to bump draft...thats just something she is not used to being able to do...

adamwilkes20
02-09-2010, 09:08 PM
So anybody wanna take picks on who will win the N'wide race and where Danica will finish?

My pick to win: Smoke (running the #4 Ritz/Oreo car for KHI)
Danica's finishing position: 8th

18 is # 1
02-10-2010, 02:55 AM
Ah,
Let's see how they do without the wing!

I don't think they switch over until about halfway through the season.

Emil
02-10-2010, 07:19 AM
So anybody wanna take picks on who will win the N'wide race and where Danica will finish?

My pick to win: Smoke (running the #4 Ritz/Oreo car for KHI)
Danica's finishing position: 8th

I'm not in to picking but I'm looking forward to watching it!

As long as someone in a Toyota doesn't "stick" their nose ahead to "brake" through for a win I'm happy :).

adamwilkes20
02-10-2010, 12:06 PM
I don't think they switch over until about halfway through the season.


Look for it to start probably in April...they have a full field test scheduled at Charlotte in March.

GymBrat98
02-10-2010, 04:25 PM
Check out the cake.:hithere:


http://www.highdefforum.com/sports-forum/81138-bad-news-you-f91-33.html#post1003766

Poorboy
02-11-2010, 06:40 PM
Want to record some wrecks? NASCAR is gearin up for 3 green, white, checkereds now?

adamwilkes20
02-11-2010, 06:55 PM
Want to record some wrecks? NASCAR is gearin up for 3 green, white, checkereds now?

Yeah read that on Jayski today...it is going to end up like the 02 St. louis truck race...I think they attempted it like 5 times for that one race....lol

Poorboy
02-11-2010, 07:26 PM
I wonder what they would do if a driver just rode the back of the pack a comfortable distance behind for the whole race, not just back pack till the last 20 laps, which is done a lot. This would give the driver time to avoid all the crashes and debris. After say 3 crashes on this track the trailing car would automatically be in the top ten and stay on the lead lap. All the more crashes would just advance the last car by not being in pit or garage. Finish big race with top five or ten and still have a good car!! Mickey would not be my best pick for this job! LOL!!

adamwilkes20
02-11-2010, 08:01 PM
that would work out alright if he had a drafting partner back there with him and they didnt loose the pack....the pack of cars in the draft will always be 5+ MPH faster than a single car runing by themselves. If the pack stayed tight it wouldnt take too long for that driver even if he had a partner to loose the pack and eventually get lapped.

Dale Jarrett was the finest at hanging in the back up until the last 10 or 20 laps..that was his style and it worked for the most part. But with todays level of competition you have to mix it up there eventually.

Mylesjen
02-12-2010, 10:06 AM
I wonder what they would do if a driver just rode the back of the pack a comfortable distance behind for the whole race, not just back pack till the last 20 laps, which is done a lot. This would give the driver time to avoid all the crashes and debris. After say 3 crashes on this track the trailing car would automatically be in the top ten and stay on the lead lap. All the more crashes would just advance the last car by not being in pit or garage. Finish big race with top five or ten and still have a good car!! Mickey would not be my best pick for this job! LOL!!

I guess it is a risk either way. Near the back of the pack you will come across more wrecks to avoid. If you are in the front pack, most wrecks happen behind you.

Emil
02-12-2010, 12:09 PM
Dale Jarrett was the finest at hanging in the back up until the last 10 or 20 laps..that was his style and it worked for the most part.
If I remember correctly he only started to do that later in his career and actually didn't fare too well. I think he only won one race that way.
I was a big DJ fan till he lost his way :).

adamwilkes20
02-12-2010, 02:37 PM
Yeah, I only got into to NASCAR when Smoke went full time into cup in 99...as far as I can remember he would fall back then when it was time to race, he was up front MOST of the time.

Poorboy
02-13-2010, 03:26 PM
Congrats Smoke!! Good racin! No green, white, checker!

Emil
02-13-2010, 09:02 PM
Good race, got a bit intense at the end.

Not a good move by Carl.

drbrosco
02-14-2010, 09:09 AM
Hey all you Nascar experts let me tell ya who's gonna win today....Juan pablo Montoya!....remember when he wins you read it here first.

Have a great day & enjoy the race! :hithere:

Poorboy
02-14-2010, 09:32 AM
As it seems Nascar is encouraging and inviting the drivers to race and win the way Juan got his win. I just hope the drivers do well and that Nascar realizes this ain't no road course in Mexico @ 50 mph in corners.

Poorboy
02-14-2010, 09:40 AM
I apologize. I was thinking of a Nationwide race in Mexico? Forgot he got a good one at Infinion!

adamwilkes20
02-14-2010, 10:22 AM
JPM certainly has the equipment to win today..but I dont think it will happen....with his luck the guy pushing him will be a guy he has raced a little too hard and he will get dumped. JPM hasnt proven to me yet that he can win on an oval...sure he can run well, but he hasnt proven that he knows what it takes to win at one.

I think that if he can calm down and realize when to race and when not to race JPM can be a very legitimate threat every weekend.

rbinck
02-14-2010, 06:03 PM
With the track problems it could be anyone. Except for Jimmy.

Emil
02-14-2010, 06:51 PM
WTG Jamie Mc!
Was sorry to see him go from Roush when they were forced to reduce size.

Honestly after the first GreenWhiteCheckers I turned it off.
The race was way too long!

Kinda reminded me of the Indy debacle.

Poorboy
02-14-2010, 07:07 PM
I thought about that Indy debacle several times today.
This ol guy is starting to figure out why some of the posters want those 1ton hard drives now, they want to be able to record the whole race!

rbinck
02-14-2010, 07:25 PM
Time to repave that track. Jr. almost caught him.

Poorboy
02-14-2010, 07:27 PM
Time to repave that track. Jr. almost caught him.

Did I hear them right that the pavement is on there since 1978?

Emil
02-14-2010, 07:50 PM
Did I hear them right that the pavement is on there since 1978?
I think I heard it too !

adamwilkes20
02-14-2010, 09:32 PM
Did I hear them right that the pavement is on there since 1978?

yes...you heard right...they have considered a repave for a number of years now.....

The problem with the repave is we dont have very many climate swings here in central Florida...and seasonly climate changes help "season" the asphalt by reducing grip. With that being said, if they do repave the track it will be more or less a parade everytime they run for a couple of years...not too mention if they totally smooth the surface it will take some of the characteristics out of the surface the drivers have come to like.

pappylap
02-16-2010, 10:29 AM
I assume the torrential rains and cold temperatures of Friday and Saturday (I should know I slept outside) contributed to the track malfunction, hope the powers that be opt to repave before the next 500.

18 is # 1
02-17-2010, 04:44 PM
Bigger restrictor plates helped the race to be more entertaining.

Emil
02-22-2010, 06:15 PM
Congrats to JJ.

Same ole, same ole, they are good :thumbsup:

Poorboy
02-27-2010, 09:13 PM
4996 Glad to see Kevin get a win, and his car owner is no where to be found! Hope she is well.

adamwilkes20
02-27-2010, 09:25 PM
Oh I bet she is there..tomorrow is their anniversary

Emil
02-27-2010, 10:00 PM
"Night Train" wins gold!
Congrats to Geoff, it took 18 years but he got it done!

Emil
02-28-2010, 06:52 PM
JJ's at it again.

Congrats to them.

adamwilkes20
02-28-2010, 06:59 PM
I seriously think it is time for the 24 to start looking for a crew chief. that call he made on the last stop to take only 2 tires with about 33 laps to go was pure stupid and just gifted the win to the 48. Letarte, sure he can make the car run well into the top 10, but you cant just dial yourself out of wins like that. They knew all along that their car was set up for the short run...he could pull away for 10 or 15 laps but he would lose it after that...what was he expecting 2 tires to do in 30 laps?

Poorboy
02-28-2010, 07:33 PM
I wonder if Jeff don't come out with more money this way, he don't give JJ all the money for a win, plus it gave JJ 10 more points for chase days. I don't watch as much of the race as I once did, on lap 10 I had this race pegged right and went to the hockey game. Bad day all around for me! Any way it happens they each have more money than anyone with some sense could ever spend.

adamwilkes20
02-28-2010, 07:39 PM
The mystery on where the money goes in NASCAR will always be that, a mystery. No one really knows what drivers are paid or what kind of sponsorship dollars owners get. Some rumors have said that the higher tiered drivers get approx 60% of race winnings then the rest gets split among the owner and the teams overhead.

Poorboy
02-28-2010, 07:40 PM
Oh I bet she is there..tomorrow is their anniversary

Did get to see her, that helped and her ol man did good to, hope he stays on them. Thought for a while Kyle was going to get in front with them, but something must a happened.
Delana is the only one of the gals that wears a fire suit it the pits.

adamwilkes20
02-28-2010, 07:44 PM
You are talking about the Nwide race right with Kyle and Harvick? If so, yeah...Kyle was already batteling a tight car and he got into the wall, killing the right front of the car. He plummeted after that.

Poorboy
02-28-2010, 07:56 PM
You are talking about the Nwide race right with Kyle and Harvick? If so, yeah...Kyle was already batteling a tight car and he got into the wall, killing the right front of the car. He plummeted after that.

Naw, I watched all the NW race. As I was switching back and forth today I thought I saw KB in the top 5 or so awhile there.
The race and game were only one channel apart today and I was on antenna so couldn't get the pip to work, plus with my eyes I didn't think I could see hockey good in the small window. Best reason I like to see Kyle on his good day is to ruin JJ and Jeff's day. Makes my best day when Smoke can do it.

adamwilkes20
02-28-2010, 08:04 PM
ohhhh okay....I think you were talking about when he was up the running in 3rd and was going for the lead. I really dont know what happened to him today. I was too busy twttering about how angry I have been with Smokes restarts lately. today his crew was on it...picked him up 3 spots on one pitstop...then on the restart he lost like 5 spots. Next stop they picked him 4 spots and he lost like 7 on the restart. I font know if it just him trying to not spin the tires on the restart or if they need to work on his gearing in the trans.

Emil
02-28-2010, 09:23 PM
I saw the interview of Montoya after he and Jamie crashed.
Montoya is a jerk.

Poorboy
03-01-2010, 01:30 PM
:thumbsup:I saw the interview of Montoya after he and Jamie crashed.
Montoya is a jerk.
Missed the interview however I agree 100%, got my least favorite of all time drivers there!

Emil
03-05-2010, 06:40 AM
http://www.fordracing.com/news/detail/?preview=1&article=37479

Poorboy
03-06-2010, 09:52 AM
http://www.fordracing.com/news/detail/?preview=1&article=37479

A good read, Thanks!:yippee:
Would be quite a job to tackle.

Emil
03-08-2010, 06:55 AM
Congrats to Kurt.
One of the more interesting races to watch, cars coming and going depending on how far into the run they were.

Carl was stupid.
He needs to concentrate more on doing better in the races than retaliation.
Some of the noob drivers on the Sprint Cup circuit like Keslowski and Logano should be watched more closely. Seems like respect goes out the window with these guys

It's amazing how when people say Hendricks domination is bad for the sport than magically every one of their cars has an issue!
I'm sure it's just coincidence but interesting, after all if anything they would want JR to win.

The FR9 survived in a very unceremonious fashion, 16th place for the #21.

On to Bristol!
Let's hope some of the excitement comes back to this track.
Hasn't been very good since they "fixed" it.

pappylap
03-08-2010, 12:46 PM
Carl was stupid.
He needs to concentrate more on doing better in the races than retaliation.
Some of the noob drivers on the Sprint Cup circuit like Keslowski and Logano should be watched more closely. Seems like respect goes out the window with these guys

I wouldnt be surprised if Nascar didnt pat these "boys" on the back. Hell, they may even schedule a no holds barred best 2 outta' 3 falls cage match between em' on the WWF circuit in an effort to bolster ticket sales for the races.

oblioman
03-08-2010, 01:32 PM
when does the hot chick start racing?

Poorboy
03-08-2010, 01:47 PM
when does the hot chick start racing?

She will be with her Indy cars most of the time now for a while. The guys in the booth better not forget to milk that cash cow often, er speak about her every few minutes tho.

Poorboy
03-08-2010, 01:59 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if Nascar didnt pat these "boys" on the back. Hell, they may even schedule a no holds barred best 2 outta' 3 falls cage match between em' on the WWF circuit in an effort to bolster ticket sales for the races.

Got that right :thumbsup: Wonder if they aren't kinda worried till they get rid of that wing. Seems the car goes airborne more than with the spoiler. I'm not a fan of them wanting an hour or so to run the last three laps but I don't have 8000 more hot dogs to sell.

pappylap
03-08-2010, 06:30 PM
I'm not a fan of them wanting an hour or so to run the last three laps but I don't have 8000 more hot dogs to sell.

I would much rather see a finish under green......Kurt had to win the race 3 times though

oblioman
03-08-2010, 06:54 PM
oh oh,,,is wracing getting to look like wrastling? If so,,,they need to add more hotties and remove more than the wings. :D

oblioman
03-08-2010, 06:55 PM
hotties as in hot women (said in me deepest voice)

adamwilkes20
03-09-2010, 06:53 PM
when does the hot chick start racing?

Not until after the Indy 500

Emil
03-09-2010, 07:37 PM
I think they were a bit light on Carl.
3 race probation, not even a hand slap.

I like the guy but what you see is not always what you get with him.

adamwilkes20
03-09-2010, 08:08 PM
Well, NASCAR put themselves in a tough spot by announcing they would ease off the drivers. Had they penalized Carl it would add grey area to what was allowed and what was not allowed. What NASCAR should have done, is not announce anything and let thngs happen as they did, then take it as a case by case deal..know what I mean?

Emil
03-09-2010, 10:22 PM
Well, NASCAR put themselves in a tough spot by announcing they would ease off the drivers. Had they penalized Carl it would add grey area to what was allowed and what was not allowed. What NASCAR should have done, is not announce anything and let thngs happen as they did, then take it as a case by case deal..know what I mean?

Ya, but they needed to get the interest back so they thought going back to "rubbin' is racin'" was ok and needed to advertise it.

adamwilkes20
03-09-2010, 10:55 PM
IMO, and I have been a fan for a long time..although not as long as you older fellas..is ditch these silly cookie cutter tracks...get some more unique tracks sanctioned...cut back the schedule so we are not so saturated with NASCAR programs...get on more short tracks where the heart of grass roots racing beats.

Emil
03-10-2010, 06:39 AM
It's just a matter of how people are today. If something isn't happening every few minutes they get bored.
Nascar is fighting a losing battle on that one but I don't think they should try to fight it either, it's just the nature of the sport.

18 is # 1
03-15-2010, 03:10 PM
New spoiler picture here: http://www.joegibbsracing.com/

Emil
03-15-2010, 04:45 PM
New spoiler picture here: http://www.joegibbsracing.com/

Hope it does the job.

Thanks

Poorboy
03-17-2010, 08:07 AM
Just read about how rehearsal for the dega race turned out.

http://www.motorracingnetwork.com/article.aspx?artnum=54442

Emil
03-21-2010, 03:23 PM
Congrats to JJ on the win and 50 :yippee:.

18 is # 1
03-24-2010, 03:12 PM
How did Kyle bring that POS car in for a top 10?

Sorry I haven't been around much. Between work and college hoops, I've been Kinda busy. I'm lovin' my Baylor Bears in the Sweet Sixteen.

Emil
03-24-2010, 07:05 PM
How did Kyle bring that POS car in for a top 10?

Sorry I haven't been around much. Between work and college hoops, I've been Kinda busy. I'm lovin' my Baylor Bears in the Sweet Sixteen.

Because Kyle is a great driver, I can only imagine how well he would be doing if......, well, you know :).

adamwilkes20
03-24-2010, 07:52 PM
How did Kyle bring that POS car in for a top 10?

Sorry I haven't been around much. Between work and college hoops, I've been Kinda busy. I'm lovin' my Baylor Bears in the Sweet Sixteen.

Well, when he got into the wall he never went a lap down, then they had that "big one" that involved 13 cars. But when Kyle brought out the caution the race was just barely over the half way mark, he had plenty of time to recover. Not to mention he wasnt anywhere nearly as agressive as he usually is at Bristol.

Do you realize this is the first time Kyle has been in the top 10 in points since July of 2009?

Poorboy
03-28-2010, 04:31 PM
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18 is # 1
03-31-2010, 01:27 PM
I thought Kyle would get a top five.....until five to go.:crying:

Poorboy
04-11-2010, 11:43 AM
Congrats to the 39 !!

Emil
04-12-2010, 05:46 AM
Congrats to Ryan!

Not too sure why they have these races that transition from day to night.
Different guys may be stronger at different times but until it gets dark you might as well not even watch because it will all change. It doesn't matter if you're leading in the day (except for some extra points for most laps and leading a lap) since the race is won at night.

18 is # 1
04-12-2010, 08:19 AM
WTG 39

Sucks I'll miss Texas this Spring...25th anniversary Caribbean cruise. Darn.

Emil
04-12-2010, 09:01 AM
WTG 39

Sucks I'll miss Texas this Spring...25th anniversary Caribbean cruise. Darn.

My wife and I will gladly do the cruise for you if you need to stay home for the Texas race ! :)

Congrats on the 25!

Emil
04-14-2010, 11:11 AM
Kahne to Hendricks in '12.

Right now I'm starting to think he just doesn't have the talent, we'll see.

lsilvest
04-14-2010, 12:05 PM
Kahne to Hendricks in '12.

Right now I'm starting to think he just doesn't have the talent, we'll see.

I think he'll fit in well with Hendricks. He has the talent and a good attitude and should thrive with better equipment. They're saying he'll replace Martin, but I'd rather they keep Martin if he doesn't want to retire and get rid of the overhyped Jr.

adamwilkes20
04-14-2010, 05:29 PM
Kahne has the talent, but hasnt has the equipment to compete since his early days with Evernham...I thought Ford would put a little more effort into getting the new engine ready so they can compete with the Chevrolet teams but they are lacking. Only the Wood Brothers team is running that engine every weekend, even Biffle said he thought they would have more teams running the engine by now. But parts supplies are too low to supply the teams with the engines. And Gillette (owner of Richard Petty Motorsports) is having some loan troubles too...he is already in default of a $90 Million loan...

Emil
04-15-2010, 05:53 AM
Times are tough, best of luck to him.
Does anyone know when he's leaving RPM?

Poorboy
04-15-2010, 08:57 AM
Times are tough, best of luck to him.
Does anyone know when he's leaving RPM?

Here is one article.

http://www.motorracingnetwork.com/article.aspx?artnum=54908

18 is # 1
04-15-2010, 10:28 AM
My wife and I will gladly do the cruise for you if you need to stay home for the Texas race ! :)

Congrats on the 25!

I would take you up on your offer, but I would like to have a 26th anniversary also.

Emil
04-15-2010, 10:52 AM
I would take you up on your offer, but I would like to have a 26th anniversary also.

Smart man :)

Our 33rd is in August.

adamwilkes20
04-16-2010, 01:59 PM
Times are tough, best of luck to him.
Does anyone know when he's leaving RPM?

My guess, being as SHR is the strongest Hendrick affiliated team in cup is that he will be in an SHR car with Stewart and Newman for 2011 then go over to HMS in 2012.

However, with Mark Martin and the respect he has for his team...it would not surprise me one bit if he had a lack luster year for the rest of this season and told Hendrick he would step out of the 5 and race for SHR for 2011 and let Kasey get into the car and lay the foundation for his future with HMS.

Emil
04-20-2010, 05:52 AM
What a mess!

Congrats Denny.

Emil
04-25-2010, 03:27 PM
Hate that stupid three try ending, I turned it off after two.

Was hoping Jamie would have gotten it.

18 is # 1
04-25-2010, 10:48 PM
Harvick is happy. So am I...because I got to watch the Texas race on the cruise ship Monday after all.

18 is # 1
05-02-2010, 08:22 AM
Congrats to KB.
I don't remember seeing Jeffie so hungry for a win.

Emil
05-03-2010, 06:56 AM
Turned the race off in the middle, I have no desire to watch Toyota's race :(.

KB did have them covered though.

Poorboy
05-03-2010, 05:26 PM
That's what I like about KB, when I can't count on Smoke, at least I can hope he will ruin Jeffy and JJ's day. Also their put on squabbles are all paid for and written by NASCAR.

Emil
05-11-2010, 05:55 AM
Denny's got it goin' right now.

Racing on Mothers Day weekend just don't work for me.

Emil
05-15-2010, 05:41 PM
Wow, I hate watching 'yota's race.
I fear they may lose me this year :(.

18 is # 1
05-16-2010, 07:25 PM
Bow to the Master....

Emil
05-16-2010, 08:12 PM
Bow to the Master....

? JJ lost ?


I hate 'yota's

18 is # 1
05-19-2010, 08:10 PM
I hate 'yota's

That makes wining all the sweeter Emil!:thumbsup:

adamwilkes20
05-19-2010, 08:15 PM
it was a good race between the two...I would have loved it if Jimmie hadnt been caught speeding and it came down to a GWC...I think it would have been quite a show

Emil
05-20-2010, 06:01 AM
That makes wining all the sweeter Emil!:thumbsup:

I just don't like the way they do business.

Emil
05-24-2010, 11:03 AM
Interesting how when someone's move they use extensively gets used on them there's a I swear to God, I am going to kill (him). reaction. :)

adamwilkes20
05-24-2010, 04:56 PM
I really don't think Denny tried blocking Kyle...Look at how fast the 48 and 18 were catching the 11..and they were running side by side, door to door...Denny should have been pulling away being as he was in clean air, alone in the lead. I think Denny just got tight on corner exit and pushed up...after watching the replay, thats how it looked to me.

Emil
05-24-2010, 05:18 PM
I really don't think Denny tried blocking Kyle...Look at how fast the 48 and 18 were catching the 11..and they were running side by side, door to door...Denny should have been pulling away being as he was in clean air, alone in the lead. I think Denny just got tight on corner exit and pushed up...after watching the replay, thats how it looked to me.

Could very well be the case.

18 is # 1
05-26-2010, 11:49 AM
I'm sure KB saw it that way also.:duh:

Emil
05-26-2010, 12:38 PM
I'm sure KB saw it that way also.:duh:

We know how he saw it :rolleyes:

adamwilkes20
05-26-2010, 05:28 PM
Exactly...But Kyle doesn't know what was going on with Denny's car. As if the media didn't know Kyle was going to be pissed right after that, then they want to go and run to the car like they always do and ask for an interview.

Emil
05-27-2010, 02:08 PM
Let's see.
Let's make a rule change during the year!
The teams with the most resources ,$$$, and support will respond the quickest and benefit the most from it.
Let the buyout continue.
Hmmm...

adamwilkes20
05-27-2010, 05:19 PM
Let's see.
Let's make a rule change during the year!
The teams with the most resources ,$$$, and support will respond the quickest and benefit the most from it.
Let the buyout continue.
Hmmm...

If that were true than Hendrick would be at the pinnacle of domination after the wing was axed and the spoiler was put back into service. Hendrick has BY FAR the most resources in NASCAR, the most $$$ and the most support.

When Toyota entered this sport with the Craftsman Truck Series they made it very clear that they could not and would not approach this in the same why they did other forms of motorsport.

Look at Gibbs in general over the past 5 or 6 years. They always seem to peak at some point then kind of flatten out...It doesnt take much of an advantage anymore to be more successful than the next car in the garage area.

Emil
05-27-2010, 07:10 PM
If that were true than Hendrick would be at the pinnacle of domination after the wing was axed and the spoiler was put back into service. Hendrick has BY FAR the most resources in NASCAR, the most $$$ and the most support.

When Toyota entered this sport with the Craftsman Truck Series they made it very clear that they could not and would not approach this in the same why they did other forms of motorsport.

Look at Gibbs in general over the past 5 or 6 years. They always seem to peak at some point then kind of flatten out...It doesnt take much of an advantage anymore to be more successful than the next car in the garage area.

My vote is Toyota for most resources and $$$ by far.

adamwilkes20
05-27-2010, 07:39 PM
Don't forget that Joe Gibbs racing still builds their own engines...unlike MWR who gets his engines from TRD...

adamwilkes20
05-27-2010, 08:06 PM
My vote is Toyota for most resources and $$$ by far.

As a manufacturer...yes...but they do not own the race teams...and lets face it, there isn't any manufacturer dishing out money in NASCAR right now...who ever gets the best info from their tests, pull down rigs, computer analysis...and can make that info work for them in real time is going to succeed...

Emil
05-27-2010, 08:09 PM
'yota's advertising budget is huge, every freakin' sports event you watch their name is plastered somewhere. I suspect the racing budget is huge too.

adamwilkes20
05-27-2010, 09:38 PM
I would say they are probably right on par with what GM and Ford are spending. Look at Roger Penske and Chip Gannassi...arguably two of the largest Toyota dealership owners in the country, with deep ties to Toyota. If money was being thrown around, why did Gannassi stick with Chevrolet? Now Penske, When they had the option to renew with Dodge, they stuck with them. Rather than going with Toyota...there again, if money was being thrown around like beads at a parade, why didn't he go with them? It could have surely gave Penske more $$$ to invest in a driver better than Brad...

the only 100% factory teams toyota has is MWR and even they rely heavily on info from Gibbs, and they get EVERYTHING from TRD...even Bill Davis Racing when they went to Toyota wasn't 100% Toyota supported, he had his own engine program, like Gibbs...

Where has being 100% Toyota supported gotten MWR? Not very far, their "built by TRD" engines barely last a whole race, but they are turning a corner.

Emil
05-28-2010, 05:30 AM
I'm sure when the spoiler specs were released, TuRD got right on it and gave valuable info to all their teams. Money and R&D go hand in hand, when a business struggles one of the first things to go is the R&D budget.

Don't know what kind of deals 'yota was offering Penske and Gannassi, maybe they were able to look past the $$$$ part.

adamwilkes20
05-28-2010, 08:46 AM
And you think Chevrolet, Ford and Dodge didn't do they same thing with their marquee teams? Some people would be surprised exactly how the info is passed down from the manufacturer to the teams. Not all the info from them is given to each team...just the teams high up on the ladder. Hence why gibbs didn't renew with GM and went with Toyota. they knew they would never get the support with GM that Hendrick and Childress gets, because those team were higher up in the ladder than they were. they wanted to be a flagship team for their manufacturer, getting any info first. So, they went to Toyota and got what they wanted by neing their marquee team. Not, they don't have to wait for info to filter through other teams before it gets to them.

With all the technology and engineers on these race teams now days anyway, most of any R&D is done by the teams themselves...sure wind tunnel time for most teams is handled by the manufacturer (unless you are SHR and Hendrick, since HAAS owns his own rolling wind tunnel) and improving engine design within NASCAR specs falls back on them to some point, then the teams put their info in to help develop the engine. This isn't F1, these teams ares as dependent on manufacturer info, but more rather the info they collect and data they can analyze and dissect.

Emil
05-28-2010, 09:43 AM
And you think Chevrolet, Ford and Dodge didn't do they same thing with their marquee teams?

They absolutely did except TuRD I guarantee has more $$$ to spend on Nascar r&d since they are focusing on it. They want the championship real bad. They bought out the Trucks, Nationwide and are trying with Sprint.

Bottom line is there is a lot going on that we will never hear about which 'yota, as they've proven, is very good at it.

adamwilkes20
05-28-2010, 11:52 AM
They absolutely did except TuRD I guarantee has more $$$ to spend on Nascar r&d since they are focusing on it. They want the championship real bad. They bought out the Trucks, Nationwide and are trying with Sprint.

Bottom line is there is a lot going on that we will never hear about which 'yota, as they've proven, is very good at it.

GM, Ford and Dodge all either cut or lowered factory support of their truck teams a couple years ago..Ford has only one factory team in that series, Both GM and Dodge have zero...that was their manufacturers choice to no longer support those teams to move funding into other parts of their Motorsport programs. Toyota has been in that series since 2004 and they only have two championships since their inception. the other manufacturers simply laid down, while Toyota chose to move forward.

GM gives absolutely no factory support to their nationwide teams...although I am sure Penske gets some from Dodge and I am not too sure about Ford.

So, in my opinion Toyota hasn't bought their way into anything, the rest of the manufacturers are simply cutting back their Motorsports budgets.

Emil
05-28-2010, 02:00 PM
GM, Ford and Dodge all either cut or lowered factory support of their truck teams a couple years ago..Ford has only one factory team in that series, Both GM and Dodge have zero...that was their manufacturers choice to no longer support those teams to move funding into other parts of their Motorsport programs. Toyota has been in that series since 2004 and they only have two championships since their inception. the other manufacturers simply laid down, while Toyota chose to move forward.

GM gives absolutely no factory support to their nationwide teams...although I am sure Penske gets some from Dodge and I am not too sure about Ford.

So, in my opinion Toyota hasn't bought their way into anything, the rest of the manufacturers are simply cutting back their Motorsports budgets.


I guess it's all relative huh.

The reason the support goes away like I mentioned before is $$$.

adamwilkes20
05-28-2010, 02:29 PM
Yeah I understand what you are saying. But most of the support $$$ that GM, Ford and Dodge were putting into NASCAR went away with the troubled economy...it had nothing to do with Toyota being in the sport.

Emil
05-29-2010, 06:09 AM
Yeah I understand what you are saying. But most of the support $$$ that GM, Ford and Dodge were putting into NASCAR went away with the troubled economy...it had nothing to do with Toyota being in the sport.

Agreed, unfortunately 'yota still has the money to support the teams.

adamwilkes20
05-29-2010, 07:27 AM
haha, yeah, pre-sticky gas pedal time...LMAOOOOO

Emil
05-29-2010, 02:42 PM
haha, yeah, pre-sticky gas pedal time...LMAOOOOO

That's it!
They have a trick sticky gas pedal that gives them an advantage :).

adamwilkes20
05-29-2010, 10:36 PM
That's it!
They have a trick sticky gas pedal that gives them an advantage :).

actually, JGR was infact caught by NASCAR a couple years ago in the Nationwide series...altering the gas pedals....hahahaha

adamwilkes20
06-01-2010, 03:43 PM
Ya know that really wasn't a bad race the other night...

18 is # 1
06-02-2010, 07:17 PM
Ya know that really wasn't a bad race the other night...

Any race Jimmie doesn't win.....

Emil
06-07-2010, 05:56 AM
Harvick should be penalized a lap and lot's of money.

Denny owns Pocono, Congrats to him.

adamwilkes20
06-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Harvick should be penalized a lap and lot's of money.

Denny owns Pocono, Congrats to him.
OMG, you are supporting a Yota driver? Someone call the press!!!:D


IMO, I think it was just a racing deal...my prob is with Logano's dad...he needs to have his hard card revoked again, so his son can be his own man. Just like TK said on WindTunnel last night...if you are gonna race with the big boys, you need to leave your dad in the grandstands eating pop corn and drinking a diet coke.

Emil
06-07-2010, 08:12 PM
OMG, you are supporting a Yota driver? Someone call the press!!!:D


Lol
Unfortunately what's right is right no matter what you're drivin'.

Yota's got a bunch of great drivers.

jeanhouston
06-10-2010, 10:39 PM
Did anybody notice that all three of RCR Racing (http://hartfordauto.thehartford.com/Hartford-RCR-Racing)s drivers made it into top ten in Pocono? Im especially glad for Jeff Burton. He needed this boost after Coca Cola 600.

adamwilkes20
06-14-2010, 03:17 PM
RCR is probably the biggest HOT/COLD team in NASCAR and has been for the past couple years. They just never seem to get over that "hump" if you know what I mean.

18 is # 1
10-28-2010, 06:42 AM
Coming down to the wire. Go Denny Go!!!!

Emil
11-22-2010, 06:46 AM
Congrats to JJ <- SUPERMAN :thumbsup:

tcarcio
11-22-2010, 10:10 AM
JJ single handedly making Nascar too predictable.......:2cents

18 is # 1
12-01-2010, 05:37 PM
JJ single handedly making Nascar too predictable.......:2cents

Agreed. I guess I'll be ready again by February.

drbrosco
12-01-2010, 07:56 PM
I WON my Nascar League Championship by 9 points, thats like wining a race by a half a car length!

I know I didn't bother you guys with all my novice Nascar questions this year but thanks for the help you guys, especialy the help 18 is #1 gave me, for the last 2 years as it all sank in & came together this year....I am not a big Nascar fan still, but it's a long 36 week season & was very satisfying to win it all.

I myself was shocked, kinda, to see JJ pull off another title. I thought for sure Hamlin was gonna win it this year.

Emil
12-01-2010, 09:11 PM
USA baby!!!

18 is # 1
12-01-2010, 10:16 PM
USA baby!!!

auto racist

Emil
12-02-2010, 06:22 AM
auto racist

Lol,
And proud of it!

Poorboy
12-02-2010, 12:37 PM
Where is the "stock" in "National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing"?

There hasn't been anything stock about these vehicles for decades, and you can't go buy anything close on the lot.
All the cars used and raced in NASCAR are American made race cars, hand made and fabricated in the United States of America. They are pure American made race cars, plain and simple.

Most "American" cars are all made or in part made outside of the U.S. while many "foreign" cars are made stateside.

Not just the cars...there are a whole lot of sponsors not "made in America" anymore. It's heartbreaking but what can anyone do??? If we love our sport ya gotta take the bad with the good.

Guess I'll be ready for some more in Feb also, but I sure am wondering why one team is so much better than the others or if they all really play by the same set of rules.

Emil
12-02-2010, 05:26 PM
Where is the "stock" in "National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing"?

There hasn't been anything stock about these vehicles for decades, and you can't go buy anything close on the lot.
All the cars used and raced in NASCAR are American made race cars, hand made and fabricated in the United States of America. They are pure American made race cars, plain and simple.

Most "American" cars are all made or in part made outside of the U.S. while many "foreign" cars are made stateside.

Not just the cars...there are a whole lot of sponsors not "made in America" anymore. It's heartbreaking but what can anyone do??? If we love our sport ya gotta take the bad with the good.

Guess I'll be ready for some more in Feb also, but I sure am wondering why one team is so much better than the others or if they all really play by the same set of rules.

Factory development dollars and donations :) are key.

18 is # 1
12-07-2010, 04:44 PM
Where is the "stock" in "National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing"?

There hasn't been anything stock about these vehicles for decades, and you can't go buy anything close on the lot.
All the cars used and raced in NASCAR are American made race cars, hand made and fabricated in the United States of America. They are pure American made race cars, plain and simple.

Most "American" cars are all made or in part made outside of the U.S. while many "foreign" cars are made stateside.

Not just the cars...there are a whole lot of sponsors not "made in America" anymore. It's heartbreaking but what can anyone do??? If we love our sport ya gotta take the bad with the good.

Guess I'll be ready for some more in Feb also, but I sure am wondering why one team is so much better than the others or if they all really play by the same set of rules.

I'm thinking the term is supposed to represent all the cars being "equal" in ability leaving the difference to be the skill of the driver.