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Break In Necessary or Just Common Sense?

machfelon
01-22-2010, 09:27 AM
When I get my Panny G10 next week do I have to run the Break In discs or is just using common sense good enough to break in TV.

For example if I limit viewing to channels with logo's in the corner and change stations to avoid static images for say a week or two wont this accomplish pretty much the same thing as a break in disc?

I have a toddler at home that has to watch his "Sprout" everyday (PBS station with commercials) and so on.

Thanks

RandyWalters
01-22-2010, 12:59 PM
Break-in has no effect on reducing the chance of burn-in, and hasn't since over 5 years ago. Yet the myth is perpetuated ad nauseum.

The only reason one would need to perform a break-in is if the owner was in a rush to have the TV ISF Calibrated, since it takes around 120-200 hours for the phosphors to stabilize (the time is dependent on which procedure was used to break it in).

If you're not having it ISF Calibrated or are not in a hurry to have the panel settle in, it will break itself in just from watching it normally.

Loves2Watch
01-22-2010, 01:02 PM
Break-in has no effect on reducing the chance of burn-in, and hasn't since over 5 years ago. Yet the myth is perpetuated ad nauseum.

The only reason one would need to perform a break-in is if the owner was in a rush to have the TV ISF Calibrated, since it takes around 120-200 hours for the phosphors to stabilize (the time is dependent on which procedure was used to break it in).

If you're not having it ISF Calibrated or are not in a hurry to have the panel settle in, it will break itself in just from watching it normally.

Wrong. Break in does age the panel phosphors evenly and reduces the chance of burn in and image retention.

s2mikey
01-22-2010, 01:58 PM
Wrong. Break in does age the panel phosphors evenly and reduces the chance of burn in and image retention.

I agree to SOME extent. Lets just say that break-in using some ridculous burn-in disc with a bunch of stipulations is completely silly. Using a little common sense during the first few hundred hours is what you really need to do. Just stick with full-screen content for the first week or so. Try to avoid a lot of gaming or back to back to back 2.35:1 movies.

To break in my Pio, I simply ran Discovery HD Theater for about 16 hours a day for a week or so. We still mixed in some regular films and other content. Its been just fine.

pappylap
01-22-2010, 02:16 PM
To break in my Pio

Yeah, but the Pios are top of the food chain.....Image retention and dare I say it Burn-in is much more of an issue with LG, Vizio and to some extent Samsung Plasmas so I would be more break-in conscious with those brands..

s2mikey
01-22-2010, 02:48 PM
Yeah, but the Pios are top of the food chain.....Image retention and dare I say it Burn-in is much more of an issue with LG, Vizio and to some extent Samsung Plasmas so I would be more break-in conscious with those brands..

Yeah, good point there. Either way, a good week or two of full screen content should age the phosphors enough in any modern plasma to help avoid issue down the road.

RandyWalters
01-22-2010, 04:34 PM
Wrong. Break in does age the panel phosphors evenly and reduces the chance of burn in and image retention.Find one post (either here or AVS) from someone who has permanent burn-in on a 2005 or newer Panasonic in a home environment. I haven't seen a single one, and i'm all over the boards. D-Nice and other calibrators and experts have said it has no effect on burn-in, and there is no proof that i know of that failure to do a break-in increases the risk of burn-in.

And the only way to age the phosphors evenly is to use the color images - breaking it in by watching TV with reduced settings doesn't keep things completely even since the content varies so much.

Loves2Watch
01-22-2010, 06:14 PM
Find one post (either here or AVS) from someone who has permanent burn-in on a 2005 or newer Panasonic in a home environment. I haven't seen a single one, and i'm all over the boards. D-Nice and other calibrators and experts have said it has no effect on burn-in, and there is no proof that i know of that failure to do a break-in increases the risk of burn-in.

And the only way to age the phosphors evenly is to use the color images - breaking it in by watching TV with reduced settings doesn't keep things completely even since the content varies so much.

OK then, go buy a new plasma and start watching nothing but a news channel with a ticker at the bottom. Come back in two months and then tell me you have no burn in problems...

Semp1
01-22-2010, 06:23 PM
I have a panasonic plasma I bought for my grandmother put it on very low levels she is older so doesn't care or realize the difference with hidef or standard channels she watched standard channels non stop for the first month with black bars on the side and got burn in and now a year later that burn in is still there. I believe it was a 42 inch S1 Plasma and that was a 2009 model. So there you go. Burn in is very much real not at all exagerated and if you're not super careful you will get it. It's one of the risks of buying a plasma. Anyone who knows even a little about the technology and isn't just a biased fanboy will honestly tell you if you're not the kind of person who can restrain what you watch for at least the first 100 hours you will get burn in. Just go to a hidef cable station with no emblems put it on zoom and let it run for 10 hours a day when you're at work.