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All Things Dragon Age!

KEEBS1984
11-01-2009, 02:33 PM
This is it guys! The RPG of the year is finally getting released this week.

Three reviews live for the PC:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/dragonageorigins

No reviews yet for the consoles, unfortunately, they will probably start arriving tomorrow.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/dragonageorigins
http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/dragonageorigins

Let's keep all discussion, reviews, etc in one spot so as not to flood the forums.

So whose getting the game?

marcallo
11-01-2009, 03:14 PM
I bought the steam collectors pack pre-order so I can have the cool armor in ME2. :D

kamspy
11-01-2009, 03:30 PM
Steam.

Did you create this poll just to expose the dirty console peasants? Who buys a game like Dragon Age on a console? Dane Cook maybe, but certainly no one with good sense.

:p

KEEBS1984
11-01-2009, 03:36 PM
Steam.

Did you create this poll just to expose the dirty console peasants? Who buys a game like Dragon Age on a console? Dane Cook maybe, but certainly no one with good sense.

:p

Hur hur hur! :p

Seriously, I'm looking for the console experience on this one. Baldur's Gate was not my style of RPG. :o I'm hoping it'll lay similar to Mass Effect. :D

marcallo
11-01-2009, 05:20 PM
ME was SOOOO much better on the PC. Yeah it had it's hurdles to jump through like any PC game. But mouse and keyboard along with binding powers to 1-8 or whatever = WIN. Unless you were playing ME1 as a soldier I found it mind numbing to have to fumble through powers on the 360 but loved it on the PC.

Mase
11-01-2009, 07:26 PM
You PC guys have fun with your hurdles (Borderlands anyone) as I will be enjoying this laying down on my couch, with my 8k home theater system.. Who is the peasant now??

Cygnus
11-01-2009, 07:46 PM
I am with ma$e on this one. For me PC gaming is dead. But are u seriously hoping for a wii port? :D Not sure I will buy the game, hopefully there will be a demo.

kamspy
11-01-2009, 07:47 PM
You PC guys have fun with your hurdles (Borderlands anyone) as I will be enjoying this laying down on my couch, with my 8k home theater system.. Who is the peasant now??

:lol:

Bioware =\= Gearbox


The games is already out there. It's a console -> PC port. Not the fake kind like Randy Pitchford sold a bunch of people, but a real life old school PC game, and it's casual console friendly port.

marcallo
11-01-2009, 09:06 PM
great I posted a really nice response and the server ate it. So I'll just say I try to ride the fence between PC gaming and Console gaming and where one fails the other succeeds. Just depends on what your looking for in the particular game.

railven
11-02-2009, 06:48 AM
You PC guys have fun with your hurdles (Borderlands anyone) as I will be enjoying this laying down on my couch, with my 8k home theater system.. Who is the peasant now??

Just 8k? Well, than, I guess you win huh - peasant! :p

Haha, my Gaming rig alone is close to the 4K mark. Add in the TV, the surround system, and you know...:D

:p

marcallo
11-02-2009, 09:33 AM
I thought maybe he meant 8K resomolution or something. Because if he's bragging about spending 8K on an HT system, that's the price of a good set of speakers...

MikeRox
11-02-2009, 09:44 AM
great I posted a really nice response and the server ate it. So I'll just say I try to ride the fence between PC gaming and Console gaming and where one fails the other succeeds. Just depends on what your looking for in the particular game.

But thats boring! RAH Console gaming! :D

I was half way towards getting a decent PC gaming rig... then I bought a PSP Go :lol: (they're over $300 here) We've moved the furniature around though, and there is now an ideal space to plonk a decent PC setup... PC gaming is looking extremely tempting.

Mase
11-02-2009, 09:54 AM
Just 8k? Well, than, I guess you win huh - peasant! :p

Haha, my Gaming rig alone is close to the 4K mark. Add in the TV, the surround system, and you know...:D

:p

I thought maybe he meant 8K resomolution or something. Because if he's bragging about spending 8K on an HT system, that's the price of a good set of speakers...

That is just my speakers ;)

I will be playing this game while relaxing on my couch, while the majority of PC gamers will be hunched over their kb/m..

awol
11-02-2009, 10:44 AM
I'm kind of torn. I want to play this from the comfort of my couch. But I saw some video of it running on 360 and I was not impressed by how much back and forth of menus there was. It's just not seamless on the 360 like it would be if it were on the PC.

This would be the first game I play on the new iMac thru bootcamp too. So that means I'd have to procure a copy of Windows and install it, blah blah blah...

eiger
11-02-2009, 11:32 AM
Does anyone have links to videos that show actual combat and the menu system? I watched the trailier, but it certanily didn't look like actual gameplay.

After reading several articles I can't tell if the system is more Final Fantasy, ME, Diablo, Borderlands or what. No idea.

Pinoy
11-02-2009, 12:16 PM
That is just my speakers ;)

I will be playing this game while relaxing on my couch, while the majority of PC gamers will be hunched over their kb/m..

Dunno... I suppose most PC gamers than can afford $8k speakers probably won't be playing on their PC hunched over hugging the screen. But I digress, I play on whatever platform I can get my hands on.

kamspy
11-02-2009, 01:54 PM
Console peasantry has nothing to do with the price of the system. It's the piece of mind that brings people to spend $1 per GB of storage space in 2009. $50 a year for the right to play P2P games on your own internet connection. $100 for a wireless adapter. $60 on a game.


So when someone says 'console peasant' they're not calling you financially poor, just mentally.:p

eiger
11-02-2009, 02:53 PM
So when someone says 'console peasant' they're not calling you financially poor, just mentally.:p

So in like terms a 'PC peasant' would be defined as someone who has the perception of saving $$ over console owners, only to realize they are constantly upgrading video cards or dealing with driver issues. :lol:

Pinoy
11-02-2009, 03:16 PM
So in like terms a 'PC peasant' would be defined as someone who has the perception of saving $$ over console owners, only to realize they are constantly upgrading video cards or dealing with driver issues. :lol:

PC peasants paying less per game, getting free DLC and mods, getting in game extras and goodies like in the upcoming battlefield game, being able to host their own dedicated servers, and (usually) having software that scales to their hardware reasonably?

Doesn't sound like peasantry to me :lol:

I'll say it: Console gaming is like bracket racing where everybody is shuffled into an even playing field... PC gaming is more like run what ya brung, even comes with all the technical difficulties.

(BTW you don't *have* to upgrade your hardware constantly, and the money PC gamers typically save on purchasing games and DLC over two years will pay for a nice little upgrade every once in awhile)

Just my :2cents

eiger
11-02-2009, 03:47 PM
PC peasants paying less per game, getting free DLC and mods, getting in game extras and goodies like in the upcoming battlefield game, being able to host their own dedicated servers, and (usually) having software that scales to their hardware reasonably?

Doesn't sound like peasantry to me :lol:

I'll say it: Console gaming is like bracket racing where everybody is shuffled into an even playing field... PC gaming is more like run what ya brung, even comes with all the technical difficulties.

(BTW you don't *have* to upgrade your hardware constantly, and the money PC gamers typically save on purchasing games and DLC over two years will pay for a nice little upgrade every once in awhile)

Just my :2cents

Sadly, I missed out on maybe 10 years of titles because I've been a console dweller my whole life. TF, Half-Life, Unreal, KOTOR. Haven't played any of em. (Except Everquest). The games I have played, I am gimped on a keyboard. Hell, I didn't even know about Steam until today. That's the hole I've lived in. Although thinking about throwing L4D on my PC upstairs to see how much "better" the experience is.

I'm considering building an HTPC in the coming month or two, and it would be sweet to hook it up to the projector and 110" of goodness. Doesn't help that I'm also an achievement whore, and something would always steer me to the 360 version so I could whore up those achievements. :D

marcallo
11-02-2009, 03:49 PM
I thought this whole PC Vs. Console thing was a dead argument in an age where most of us own a gaming PC, 2 consoles, and a DS or a PSP? Seriously, play with what you like. For THIS game in particular I will say PC is the better choice, you don't have to agree. But name calling doesn't seem necessary.

Pinoy
11-02-2009, 04:22 PM
Sadly, I missed out on maybe 10 years of titles because I've been a console dweller my whole life. TF, Half-Life, Unreal, KOTOR. Haven't played any of em. (Except Everquest). The games I have played, I am gimped on a keyboard. Hell, I didn't even know about Steam until today. That's the hole I've lived in. Although thinking about throwing L4D on my PC upstairs to see how much "better" the experience is.

I'm considering building an HTPC in the coming month or two, and it would be sweet to hook it up to the projector and 110" of goodness. Doesn't help that I'm also an achievement whore, and something would always steer me to the 360 version so I could whore up those achievements. :D
PC's are fun, but all in all they are just another platform to play on gamewise and like all platfroms it has it's own set of good and bad things. As Marcallo says below "play with what you like", it's the best advice ever ;)
I thought this whole PC Vs. Console thing was a dead argument in an age where most of us own a gaming PC, 2 consoles, and a DS or a PSP? Seriously, play with what you like. For THIS game in particular I will say PC is the better choice, you don't have to agree. But name calling doesn't seem necessary.

I think the name calling in here is in jest (at least partially...)

railven
11-02-2009, 06:37 PM
I thought this whole PC Vs. Console thing was a dead argument in an age where most of us own a gaming PC, 2 consoles, and a DS or a PSP? Seriously, play with what you like. For THIS game in particular I will say PC is the better choice, you don't have to agree. But name calling doesn't seem necessary.

Silence peasant!!! (I'm aware you prefer the PC version, hehe)

It's all in good fun. With the console war settling down we needed something else to fight about haha. So it became the platform war. Or something.

I've been a consoler longer than a PC'er, but this gen hands down the PC side won. Don't want to use a KB+M? Most games support 360 controllers out of the box (especially if its a Games for Windows title) and with a free USB driver you can use your Dualshock 3 (with rumble and Sixaxis support - BT is another can of worms) on it too. HDMI is the end all to "ZOMG what wire do I use" syndrome. Add to that probably 98% of all the 360's "exclusives" are on it and the PS3's exclusives only started the shine recently and welps...PC wins hands down :D

marcallo
11-02-2009, 07:34 PM
This peasant just started his pre-load. 2.7mb/s hopefully the de-encrypt goes quickly tomorrow. I want to be playing this game the SECOND I get home from work. :D

KEEBS1984
11-02-2009, 07:36 PM
Just found out that my game, being shipped by Amazon, won't arrive until Monday, November 9th!! :crying::crying:

Never again... ever... ever ever ever.

Mase
11-02-2009, 11:36 PM
Just found out that my game, being shipped by Amazon, won't arrive until Monday, November 9th!! :crying::crying:

Never again... ever... ever ever ever.

Amazon has dropped the ball recently on day and date delivery, they are the best bet when it comes to online purchases but dont expect day and date for some time..

MikeRox
11-03-2009, 05:19 AM
Just found out that my game, being shipped by Amazon, won't arrive until Monday, November 9th!! :crying::crying:

Never again... ever... ever ever ever.

Now you know how PC Gamers normally feel :lol:

It's odd as the UK Amazon ship things to arrive on or before release. All online retailers tend to do that for pre orders here though. My Girlfriend's Take That Singstar disc (released on Friday) has shipped today, and so should arrive on Thursday assuming it doesn't get caught up in the postal strike action thats going on here.

eiger
11-03-2009, 09:29 AM
:confused:

"The differences between versions aren't limited to the interface. Dragon Age doesn't look amazing on the PC, but it's an attractive game nonetheless. Zooming from an isometric view to a third-person perspective is slick, and while environments don't hold up quite as well when viewed up close, they're consistently lovely when viewed from above. On the flip side, the Xbox 360 version looks positively disappointing. Textures are highly compressed and colors are washed out, though the upside is that this version maintains a smoother frame rate than on the PlayStation. The PC version is the superior experience, but if you're choosing between the two console releases, the PlayStation 3 has the upper hand."

awol
11-03-2009, 09:37 AM
:confused:
The PC version is the superior experience, but if you're choosing between the two console releases, the PlayStation 3 has the upper hand."

I would imagine it had something to do with the limitations of the storage medium. The PC requirements stated the game would need 20 GB of HDD space. While the PC can decompress everything back to it's original beauty, the 360 only has a limited amount of resources to work with. The PS3 on the other hand doesn't have to worry as much about the compression, so can keep everything looking purdier without having to compress at all or at least as much.

KEEBS1984
11-03-2009, 09:42 AM
:confused:

"The differences between versions aren't limited to the interface. Dragon Age doesn't look amazing on the PC, but it's an attractive game nonetheless. Zooming from an isometric view to a third-person perspective is slick, and while environments don't hold up quite as well when viewed up close, they're consistently lovely when viewed from above. On the flip side, the Xbox 360 version looks positively disappointing. Textures are highly compressed and colors are washed out, though the upside is that this version maintains a smoother frame rate than on the PlayStation. The PC version is the superior experience, but if you're choosing between the two console releases, the PlayStation 3 has the upper hand."

Oh that's disappointing. Maybe I should have gotten it for the PS3 or PC after all... :o

I haven't seen it yet so I don't know if it's true or not, but come on BioWare. Get your shit together. You've been programming games for Microsoft's platform for how long? 7 years? You should know how to work the system almost as well as Microsoft themselves... :mad:

railven
11-03-2009, 09:42 AM
20GBs? Holy cow! What kind of textures is this game full of?

I guess I'll have to clear some content on the server if I were to get this one (GF wants it, I'm still not enticed.)

MikeRox
11-03-2009, 09:46 AM
If I ever get my student loan... I'm getting myself a nice PC gaming rig :thumbsup: this looks like a game that needs to be played on a PC. Review on Kotaku says the console versions plod along at about 20fps *BLEH!* when not much is happening and drop when theres something going on.

railven
11-03-2009, 09:49 AM
Does Dragon Age support any kind of CO-OP?

My GF and I are looking into a Hack and Slash CO-OP romp. We rented a second copy of Demon's Soul but the multiplayer in that game is almost hit and miss. Wish it had an invite feature or something.

KEEBS1984
11-03-2009, 09:53 AM
Does Dragon Age support any kind of CO-OP?

My GF and I are looking into a Hack and Slash CO-OP romp. We rented a second copy of Demon's Soul but the multiplayer in that game is almost hit and miss. Wish it had an invite feature or something.

Just hide your blue phantom somewhere... it's not that hard really. :D

railven
11-03-2009, 10:03 AM
Just hide your blue phantom somewhere... it's not that hard really. :D

And when your partner dies? It isn't like most CO-OP romps where you can rez them, or get yourself killed and start the fight over.

Unless I'm doing something wrong. I thought if you use those items they get consumed.

eiger
11-03-2009, 11:55 AM
Does Dragon Age support any kind of CO-OP?

My GF and I are looking into a Hack and Slash CO-OP romp. We rented a second copy of Demon's Soul but the multiplayer in that game is almost hit and miss. Wish it had an invite feature or something.

You are lucky you have a girl into that stuff dood.

L4D2 comes to mind. On a sidenote, anyone have any new news on Diablo III? Seems to sit around for years in development.

railven
11-03-2009, 01:12 PM
You are lucky you have a girl into that stuff dood.

L4D2 comes to mind. On a sidenote, anyone have any new news on Diablo III? Seems to sit around for years in development.

Yeah, it makes it easy to spend quality time together. She's the GM of my WoW guild haha.

We played the shit out of L4D on the PC (on one account, hehe) but we want something other than WoW and an FPS. I think when we dip back into FPS' we'll be picking up Borderlands over L4D2.

Diablo III is too far out to even consider for a CO-OP hack and slash. I've tried to get her into PS:Mobile, but she doesn't like it that much haha. She's shown interested in Dragon Age, but I haven't. If it has CO-OP I'd just snag it. She's played games with me I had high interest in and she didn't (GoW/GoW2) return the favor.

Mase
11-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Ok so 2 hours in and its awesome, I got it for the 360 and honestly the dial menu from holding LT is not a big deal.. If graphics, improved frame rate and isometric view are a deal breaker for you, I would say PC version for sure.. But the menus and inventory are not a game breaker and dont even take away from the flow of combat.. Soo console versions will be just fine, but if you have a nice gaming rig and dont want trophies or achievements, PC all the way..

kamspy
11-03-2009, 04:57 PM
20 GB

Bioware and EA aren't going to pay to license 3 discs from MS on anything less than a guaranteed smash.

KEEBS1984
11-03-2009, 09:39 PM
Ok so 2 hours in and its awesome, I got it for the 360 and honestly the dial menu from holding LT is not a big deal.. If graphics, improved frame rate and isometric view are a deal breaker for you, I would say PC version for sure.. But the menus and inventory are not a game breaker and dont even take away from the flow of combat.. Soo console versions will be just fine, but if you have a nice gaming rig and dont want trophies or achievements, PC all the way..

EERRRRRGHGHHG AKJBDSKABSK!!!!

Damn you Amazon! I should be playing this RIGHT NOW! :banghead::banghead:

Instead I'm goin to a friend's house to watch Star Trek (the new movie)... not even in Blu-ray! :crying::crying:

This is all Amazon's fault! :(

Mase
11-03-2009, 11:48 PM
EERRRRRGHGHHG AKJBDSKABSK!!!!

Damn you Amazon! I should be playing this RIGHT NOW! :banghead::banghead:

Instead I'm goin to a friend's house to watch Star Trek (the new movie)... not even in Blu-ray! :crying::crying:

This is all Amazon's fault! :(

I thought that movie didnt come out till 11/17 :(

I have not seen it and cant wait to get my hands on it..

Ohh Dragon Age is awesome, although it is very linear and 6 hours in has not given me as much combat as I thought I would get, but then again im stuck on the story and not exploring as much as I could be..

eiger
11-04-2009, 12:44 AM
Picked this up as my first PC game purchase since Everquest II was first released. :yippee: Coincidently enough, there are alot of similarities in the menu, classes and skill trees. Great game so far. Lots of detail.

I can see this game being a huge time sink! Created an elf mage.

KEEBS1984
11-04-2009, 01:37 AM
I thought that movie didnt come out till 11/17 :(

I have not seen it and cant wait to get my hands on it..

Ohh Dragon Age is awesome, although it is very linear and 6 hours in has not given me as much combat as I thought I would get, but then again im stuck on the story and not exploring as much as I could be..

It's a studio copy. :cool:

Still though I would have rather played Dragon Age. That was my fourth time seeing it.

railven
11-04-2009, 08:29 AM
So no word if it has any kind of CO-OP?

Checking the reviews today.

Mase
11-04-2009, 10:23 AM
So no word if it has any kind of CO-OP?

Checking the reviews today.

Sorry Rail but I dont think this game offers up any co-op what so ever... Its a really good RPG so far though and is a total bargain for how many hours you could put into this game.

marcallo
11-04-2009, 10:49 AM
I'll give it a B+. So far I've done 2 of the origin stories Human Royal as a Warrior and Human Circle Magi. The Warrior Origin story was better the Magi is more fun to play. I might do one more Origin before I dive into the game.

BTW does anyone know what the Memory ring does from the pre-order, it lacks stats as far as I can see...

GLOW
11-04-2009, 04:04 PM
6:4

nerds lose ;)

Mase
11-04-2009, 04:24 PM
6:4

nerds lose ;)

Its actually 5:5, I thought the Wii port was funny.. Seriously who plays the Wii anymore :thumbsup:

KEEBS1984
11-04-2009, 08:57 PM
6:4

nerds lose ;)

Your in a forum... talking about video games. Let's not point fingers now. :lol:

MattRCT
11-04-2009, 10:31 PM
yells NERDS!!!!! in exact same voice as jock from revenge of the nerds.

GLOW
11-05-2009, 09:10 AM
Your in a forum... talking about video games. Let's not point fingers now. :lol:

hence the winking eye ;)

nevertheless playing anything "Dragons", RPG, or RTS puts you higher in the hierarchy of the videogame nerd :p

awol
11-05-2009, 09:21 AM
hence the winking eye ;)

nevertheless playing anything "Dragons", RPG, or RTS puts you higher in the hierarchy of the videogame nerd :p

Sadly... this is true.

20 sided die anyone??

marcallo
11-05-2009, 11:27 AM
I got a whole sack of dice somewhere. And I still ocassionally buy D&D books for the artwork and stories. Haven't played in years though. I still carry an RPGA card in my wallet as basically a keepsake. You know I used to be an above 1700 Magic Player as well. :D Couldn't get higher because I could never get to any PTQ's or whatever they were called.

Too old for that shit now, but Dragon Age is worth it for the 6 origin stories alone. You get more content there then from some regularly priced 60 dollar games.

kamspy
11-29-2009, 07:09 PM
So. Finally got into this game.

Allow me to revise all my other GOTY posts and list this as my top 3 in all positive categories.

Bioware delivers in a way PC gamers might not see much of in the future....and actual real life AAA PC game!:eek: If you own a mouse, it's you duty to buy it. On PC. Don't be a plebeian. What will your future generations think of your legacy then? You don't want you great great great great grandson Lenny walking around saying "my great great great great grandfather was pleb":(

MikeRox
11-30-2009, 04:02 AM
I tried it off my mates Steam account on PC... 5fps bottom settings 4tw! :D :lol: I'm going to wait until I have a beefy PC to play this though, rather than fanny about with the butchered console versions.

lordofthesith
11-30-2009, 10:04 AM
picked up dragons Age for 34 on BF played it very little so far but for a console version its actually very good. I would agree with others that PC would be easier to control and probably looks better but the 360 version is well worth your time. I can see myself spending many hours on this one. thats if I can get away for MW2 and LFD2.

kamspy
12-01-2009, 02:58 PM
It's not just graphical and control differences, there's actual content missing in the console versions.

Mase
12-02-2009, 08:31 AM
It's not just graphical and control differences, there's actual content missing in the console versions.

What content do you speak of?

Seriously though there is soo much content you can spend 80+ hours on one character let alone all of them.. I dont explore 100% of the game in any of the RPGs I love, even Fallout 3 and Tales of Vesperia.. Soo missing out on some content that likely doesnt affect the arch of the main story line is not a big enough reason to give up my achievements and comfy couch :thumbsup:

lordofthesith
12-02-2009, 11:05 AM
there are few majors minutes on dragons age they show the menu systems pretty well. its closer to games like baulders gate, neverwinter knights but you can control just your character like diablo and let the others just react

marcallo
12-02-2009, 01:33 PM
Since I've beaten the game twice I think I'll upgrade my review to an A++. And pray they put out a huge DLC package sometime soon followed by a full priced expansion pack that takes place in say... Antiva.

So many places they can go with this franchise. I want more games like this. Fuck MMO's, single player, hard core RPG's is where it's at. (and by IT I don't mean massive amounts of money that the publishers only care for)

kamspy
12-02-2009, 04:24 PM
What content do you speak of?

Seriously though there is soo much content you can spend 80+ hours on one character let alone all of them.. I dont explore 100% of the game in any of the RPGs I love, even Fallout 3 and Tales of Vesperia.. Soo missing out on some content that likely doesnt affect the arch of the main story line is not a big enough reason to give up my achievements and comfy couch :thumbsup:

Not storyboards, actual content. You know, the actual game underneath the graphics?

- PC has full camera control, whereas console its fixed behind the character
- PC version you control entire party, Console you can only control one character at a time.
- PC has full UI w/ hotkeys, mods, dev tools, and also you can script commands for your party kinda like the gambit system. (console doesnt have any of this except a dumbed down gambit system)
- Console has 40% less enemies, and they're easier on any difficulty.
- Consoles only get official DLC
- Consoles have to use godawful radial menus
- Consoles have really dumbed down puzzle set pieces


I've also got Dragon Age cheesemints:D

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj186/kamspy/dragonagecheesemints.jpg

KEEBS1984
12-02-2009, 04:55 PM
Not storyboards, actual content. You know, the actual game underneath the graphics?

- PC has full camera control, whereas console its fixed behind the character
- PC version you control entire party, Console you can only control one character at a time.
- PC has full UI w/ hotkeys, mods, dev tools, and also you can script commands for your party kinda like the gambit system. (console doesnt have any of this except a dumbed down gambit system)
- Console has 40% less enemies, and they're easier on any difficulty.
- Consoles only get official DLC
- Consoles have to use godawful radial menus
- Consoles have really dumbed down puzzle set pieces


I've also got Dragon Age cheesemints:D



The BOLDED features are the only ones I really care about not having.

I don't like directly controlling multiple [party members in my PRGs and the PC seems to do it fine for me in Dragon Age anyways. Same dealy with the camera control... it's an action RPG. Why would I want to move the camera to anywhere but the primary character I am controlling? Also, the radial menus aren't all that bad. I'm sure the PC version is better but as far as a console game they are pretty slick...

The UNDERLINED "features" just confuse the hell out of me.

40% less enemies? You mean there are less enemies allowed on screen? I've gone up against 10 guys before and that was a huge challenge... I'm not sure if my party could have taken 14... Likewise, the console version is no walk in the park. You need a well-rounded team to get anywhere above the "casual" difficulty setting.

Also what do you mean by puzzle piece? I'm about 30 hours into the game and I haven't found one yet... :confused:

kamspy
12-02-2009, 05:09 PM
one puzzle example

the fire tile one where you have to free the demon spirit from the cat right before Shale enters your party

Console version can only do around 10 regular sized enemies on the screen, with average A.I. Advanced A.I. enemies drop that number to around 3-4.

There are also enemy variation missing from the console version (minor quibble, but still).

PC version runs on the new Bioware Eclipse engine which is an entirely open SDK. Console version is modified ME engine.


and, there's always the part where Bioware didn't do the console port at all. Little EA dev call Edge of Reality.

BUT, if a console is your only viable gaming option, OR, you fail to realize that the HDMI port on the back of your computer is actually compatible with the HDMI port on the back of your TV, you shouldn't miss Dragon Age.

Even if you only get to watch it rather than play it.



Also, I'd like to thank the console plebs for boosting Dragon Age's budget! Bioware said once they agreed on a port that EA threw them a rather large chunk of money.

kamspy
12-02-2009, 05:13 PM
oh yeah. Couldn't fathom taking on some of the larger battles without being able to zooming out to a full isometric view.

The huge battles are my favorite thing about DA so far. A real blast from the past. I think little 10 enemy skirmishes would hamper the game for me.

Mase
12-03-2009, 06:11 AM
The only thing that I miss is the different views, as far as enemies on screen, there can be and there are more than 10 at a time.. I dont think i've missed what the core of DA is, I know which version is superior but again I prefer a controller in my hand and my comfy couch..

I am almost done with my second playthrough and I may have a chance at picking up the PC version for next to nothing.

KEEBS1984
12-03-2009, 10:09 AM
I may have a chance at picking up the PC version for next to nothing.

Details? :D :o

kamspy
12-03-2009, 02:51 PM
The only thing that I miss is the different views, as far as enemies on screen, there can be and there are more than 10 at a time.. I dont think i've missed what the core of DA is, I know which version is superior but again I prefer a controller in my hand and my comfy couch..

I am almost done with my second playthrough and I may have a chance at picking up the PC version for next to nothing.

Why not hook the PC up to the TV?

Mase
12-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Details? :D :o

A friend of mine picked up a copy for the PC but his just took a crap, but luckily he was gifted the console version so he said if I want it, its mine.. I will just owe him a drink when we go out, so for $3-5, I think I will take that deal.


Why not hook the PC up to the TV?

You still need a kb/m right?

Even though I will be on my couch using my HT, I will still be hunched over a kb/m... With a controller I can lean back, lay down and relax, I know the kb/m is superior when it comes to RPGs but I just want to relax when I play my RPGs and single player games...

kamspy
12-03-2009, 03:45 PM
Wireless kbm.

If a kb is too big you can get on of those keypad things. My brother plays with one of those and a trackball from his couch. I can't dig the trackball though, but somehow he freaking owns with it.:what:

DA isn't a PC game I'd play on the couch though, but beefier versions of BF:BC2, Batman AA, Fallout 3, and any other gamepad friendly game are all perfect. And Steam's friend connect options are > XBL.

Mase
12-03-2009, 03:52 PM
I have a spare wireless kb/m, but have you tried using a kb on your lap? I also dont like track balls and that would just require me to buy something I dont like, with a console its already there, why fuss with something else... All of that fussing takes the fun out of the games...

I will use the PC version where it belongs and sit in my semi comfy comp chair and take small chunks out of it... Then again I have not made much if any time for PC gaming lately, I have a rather big backlog of console games I need to get through before the new years......

kamspy
12-03-2009, 04:14 PM
Never buy a trackball. I was just making an example. I can barely navigate windows with one. :lol:

Wireless kbm work well. There's a little lag (most wouldn't even notice) but I've chilled out on many a snowy saturday with a kb on my lap and a mouse on the cushion next to me. But since when the 360 controller came out with drivers pre hardwired into XP and Vista, most of my couch PC gaming time is on games that are better with a pad. Batman, DMC, etc.


Seeing Crysis on 60" for the first time was when I lost all respect for my consoles. Try that out Mase, I know you have it. Socks will be blow off. Most mobo's have coax or optical output too (if not HDMI).

Matter of fact, I'll make you a bet.;) I just need your PC specs first.

IIRC you've got a 8800GTX, Intel Core Due something and about 4GB of RAM? If so, play one hour of Cysis (fully patched with a config mod I'll link you.) on your biggest screen in surround sound with a 360 pad. If you don't start a thread denouncing console gaming afterward on your own accord, I won't troll console hardware for 7 entire days (on HDF). :eek: If I win, I get the warm feeling inside of improving another gamers quality of life by fully showing them the benefits of an open, fully scalable and customizable gaming platform.:)


If you're interested, I'll run off what settings to run. You'll feel like you just played a real next gen game. I went about a year owning a big HDTV without hooking my PC up to it. I had no clue what I was missing.

Mase
12-03-2009, 05:33 PM
Ohh i've hooked it up to my HT before, I was running L4D 1 on it for a while, as it looks sooooo much better than the console version... I really should give Crysis a go on it, that game still looks better than almost anything on a console today.... I was playing it not to long ago and my friend walked by and was like WTF game is that??? It looks sooo real!!

My PC specs are on the low side, 9800GT, wolfdale 3.2ghz dual core and 4Gb ram..

kamspy
12-03-2009, 05:48 PM
Actually, that's right around the sweet spot.

People are still programming with the 8xxx series as a baseline.

eiger
12-08-2009, 12:45 PM
I just installed DA and hooked went DVI/HDMI to the projector :eek:

Wow.

eck979
12-08-2009, 01:16 PM
Geez..
Kam's like a Jehovah's Witness w/ this PC stuff..

eiger
12-08-2009, 01:24 PM
Geez..
Kam's like a Jehovah's Witness w/ this PC stuff..

Pretty much. Kam and a couple others have been very succesfull in spreading their infectious disease around PC gaming and sucking up to the Steam. :D

I certainly do believe I made the right choice in picking this up for the PC platform tho.

marcallo
12-09-2009, 04:19 PM
ZERO question that this game is superior on PC. And I'm a guy who owns every console and a gaming pc. NO DEBATE over what system is "better" with this game.

KEEBS1984
12-15-2009, 11:27 PM
ZERO question that this game is superior on PC. And I'm a guy who owns every console and a gaming pc. NO DEBATE over what system is "better" with this game.

I don't think there was ever really a debate, more just people expressing their interest in playing on their couch over their desks. I fully understand that the PC version is better than my 360 version, but my girlfriend wanted to play/watch me play and she doesn't like PC gaming... hence I bit the bullet and got the 360 version.

Still good.

Also... who one starred this post? GLOW... was that you!? :duh: