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DIRECTV and integrated HDTV tuners

Robert Bean
08-04-2005, 07:37 PM
I am going to DIRECTV. I am feed up with cable. But as with all services provided, one needs forums like this to get correct answers.

I have a Toshiba 52HM94 DLP TV. It's great on many channels, but the digitally enhanced stuff is crap. They ruin SciFi and many other channels they place on that band. Like putting 87 octane into a sports car.
It is not a problem with the TV.

What I would like to have explained is the need for a specific satellite box.

With the integrated HD tuner in my set (ATSC/QAM tuner), do I need a DIRECTV HD receiver for HDTV, including local HD channels?
I also have a Toshiba RS-TX60 DVD/DVR. This is a TiVo 2 series,
I emailed Directv customer service and they refered to having an HD 'ready' tv. They did not acknowlege the 'integrated' tuner, which is a subject that retailers and service providers don't like to differenciate. It's not the same thing.
Do I need a HD box for satellite, if I have integrated HD tuners already. They want another $200 for the DIRECTV HD receiver.
Boston

Fl_Gulfer
08-04-2005, 09:08 PM
The only thing the Intergrated Tuner is for is Local feeds ( Antenna On House), You still need a HD Receiver to get Sat. TV

kate55
08-05-2005, 08:21 AM
I can't believe your question is the SAME as mine. Here's what we did...
JVC HD52G886 D-ILA. Hooked up to DirectTV with a standard (not HD) reciever. (got the 29.99 special for 3 months for the mid-package lineup plus 2 other rooms- $4.99/mo/ea.) Then hooked up an antenna to the rooftop (exterior) and into the ATSC jack on back of TV (Dish cable is in the uhf/vhf jack) Now we will get the satellite package, and when a good HD program is broadcast on a major network, we can switch to the antenna (the D/A button on your remote). All you have to do after your antenna is hooked up, is click on your remote's menu button, then go to Auto Tuner Setup, then highlight Tuner mode <ATSC> and click ok to start. It will scan your antenna reception, and wa-la, you'll have HD for those special broadcasts.
Best of luck!

RSawdey
08-05-2005, 11:32 AM
I am going to DIRECTV. I am feed up with cable. But as with all services provided, one needs forums like this to get correct answers.

I have a Toshiba 52HM94 DLP TV. It's great on many channels, but the digitally enhanced stuff is crap. They ruin SciFi and many other channels they place on that band. Like putting 87 octane into a sports car.
It is not a problem with the TV.

What I would like to have explained is the need for a specific satellite box.

With the integrated HD tuner in my set (ATSC/QAM tuner), do I need a DIRECTV HD receiver for HDTV, including local HD channels?
I also have a Toshiba RS-TX60 DVD/DVR. This is a TiVo 2 series,
I emailed Directv customer service and they refered to having an HD 'ready' tv. They did not acknowlege the 'integrated' tuner, which is a subject that retailers and service providers don't like to differenciate. It's not the same thing.
Do I need a HD box for satellite, if I have integrated HD tuners already. They want another $200 for the DIRECTV HD receiver.
Boston

SDTV, even when digitally transmitted, is only 480 lines res... this max's out at DVD quality, which is still only 480 line SDTV or EDTV. You may want to consider the various work arounds used to improve the quality of SD, if you are not satisfied with the digital video output of your HD STB.

You MUST upgrade to an HD version of Sat STB, since HD signals can only be carried over an HDMI/DVI or Component connection. SVideo, Composite, and RF over Coax are strictly analog NTSC limited.

Your internal ATSC digital television tuner is not at all compatible with Satellite... different frequency range & modulation type. Digital tuners all receive OTA broadcasts, but have varied in their support for digital cable. First gen didn't support it, second gen added QAM modulation support (kind used with digital cable) but can't handle any encryption. Third gen added CAbleCard support to handle unscrambling.

Your DVD burner & Tivo are of limited usefullness since they can ONLY support SDTV... no way to upgrade or enhance them.

Your new HDTV Sat STB will ALSO have a built in ATSC OTA tuner, so you'll have 2 HD OTA sources as well as HD Sat... if your TV supports it, you can PIP in HD...

RSawdey
08-05-2005, 11:38 AM
I can't believe your question is the SAME as mine. Here's what we did...
JVC HD52G886 D-ILA. Hooked up to DirectTV with a standard (not HD) reciever. (got the 29.99 special for 3 months for the mid-package lineup plus 2 other rooms- $4.99/mo/ea.) Then hooked up an antenna to the rooftop (exterior) and into the ATSC jack on back of TV (Dish cable is in the uhf/vhf jack) Now we will get the satellite package, and when a good HD program is broadcast on a major network, we can switch to the antenna (the D/A button on your remote). All you have to do after your antenna is hooked up, is click on your remote's menu button, then go to Auto Tuner Setup, then highlight Tuner mode <ATSC> and click ok to start. It will scan your antenna reception, and wa-la, you'll have HD for those special broadcasts.
Best of luck!

You need HD capable Sat equiptment (D* STB) to receive their HDTV channels... as WELL as a subscription.

Your use of the RF over Coax to connect your SD STB to your TV is the WORST possible connection quality. You should replace that connection with SVideo + Stereo audio cables to avoid passing thru the TV's tuner... go direct to a video input.

Voila! (French, 'there it is!' or 'see it there!').