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EA Pulling the Plug on Older Sports Servers

eiger
01-04-2010, 04:09 PM
From Joystiq -

It's a new year, and the hammer must fall once more on the EA games that the company has deemed "unfit" to play. But the server shutdowns (which are traditionally closer to the middle of the year) are earlier than ever this time (beginning February 2), so fans of Facebreaker, Fantasy Football 09, Fight Night Round 3 on PS2, and many other soon-to-be retired online sports games have little time to achieve their last feats of glory.

We've got the full list of server shutdowns -- courtesy of MCV -- after the break. Let us know if you're still playing any of the games getting the axe.


February 2, 2010 Online Service Shutdown

UEFA Champions League 07 (PC and Xbox 360)
Facebreaker (Xbox 360 and PS3)
Fantasy Football 09 (Xbox 360 and PS3)
FIFA 07 (PSP, PS2, PC)
Fight Night Round 3 (PS2)
Madden 08 (Wii)
Madden 08 (PC)
Madden 09 (Xbox)
Madden 09 (Wii and PSP)
March Madness 07 (Xbox 360)
NBA 07 (PSP, Xbox 360)
NBA 08 (PS2, PSP, Wii )
NBA 09 (Wii) [Europe only]
NBA Street (2007) (PS3 and Xbox 360)
NCAA Football 08 (PS2)
NCAA Football 09 (PS2)
NASCAR 08 (PS2)
NASCAR 09 (PS2)
NASCAR 09 (PS3 and Xbox 360) [Europe Only]
NFL Tour (PS3 and Xbox 360)
NHL 07 (PSP and Xbox 360)
NHL 08 (PC)
Tiger Woods 07 (PC)
Madden 09 (Xbox 360 and PS3)
Madden 07 (Xbox 360)

April 1, 2009 Online Service Shutdown

FIFA 07 (Xbox)
Madden NFL 07 (PlayStation Portable)
Madden NFL 07 (Xbox)
Madden NFL 07 (PC)
Madden NFL 07 (PlayStation 2)
Madden NFL 07 (PlayStation 3)
Madden NFL 08 (PlayStation Portable)
Madden NFL 08 (Xbox)
NASCAR 08 (PlayStation 3)
NASCAR 08 (Xbox 360)
NBA LIVE 08 (PC)
NCAA Football 08 (Xbox)
NHL 08 (PS2)
Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 06 (PC)
Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 08 (PSP)
Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 08 (PS2


I'm not big into sports game, but it's still a big dose of FAIL

Love that achievement in NBA2K7 for "1000 gamers online simultaneously".

Yah, too bad you never even really got that many peeps online. You guys make a few good games, but some of your business practices suck balls.

kamspy
01-04-2010, 04:51 PM
They could be chaps about it and patch in console hosting. But :haha: at that idea. The hardware is capable of it though.

Oh well, that's why there are 3,000 lines of fine print on the back of game boxes this gen.

Madden 09 is a big burn though. I know plenty of guys who buy last year's madden religiously($20<$60).


More proof that Return to Castle Wolfenstein for the original xbox is hands down objectively the most fully featured online console game in history.

For shame. But leave it to id to show you guys the shower.;)

GLOW
01-04-2010, 05:20 PM
EA said this way way back and iirc everyone on this board was up in arms with it. I never thought EA would actually go through with it but can anyone here honestly tell me they still play 07 sports games? I agree with the 08 and 09s.

Make way for Medal of Honor online :yippee:

kamspy
01-04-2010, 05:22 PM
I'm fine with 07 and back, but even cutting 08 is a creep move.

It's not like the servers are even hosting the game, they're just matchmaking servers. They could use a modded out iPhone for that.

This is a new step in cheapness.

Cygnus
01-05-2010, 12:29 AM
Caveat emptor... the reason I buy as few EA games as possible. Most servers, esp game servers, are virtual. So the costs are minimal

MikeRox
01-05-2010, 08:08 AM
Tried posting this yesterday but HDF wouldn't let me upload threads for some reason at that point.

For the most part, it makes sense, though it is crippling games that can still be purchased brand new at retail and so could breach trade descriptions on that. However NASCAR 09 on PS3/360 in Europe? Given that there is no NASCAR 10 and we can't use US servers (or play with US gamers on EA titles) that is an absolute shitter.

Thinking about it, I never realised until this that you couldn't play EA games against other territories, that would explain why having purchased the DLC, I was unable to get any vs matches on Army of Two going at all (nobody playing, and this was the 360 ver, so god knows how deserted the PS3 servers were)

eiger
01-05-2010, 01:36 PM
Tried posting this yesterday but HDF wouldn't let me upload threads for some reason at that point.

For the most part, it makes sense, though it is crippling games that can still be purchased brand new at retail and so could breach trade descriptions on that. However NASCAR 09 on PS3/360 in Europe? Given that there is no NASCAR 10 and we can't use US servers (or play with US gamers on EA titles) that is an absolute shitter.

Thinking about it, I never realised until this that you couldn't play EA games against other territories, that would explain why having purchased the DLC, I was unable to get any vs matches on Army of Two going at all (nobody playing, and this was the 360 ver, so god knows how deserted the PS3 servers were)

What rubs me the wrong way is EA makes a SHITLOAD of money each year. I know a little about IT Ops and server maintenance and the amount they are saving by retiring 25 odd severs or whatever it is is completely insignificant. Petty.

PFC5
01-05-2010, 01:48 PM
We have Madden NFL 07 and i see no reason to keep buying these each year just to get the new teams. Maybe that is why they are dropping the servers to force people to upgrade.

kamspy
01-05-2010, 03:13 PM
We have Madden NFL 07 and i see no reason to keep buying these each year just to get the new teams. Maybe that is why they are dropping the servers to force people to upgrade.

I think that's why they stopped releasing Madden on PC too. With user mods and user updated rosters, it really made skipping the next installment easier.

I've still got Madden 08 installed and with the right pack of mods and roster updates it's a great game. Just wish it had the Pro-Tak animation/collision that's in 10.

railven
01-05-2010, 03:15 PM
I think that's why they stopped releasing Madden on PC too. With user mods and user updated rosters, it really made skipping the next installment easier.

I've still got Madden 08 installed and with the right pack of mods and roster updates it's a great game. Just wish it had the Pro-Tak animation/collision that's in 10.

Add to that direct connect (LAN) and programs like Hamachi, the need for EA servers was dissolved.

EA needs to make money some where, might as well axe unsupported games.

kamspy
01-05-2010, 03:32 PM
I don't think axing the online play in those games is going to make people run out and buy the new versions. If anything, considering the motivation of the people who were buying last year's version, it would be a deterrent.

MikeRox
01-06-2010, 05:26 AM
Basically, they're in the business of selling services, as your link the the MW2 piracy thread said Kam.

I think they're going to move onto making these games more of a subscription based model where you buy a main disc (possibly for less?) then keeping it all up to date falls into microtransactions and paying a sub for online play.

railven
01-06-2010, 07:35 AM
Basically, they're in the business of selling services, as your link the the MW2 piracy thread said Kam.

I think they're going to move onto making these games more of a subscription based model where you buy a main disc (possibly for less?) then keeping it all up to date falls into microtransactions and paying a sub for online play.

I've had a similar idea for my fantasy game world where I run a giant corporation! :D (Come on, we all know we fantasy of the sort haha.)

Anyways, I handle sports games similar to what Mike has posted.

You basically buy a game engine (for half the price of a full game.) And this game engine is designed to handle certain "sports" code.

After buying the engine, you no longer have to buy it again, and update to the code is done through patches. You see a sports game you like and you buy the "sports pak" for that sport. For again, a fraction of a price of a full retail game. Let's say using today's prices:
The engine would cost $40, and the Paks would cost $20.

So, you are a hockey, football, and baseball fan. The engine pretty much runs all three (as the engine is designed to handle real world physics and the sort) and the paks each have sport specific content (probably more jersey physics for baseball etc) and you have all 3 games for only $100 versus the $180 it would cost you now.

Roster updates are handled through DLC for $10 a year. So, at the end of the hardware series you've only spent like $220 for three sports games, kept up to date, over 4 years Versus $720 with today's system.

I think that is a good way to handle sports games.

MikeRox
01-06-2010, 08:22 AM
It's much cheaper all around too as it costs the developer and publisher no where near as much either, the party that lose out are the retailers for which while I have empathy for the workers, I have no sympathy towards the actual companies as they have gouged the public for well over a decade paying joke "trade in prices" then selling at barely below new cost.