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Ok...I'm convinced, its a Plasma, but...

HDTB
12-22-2009, 07:47 PM
Hi...noobie to the board here. I've been looking at a new TV for about 8 months now. I used to think LCD was were I was going to go, but I've read most of the sticky threads above and have been converted from a LCD to a plasma. But...now the question I have is which one? I've tried to find the Pioneer TVs that everyone is raving about, but I can't find any sellers except BB(selling the 60"), but that's out of my price range. Here are the answers to the questions that are required:

1. How far away will you be from the display when watching it? (Be as exact as possible. A 5' range difference IS a major difference - Please limit the range to 2')
Between 9-11' depending on whether I'm leaning forward or back (mostly back)

2. What TV will it be replacing (i.e. 27" tube TV, etc) (include TV age as well)
I don't even remember what the name of the TV is, but it's a 42" Sony from 2002 720p HDTV and has a really big back.

3. What will you be watching on it (i.e. 1/3 movies, 1/3 TV shows, 1/6 Sports, 1/6 gaming console, etc)
Mostly sports(ESPN is on a lot) and blu-ray movies. Also, I pretty much only watch the HD channels on my cable box, i.e. History HD, Discovery HD, Food Network HD, etc...

4. Will a computer be connected to use the display as a monitor? If so, what percent of the time?
No.

5. Will you be getting a Blu-ray player to watch movies and will you be getting any HD service from cable/sat, or will you just be watching SD programming, and an upscaling SD DVD player?
Yes...blu-ray and have an HD-DVR through my cable company.

6. Are you looking for the best in class display, the best bargain display, or best bang for the buck in the middle display?
Looking for the best picture, which I've determined is Plasma based on reading these threads.

7. What is the room lighting situation? (i.e. can you control the lighting? Can you use light blocking blinds, etc to control it?)
I have a large sliding glass door to the right, which almost always has the blinds covering it. Very occasionally do I open them. I have two lamps on the right and left of my couch that are always on(at night), but I can turn one of them off if necessary.

8. What is your budget range?
<$3,000, preferably <$2,500

9. Will people be watching at multiple viewing angles or just usually one person sitting directly in the center?
Mostly just me on the couch and anyone else that wants to be on the couch in front of the TV.

10. When will most viewing be done on the display (i.e. Daytime or after sunset)?
Mostly after sunset, but sometimes during the day. My work schedule is pretty nice. :D

Here's the websites I was looking at for these(board won't let me post links until I have 5 posts :rolleyes:) But I've been looking at the Best Buy site(under Energy Star and Plasma filters) and HHGregg under the Plasma TV filter listings. I've read that Panasonics seem to be the best, above LG and Samsung, but then which one? Its nearly too much. :)
Any suggestions are much appreciated.

PFC5
12-22-2009, 08:29 PM
Since you will be watching a lot of BD movies I would say the P54V10 is the top choice, but the P54G10 or P58G10 are excellent choices as well based on your viewing distances.

HiDefRev
12-22-2009, 09:44 PM
I have to agree with PFC5 on this. Any of those will fit you perfectly. Panasonic makes, by far, the best plasmas on the market today. You won't be disappointed !! :D

HDTB
12-23-2009, 06:36 AM
Thanks guys. Now I only need to get a blu-ray player and a surround system.

What do you guys think of this from Best Buy, its a complete system with the TV, blu-ray and surround system? I can't post the link yet, but its on the BB site. Cost is $2000

Panasonic 58" Class Plasma HDTV and Blu-ray Home Theater System Package
SKU: 9999122600050000

Includes:
Panasonic - VIERA / 58" Class / 1080p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV
Model: TC-P58S1 | SKU: 9431279

Panasonic - 1000W 7.1-Channel Home Theater System with Blu-ray Disc Player
Model: SC-BT200 | SKU: 9330921

CrAkD
12-23-2009, 07:53 AM
If your watching alot of bluray you prob want proper 24p playback which is basicly only available in the v10 and to a limited degree on the g10 the s1 you linked doesn't support it

jkkyler
12-23-2009, 07:56 AM
I also would reccomend either the G10 or V10 models. Also I would look at an onkyo HTS 6100, 6200, 7100, or 7200. They are much better HTIB than any others you will find in that price range.

tcarcio
12-23-2009, 08:43 AM
Not to hijack the thread but what do you guy's think about this...http://www.bernies.com/catalog/televisions/flat_panel/069643_panasonic_black_50_viera_x1_series_plasma_7 20p_hdtv.html

pappylap
12-23-2009, 08:46 AM
Not to hijack the thread but what do you guy's think about this...http://www.bernies.com/catalog/televisions/flat_panel/069643_panasonic_black_50_viera_x1_series_plasma_7 20p_hdtv.html

Gotta' love all that monster stuff they are pushin' with the TV......:lol:

Monster® Gray 2M HDMI 700hd High Speed HDMI Cable
Monster Cable
$79.99

tcarcio
12-23-2009, 08:49 AM
[QUOTE=pappylap;978879]Gotta' love all that monster stuff they are pushin' with the TV......:lol:

Fortunatly we know better.

SantaPimp27
12-23-2009, 11:29 AM
i would get the 58" v10. you could go 65" from your range but its out of your price range for the v10. best buy did have the 58" for $2800 a couple of weeks ago

HDTB
12-26-2009, 11:24 AM
Ok gentlemen...thanks to your advice this is what I'm planning on, I'd appreciate your final advice regarding the whole system and some final questions at the bottom.

Panasonic - VIERA / 58" Class / 1080p / 600Hz / Plasma HDTV
Model: TC-P58V10

Sanus - VisionMount Tilting Wall Mount For Most 30" - 60" Flat-Panel TVs - Black Model: LT25-B1
or
Init® - TV Stand for Flat-Panel TVs Up to 58" - Cherry Model: NT-MG302 (leaning more towards this than mount)

Sony - PlayStation 3 (120GB)
Model: 98017

Onyko 1200-Watt 7.1 Channel Home Theater
Model No: HTS6200

I plan to get some cheap HDMI cables from eBay or Amazon. I'm assuming I need about 3(one from the PS3 to the TV, one from the PS3 to the Onyko and one from the TV to the Onyko) is that right?

Unfortunately, the Onyko system I have to get from HHGregg and the TV and stand from Best Buy because BB doesn't sell the Onyko system. I forgot to mention that my couch is sitting flush against the back wall. Will that matter with the surround system? And the final issue since I'm mounting the TV is that I probably need a piece of furniture to hold the PlayStation and the Theater system. Do you guys have a suggestion for this? Thanks a lot this board is great.

CrAkD
12-26-2009, 02:52 PM
get your mount and cables from monoprice. muchhhh cheaper.

mytime
12-26-2009, 02:56 PM
get your mount and cables from monoprice. muchhhh cheaper.

Correct. I got 2 wall mounts from monoprice for under $50.

HDTB
12-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Thanks. I decided not to get the mount. I'm going to go with the TV stand instead. I think it'll be better from a viewing perspective for me.

I was reading somewhere, I think on CNET, that the optical audio output from TVs isn't in 7.1 and only at 5.1. So what's the point of having the Onkyo 7.1 if the TV can't even export that type of signal? Is there another way to get 7.1 surround?

curewins
12-27-2009, 04:05 PM
boo to the tv stand :P

curewins
12-27-2009, 04:07 PM
i woulda gone with the mount if i was you i love mine

HDTB
12-27-2009, 04:51 PM
I understand, but if I mount the TV its going to be another 2-3' away and I don't really want to put huge holes in my apartment's wall. So I think the stand will work out fine.

I checked the BB website and even called them and they told me that the 58" and 54" V10s are out of stock right now. :( I'm probably going to have to settle for the 50" instead which is in stock.

I think it'll be okay though because I'm watching a 42" right now and it looks fine, I think that a 50" will be okay too, it just won't be HUGE like I wanted.

CrAkD
12-27-2009, 09:06 PM
Thanks. I decided not to get the mount. I'm going to go with the TV stand instead. I think it'll be better from a viewing perspective for me.

I was reading somewhere, I think on CNET, that the optical audio output from TVs isn't in 7.1 and only at 5.1. So what's the point of having the Onkyo 7.1 if the TV can't even export that type of signal? Is there another way to get 7.1 surround?

you want to get your Surround sound/high def sound from your Bluray/ DVD player not your tv. only sound youd be getting from your tv is sound from another source passed thru anyway.

pappylap
12-27-2009, 09:21 PM
Yeah you need to hook the blu-ray to the receiver if it is 7.1 compliant it doesnt matter what your TV thinks...

Rick-F
12-28-2009, 12:36 PM
Thanks. I decided not to get the mount. I'm going to go with the TV stand instead. I think it'll be better from a viewing perspective for me.

I was reading somewhere, I think on CNET, that the optical audio output from TVs isn't in 7.1 and only at 5.1. So what's the point of having the Onkyo 7.1 if the TV can't even export that type of signal? Is there another way to get 7.1 surround?

Most audio receivers get their auto input from the same source as the TV gets its video: the BR Player or the STB-- NOT from the TV.

HDTB
12-28-2009, 09:08 PM
Ok, thanks about the audio part. I'm going to get a PS3 so that'll work for the 7.1 output.

The 58" Panasonic plasma is still sold out on Best Buy.

What do you guys think about the Samsung plasmas? Are they comparable? This one is available on the Dell site.

Samsung 58-inch PN58B860

PFC5
12-28-2009, 10:19 PM
That Samsung plasma is a nice one, but I chose Panasonic because of their history of being more reliable, better customer service and the Panasonic plasmas are more resistant to image retention than the Samsung plasmas.

If those things are not very important then the Samsung is a fine choice.