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Rumor: Blu-ray Enabled Wii in 2010

Shark2k
10-29-2009, 12:23 PM
Gaming site Maxconsole.net, citing information leaked to Logic-Sunrise.com by a Nintendo France marketing employee, is reporting that a new Nintendo console will be launched worldwide in the third quarter of 2010. This "Wii 2" will reportedly get a Blu-ray drive, and support 1080p for games and movies.

An official announcement will reportedly happen just one month before launch date. In the intervening months, "huge publicity and viral marketing will be utilized to create buzz" (so this post is ultimately contributing to that, right? Damned if you do...).

Allegedly, there will be the option to trade in old Wii's for "Wii 2" consoles...

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=3617

You can read the rest of the article at the link above. I don't personally believe it, but thought I would put it out there.

-Shark2k

Razor05
10-29-2009, 01:07 PM
Heh, that would be nice. The Wii on the same playing field as the 360 & PS3.

KEEBS1984
10-29-2009, 02:34 PM
Doh nvm!

Halo360Fan
10-29-2009, 02:55 PM
wow if this is true that sucks for me and wii owners that have an HDTV cause it will support 1080P rather than a horrible 480P

Chris Gerhard
10-29-2009, 05:05 PM
wow if this is true that sucks for me and wii owners that have an HDTV cause it will support 1080P rather than a horrible 480P

Why does it suck for you if the new Wii is HD? I never understand the comments complaining that a new product is better than the product they own. I assume you knew the Wii was 480p when you purchased it. If that wasn't what you wanted, you should have waited for something you did want. I didn't want a 480p Wii and didn't buy one and hope the next generation is 1080p. I won't buy that either since I committed to the PS3 for my one game console but better products are always a good idea in my opinion regardless of what that does to the value of my older inferior product.

Chris

DIRECTVMAN
10-29-2009, 09:14 PM
I don't think 480p is horrible.

If you think it's horrible why don't you sell it ?
Why did you even buy it ?

Halo360Fan
10-29-2009, 10:49 PM
I don't think 480p is horrible.

If you think it's horrible why don't you sell it ?
Why did you even buy it ?



Why does it suck for you if the new Wii is HD? I never understand the comments complaining that a new product is better than the product they own. I assume you knew the Wii was 480p when you purchased it. If that wasn't what you wanted, you should have waited for something you did want. I didn't want a 480p Wii and didn't buy one and hope the next generation is 1080p. I won't buy that either since I committed to the PS3 for my one game console but better products are always a good idea in my opinion regardless of what that does to the value of my older inferior product.



I did not think nintendo would release a new wii. I would think they would release a whole brand new system not a upgraded system thats all ready out. Did you think Nintendo would upgrade the wii? I really think they wouldn't if I knew then I would have waited.

I did not say the wii is horrible I said the maximum res is not great. The Wii is fun but I wished it looked better.

GLOW
10-30-2009, 12:13 AM
If we were playing Ninja Gaiden and Killzone on the Wii I'd care but it's a damn Nintendo console. HD graphics aren't really that important when you're playing Mario Kart and Wii Sports. As long as it's native 16:9 and progressive, I could care less what my cartoon kiddie games look like. Hell, even MadWorld didn't look too bad and it was only 480i.

Nevada_MO_Guy
10-30-2009, 01:03 AM
Did you think Nintendo would upgrade the wii?

From the article and quote listed by the OP.

Allegedly, there will be the option to trade in old Wii's for "Wii 2" consoles.

MikeRox
10-30-2009, 03:35 AM
Has nobody watched their handling of their popular consoles this past decade? :p

GBA - GB:SP - GBMicro
DS - DS Lite - DSi
Wii - WiiHD is fairly predictable given that so many people now openly state avoiding the system due to it's lack of HD. I think they'd give it an initially secret horsepower boost too and then gradually phase across to it while early titles would just run in a different resolution but with the same visuals.

PFC5
10-30-2009, 04:45 AM
How would they handle HD wii titles playing on a non HD wii?

I doubt this will happen for that reason along. Generally they come out with a new product to avoid such incompatibilities.

EditWhiz1983
10-30-2009, 05:14 AM
Why does it suck for you if the new Wii is HD? I never understand the comments complaining that a new product is better than the product they own. I assume you knew the Wii was 480p when you purchased it. If that wasn't what you wanted, you should have waited for something you did want. I didn't want a 480p Wii and didn't buy one and hope the next generation is 1080p. Chris

Obviously your either very young or very old... I say that because anyone with a little bit of thinking power can figure it out on their own.

It sucks because they bought a product that is being updated and don't want to have to shell out the money for a new one. GET IT? I am sure you have felt the same way about something. Even if it was just about buying a console for X amount and then a month later it came down in price. Same thing...

Yes there will always be something bigger and better that comes out. We all know this. However if you remember NINTENDO stated that the Wii was a gaming console only when it came out and that it wouldn't never be anything but that. FYI if you keept putting off buying something for something better to emerge, then you'll never buy it. So you have to buy into it when it is right for you and obviously it was the right time for that person.

I doubt it will come out with this because the HD titles will most likely not play on the non HD console. Even if they let you trade in your Wii for the new one is it going to be for the full price of the original Wii? I doubt it, probably something like $50 which is worthless IMO towards a new one, which you know damn well is going to cost a minimum of $299 if not $350.

MikeRox
10-30-2009, 05:32 AM
You seem to be drawing a lot of conclusions from very little information and living in a very idealistic world.

It's not really any different than from the Elite model which suddenly offered HDMI which the original Xbox 360 omitted and a 120gb HDD. The cost of the 120gb HDD on it's own was astronomical to a point whereby, trading in your older 360 for the Elite was actually just as worthwhile an option and with the way the 360 has gone, a 20gb HDD is absolutely nothing (which is why it's the Pro that has been phased out).

Things get replaced, it happens. The Wii has been on the market in it's current specification for 3 years next month. In that time the 360 Elite and the 250gb models will have been released on the 360, and the PS3 slim has also been introduced (offering cheaper running costs and a much smaller form factor).

Why does a HD outputting Wii offend you? Like Chris said, if HD was make or break, you wouldn't have bought it, but it was always obvious from the market and competition, that HD is eventually where the market was heading. That makes a Wii HD a foregone conclusion IMO and I'm surprised it's taken so long for major rumours of one to even surface.

I'll happily shell out for a HD native Wii so long as it is backwards compatible. You can still get over 100 for a Wii pre owned, that means 80 for 3 years of console use, thats very little depreciation. I spent 300 on my 360 Elite 18 months ago and I can now only get 120 for that pre owned.

GLOW
10-30-2009, 09:25 AM
Wii HD is fairly predictable given that so many people now openly state avoiding the system due to it's lack of HD.

That's ridiculous. Are you basing this on internet comments? I'm very big on graphics and I don't have a problem with the Wii not being HD. This isn't like the PS3 price drop. No one is going to run to the video game store to buy a Wii2 because it's finally HD. Nintendo fanboys will buy it of course, but they'd also buy it if it came in a new color. :lol: I just don't think there are too many people out there that actually care.

marcallo
10-30-2009, 09:42 AM
I actually care a little bit about this. I have a shit ass time getting my wii working into my home theater because of it's lack of HDMI and then when I do get it to work I have to fiddle with my TV to make it look acceptable. If they put out an upgraded wii and actually had some 3rd party support I might be more interested in using the Wii.

Right now I have a very expensive paperweight that hardly gets touched because getting it working is a pain in the ass and then when I do get it working the games inevitably disappoint me. IE Clone wars light saber dueling or whatever.

jusHD
10-30-2009, 11:50 AM
What the hell when are people going to wake up. The wii sucks balls HD or not. There games that supposed to be good like the mario titles are lacking and they are the only thing on it. I personally hate my fucking Wii and it pisses me off just sitting there gathering dust. Wifey doesnt use it but wont let me get rid of it for some reason. This gen has been fucked. PS3 forcing people into blu-ray and charging $699 fucking stupid. The 360 is at 57% break down rate and people contiunue to bend over and buy that shit. Then this piece of over-hyped worthless no game having crap the wii. This gen has given us the most stupidly handled sytem, the cheapest easily breakable piece of shit, and the most over-hyped dust collector ever. But in all the gaming on the 360 and PS3 has been great.

Nevada_MO_Guy
10-30-2009, 12:55 PM
Wifey doesnt use it but wont let me get rid of it for some reason.
Ask your wife if it is ok for you to get this (http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/sqOucHYvk9w/) game, seems "fun". :)

Razor05
10-30-2009, 12:55 PM
What the hell when are people going to wake up. The wii sucks balls HD or not. There games that supposed to be good like the mario titles are lacking and they are the only thing on it. I personally hate my fucking Wii and it pisses me off just sitting there gathering dust. Wifey doesnt use it but wont let me get rid of it for some reason. This gen has been fucked. PS3 forcing people into blu-ray and charging $699 fucking stupid. The 360 is at 57% break down rate and people contiunue to bend over and buy that shit. Then this piece of over-hyped worthless no game having crap the wii. This gen has given us the most stupidly handled sytem, the cheapest easily breakable piece of shit, and the most over-hyped dust collector ever. But in all the gaming on the 360 and PS3 has been great.


Lol, I have to say though that I agree with you.

MikeRox
10-30-2009, 01:10 PM
That's ridiculous. Are you basing this on internet comments? I'm very big on graphics and I don't have a problem with the Wii not being HD. This isn't like the PS3 price drop. No one is going to run to the video game store to buy a Wii2 because it's finally HD. Nintendo fanboys will buy it of course, but they'd also buy it if it came in a new color. :lol: I just don't think there are too many people out there that actually care.

Our Official Nintendo Magazine amongst many other gaming publications have been pressing Nintendo over HD. It's not just internet comments. As HDTVs become more common, an increasing chunk of "core gamers" are going to refuse to touch non HD stuff IMO.

pearl-drum-man
11-01-2009, 06:41 AM
My initial thought was that Nintendo would be in no hurry to upgrade (next-gen?) with the success they are having with the Wii, but after reading the article (posted below), I'm not so sure. Furthermore, if they do go "next gen", I think backwards compatibility will be critical. In addition, I really think a lot of people who bought the Wii (the non-traditional gamer crowd) probably will not be upgrading to a new Wii.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6238454.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1

The Wii Has Stalled
Nintendo president says top-selling console has hit a wall due to dearth of "high demand" software, "preparing for next year."

Though it once appeared to be a tiny sales juggernaut, Nintendo's top-selling Wii has struggled in 2009. In July, the Japanese publisher reported April-June revenues that had slid 40 percent from a year prior to 253 billion ($2.81 billion). Nintendo didn't fare much better during its July-September quarter, saying yesterday that sales fell 34.5 percent to 548.1 billion ($6.09 billion) during the first half of its fiscal year.


Put the Wii down, Iwata. Things aren't that bad…
Nintendo's slipping performance has not gone unnoticed by the publisher's president. As reported by Japan's Mainichi Newspaper and translated by GameSpot, Nintendo executive Satoru Iwata told analysts and investors as part of a post-earnings Q&A that a weak software lineup has contributed to the Wii's sluggish performance.

"The Wii has stalled," Iwata said. "Games of high demand could not be continuously released and the good mood has chilled." Iwata went on to note that it will be difficult to recover from "the slowdown in demand," but he also expressed optimism over Nintendo's ability to continue selling Wiis.

According to Japan's Nikkan Sports (translated by GameSpot), Iwata also said during the conference that Nintendo misjudged market conditions as they pertained to the publisher's sales strategy.

"The mood of the market got colder than expected, and there was a difference in expectations," he said. "Now, we are preparing for next year and thinking about what to do the year after next." Iwata reportedly went on to note that Nintendo is optimistic about its chance to right the Wii's downward sales trend going forward.

Notably, reports have emerged that Nintendo is planning a number of enhancements to its console. Earlier this week, reports surfaced that Nintendo would be introducing Netflix's online video-streaming service to the console, functionality that is already available for the Xbox 360 and will soon be introduced to the PlayStation 3. Analysts and industry insiders also expect the publisher to launch an HD version of the Wii or an all-new system in 2010 or 2011 to better compete with Microsoft and Sony's consoles.

As for Nintendo's other hit hardware, Nikkan Sports reports that Iwata downplayed suggestions that the DS was losing ground to Apple's increasingly ubiquitous iPhone. "Our presence in the marketplace is growing," he succinctly stated. Yesterday, Nintendo also took the lid off its fourth DS hardware iteration, the DSi XL. The jumbo-sized DSi, which features 4.2 inch screens, increased battery life, and a larger stylus is expected to launch in Japan later this year for 20,000 ($220.50). The device's North American and European launch is expected to follow during the first part of 2010.

Nevada_MO_Guy
11-01-2009, 12:09 PM
Furthermore, if they do go "next gen", I think backwards compatibility will be critical.
If the Wii wanted to go "next gen" with bluray, maybe instead of upgrading the current Wii they will have a separate gaming system dedicated to higher definition content.

They could keep both systems and there would be a market for it....maybe call one ps2 and the other ps3....oh wait that is already taken.

I am sure they can think of something. :)

Chris Gerhard
11-01-2009, 12:14 PM
Obviously your either very young or very old... I say that because anyone with a little bit of thinking power can figure it out on their own.

It sucks because they bought a product that is being updated and don't want to have to shell out the money for a new one. GET IT? I am sure you have felt the same way about something. Even if it was just about buying a console for X amount and then a month later it came down in price. Same thing...

Yes there will always be something bigger and better that comes out. We all know this. However if you remember NINTENDO stated that the Wii was a gaming console only when it came out and that it wouldn't never be anything but that. FYI if you keept putting off buying something for something better to emerge, then you'll never buy it. So you have to buy into it when it is right for you and obviously it was the right time for that person.

I doubt it will come out with this because the HD titles will most likely not play on the non HD console. Even if they let you trade in your Wii for the new one is it going to be for the full price of the original Wii? I doubt it, probably something like $50 which is worthless IMO towards a new one, which you know damn well is going to cost a minimum of $299 if not $350.

No, I don't get it. Products are improved all of the time and it sounds like whining to me if someone complains because any given product is being improved after that person has already purchased it. If the product didn't do what was wanted when it was purchased, that is the fault of the purchaser. If the product is what was wanted, just accept that newer products will be better, that is the way things go. The Wii was standard definition in the HD age, I have no idea why anybody would have purchased it personally.

Yes, I am older but I have understood this simple concept since I was very young.

Chris

pearl-drum-man
11-01-2009, 04:00 PM
If the Wii wanted to go "next gen" with bluray, maybe instead of upgrading the current Wii they will have a separate gaming system dedicated to higher definition content.

They could keep both systems and there would be a market for it....maybe call one ps2 and the other ps3....oh wait that is already taken.

I am sure they can think of something. :)

I guess it's yet to be determined what they might do, in the article I posted they mentioned both the upgraded Wii, or an "all new system", so who knows at this point.

I still have not bought into the Wii thing, now that I know an HD version (or all new system) is on the horizon I'm not sure I'll be too motivated to get one now. Still trying to convince myself to pull the trigger on the PS3. It will be harder to deny once GOW3 is out.

marcallo
11-01-2009, 05:24 PM
Just go get the PS3 when it comes out in 250gb. You won't regret it. I don't regret my 120 slim at all.

Nevada_MO_Guy
11-02-2009, 12:07 AM
Just go get the PS3 when it comes out in 250gb.
It is getting closer.

November 3rd, last a heard

Best Buy (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/SONY+COMPUTER+ENTERTAINMENT+-+Sony+-+PlayStation+3+%28250GB%29/9611611.p?id=1218131143031&skuId=9611611)
Walmart (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=13017959)

http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/9611/9611611_ra.jpg

Razor05
11-03-2009, 09:39 AM
I'm not so sure the Wii wants to go head-to-head with the 360 & PS3 in regards to HD. Once you go high def the bar has to be raised, including graphics and sound.

MikeRox
11-03-2009, 09:47 AM
I disagree actually, going HD would be purely to lose the "jaggies" and make the system less hurting on the eyes. Most Wii games of note feature extremely stylised visuals and so would be able to get away with the current texture resolutions etc.

Razor05
11-03-2009, 10:00 AM
I disagree actually, going HD would be purely to lose the "jaggies" and make the system less hurting on the eyes. Most Wii games of note feature extremely stylised visuals and so would be able to get away with the current texture resolutions etc.

I wouldn't spend the money to go HD just to get rid of the "jaggies". IMO once Nintendo goes HD the consumer will expect alot more. Nintendo had made the decision to stay SD and made it work with the motion controllers.

railven
11-03-2009, 10:10 AM
I wouldn't spend the money to go HD just to get rid of the "jaggies". IMO once Nintendo goes HD the consumer will expect alot more. Nintendo had made the decision to stay SD and made it work with the motion controllers.

Agree.

And if Nintendo doesn't plan on making the native resolutions any higher there is no real need for a BD drive. They can probably use the current hardware to upscale to 720p without a hit to performance.

Then it can crank out 720p with the component cables. Problem solved.

MikeRox
11-03-2009, 12:53 PM
I think it's a new Wii tbh. What does the Wii offer over the PS3 in 6 months time? The PS3 will have the same control system and I have no doubt Sony want their army of casual gamers back.

railven
11-03-2009, 01:22 PM
I think it's a new Wii tbh. What does the Wii offer over the PS3 in 6 months time? The PS3 will have the same control system and I have no doubt Sony want their army of casual gamers back.

If Sony can get the PS3 to ~$200 that is probably a posibility.

Eitherway, I still think Nintendo should allow a firmware change to give us Component cable users 720p upscaling. Someone write an angry letter!

Mase
11-03-2009, 01:25 PM
If Sony can get the PS3 to ~$200 that is probably a posibility.

Eitherway, I still think Nintendo should allow a firmware change to give us Component cable users 720p upscaling. Someone write an angry letter!

Man this is just the start of the PS3 Tsunami, I expect next year to be even better with them taking the edge in the console race. I dont count the Wii to be honest, its 360, PS3 or bust..

Although I think the PCs have a slight sales lead atm, we will see what Microsoft and Sony do to counteract that :o :D

MikeRox
11-03-2009, 05:16 PM
If Sony can get the PS3 to ~$200 that is probably a posibility.

Eitherway, I still think Nintendo should allow a firmware change to give us Component cable users 720p upscaling. Someone write an angry letter!

Europe is Sony's core market (always has been where their market share is strongest) and is also the market where the Wii is yet to actually receive a price drop The PS3 is only actually 50-70 more expensive than a Wii at present.

Razor05
11-04-2009, 07:43 AM
Europe is Sony's core market (always has been where their market share is strongest) and is also the market where the Wii is yet to actually receive a price drop The PS3 is only actually 50-70 more expensive than a Wii at present.

The closer that price point gets, the worse the Wii looks. ;)

railven
11-04-2009, 08:28 AM
The closer that price point gets, the worse the Wii looks. ;)

Anyone who loves their Wii with no sense of resentment should be taken outside and shot.

The Wii has been nothing but a plague to the gaming society.

Mike, I'm looking at you! :p :lol:

MikeRox
11-04-2009, 09:35 AM
Anyone who loves their Wii with no sense of resentment should be taken outside and shot.

The Wii has been nothing but a plague to the gaming society.

Mike, I'm looking at you! :p :lol:

:lol: I disagree. The Wii has been the shot in the arm gaming needed to keep "mainstream" interested and ultimately keep the games industry at the size it is.

The direction Microsoft and Sony were taking was simply alienating as many people as it was pleasing and gaming was rapidly heading back to an elite hobby for "geeks" and kids.

If the Wii has made just 5% of it's userbase curious about "core" games, it has been a great benefit to the games industry. Hopefully it's also proven that this ridiculous constant need up tech to a ridiculous pricepoint whereby a console cannot sell at a break even price isn't necessary to attract a large audience.

What could anybody possibly resent the Wii for? Imagine Babiez? well, um, take a look at the PS1 and PS2 catalogues, I'm sure you'll find just as much shit on them, thats par for the course with a market leading system ;)

Lack of HD? Theres the PS3 and 360 for you.

Price? Don't buy it. If everybody refuses to buy it at it's current price, it will drop. Thats economics 101.

Shitty motion controls? You might not want them, other people do. The number of games WITHOUT motion controls on the Wii is now shownig that there is a demand for both and the market can sustain both types of control. More importantly, the better selling titles (Mario Kart, Smash Bros, which have sold FAR more than their GC counterparts which were near identical visually interestingly...) actually give users the option of motion controls OR traditional controls etc.

railven
11-04-2009, 02:18 PM
:lol: I disagree. The Wii has been the shot in the arm gaming needed to keep "mainstream" interested and ultimately keep the games industry at the size it is.

The direction Microsoft and Sony were taking was simply alienating as many people as it was pleasing and gaming was rapidly heading back to an elite hobby for "geeks" and kids.

If the Wii has made just 5% of it's userbase curious about "core" games, it has been a great benefit to the games industry. Hopefully it's also proven that this ridiculous constant need up tech to a ridiculous pricepoint whereby a console cannot sell at a break even price isn't necessary to attract a large audience.

What could anybody possibly resent the Wii for? Imagine Babiez? well, um, take a look at the PS1 and PS2 catalogues, I'm sure you'll find just as much shit on them, thats par for the course with a market leading system ;)

Lack of HD? Theres the PS3 and 360 for you.

Price? Don't buy it. If everybody refuses to buy it at it's current price, it will drop. Thats economics 101.

Shitty motion controls? You might not want them, other people do. The number of games WITHOUT motion controls on the Wii is now shownig that there is a demand for both and the market can sustain both types of control. More importantly, the better selling titles (Mario Kart, Smash Bros, which have sold FAR more than their GC counterparts which were near identical visually interestingly...) actually give users the option of motion controls OR traditional controls etc.

I'd have to disagree with the argument of keeping gaming mainstream. The Wii hasn't done jack, the DS...maybe.

If you look at the numbers, just on software (factor out hardware because that does nothing to keep gaming mainstream, everyone and their mom can buy a Wii but if no one is buying the games, then it isn't helping gaming) the 360 makes up the lions share of software sales, with the PS3 second.

All the Wii did was lace Nintendo's pockets with money and has returned very little, if anything, back to the gaming community except convert ever other person into a "gamer." Shovelware is the only crap you'll find on it. It is the point where Nintendo themselves don't have to dev for it, since they can just fall back on hardware sales.

MikeRox
11-05-2009, 04:17 AM
Nintendo's money has been primarily generated by titles like Mario Kart (17m and counting) more so than console sales.

The Wii userbase must be buying games, as there are approx 6 games per console. The reason 3rd parties are suffering is because as usual, Nintendo know their market, and their games are the ones that are selling for the most part (though a few 3rd parties have started seeing success as well when they've actually catered for the audience the Wii now has). Nintendo's failures this gen, Wii Music and Animal Crossing have each sold more (over 2.5m) than all but the biggest 360 and PS3 titles.

The Wii reintroduced 2 things that the Ps3 and 360 neglected. Pick up and play controls and "simple fun". The PS2 offered this, the PS1 did, the SNES/Genesis before that and definitely the NES and older Atari consoles. The PS3 and 360 however, outside of licensed movie tie ins etc, cater very little to the non realistic/violent/sports markets. The PS3 is certainly doing better than the 360, but clean fun titles have failed on the 360 as proven by the IMO criminally overlooked Kameo and Viva Pinata. These sorts of games just don't sell to the 360 userbase for some reason. Little Big Planets slower than anticipated sales reflect a similar trend in the PS3 market.

The Wii has kept games like Klonoa viable (one of the years best games) and delivered titles such as Little Kings Story. In the past 3 years, these titles would have been complete bombs at retail on the PS3 and 360. The PS3 however is certainly looking like it's now picking up the slack, Mod Nation Racers, that Dot Pixel Zelda clone that looks incredible being confirmed as getting an English translation etc.

The Wii has also provided a small haven and kept an old favourite genre of mine (on rails light gun shooters) viable and even given them a revival and reimage with Dead Space and the new Resident Evil games.

If that don't float your boat, fair enough. But the Wii isn't the gaming train wreck it's portraited to be. I'd much rather have each of my favourite Wii games in HD, but the market refused to make that viable in HD what with them not being 32 player online space marine shooter fests with Ferarris and Football players :p

Hopefully now that the PS3 userbase is growing (for some reason the Xbox userbase has always generally steered clear of the less mainstream "hardcore"gaming affair) these games will become viable in HD and I will no longer be forced to rely on my Wii to deliver my shot of traditional gaming goodness.

marcallo
11-05-2009, 11:40 AM
I'll give you that. When I did play my wii I enjoyed it a lot. It just wore off. But Mario Galaxy is a great game, as is the mini game package that came with it. But when it comes to things like Fighting games and the like, I'd really rather just use a controller. The WII does give you that option though. You can plug a gamecube controller in and play mario Cart that way rather then with that silly wheel they put out.

In my house it's a dust collector to the point where I'm probably going to give it to my young cousins. But in some houses it's probably a great thing.

Mase
11-05-2009, 02:23 PM
Its fun for a short period of time and some games are good on it, Zelda Twilight princess, Mario Kart/Galaxy, ect.. However as everyone has mentioned, it wears off, its just not a system that keeps you hooked or even playing it on a weekly basis.. I just look at my little brother and nephews, after they saved up for a 360 (they already had a Wii) and got one, they stopped playing their Wii altogether except for the random Mario Kart game 2-3 times a month. Where as their 360 gets booted up everyday, its not just adults who can see that the Wii does not have solid titles or marketing for solid titles and relies heavily on hype and shovelware for their sales...

Shark2k
11-05-2009, 02:34 PM
....its not just adults who can see that the Wii does not have solid titles or marketing for solid titles and relies heavily on hype and shovelware for their sales...

That isn't Nintendo's fault really. The majority of Nintendo made games are really great, solid games. It's not like Nintendo can make enough good games to sustain the Wii every year. More 3rd party developers really need to actually put effort into their games so that they are just as good as Nintendo. And to do that they need to not rush the games out just so they could try and make money. I've been playing de Blob on Wii and that is a really fun game. Obviously everyone might not like it, but I think it is enjoyable and it does have it's difficult parts.

I would say the 3rd party developers rely on the hype, but Nintendo actually makes good games (for the most part) when they put them out there. Nintendo, at least in the beginning of the consoles life, even offered to help developers with games to try and make them good. Maybe if the Wii did go HD, the developers might take it a little more seriously, who knows. Developers would possibly be able to put titles on the Wii that are on the other systems and would be able to add motion controls (that work really well hopefully) to add to the experience of the game.

Though, that's just my :2cents.

-Shark2k

Razor05
11-05-2009, 03:19 PM
Nintendo caters to their most lucrative audience...the younger generation. Rotten Ronnie's did the same thing, but eventually they had to change. ;)

Shark2k
11-06-2009, 06:14 PM
And just like I figured, this was not going to happen:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/11/06/nintendos-reggie-fils-aime-squashes-wii-hd-rumors-again/

-Shark2k

Millard19
11-07-2009, 02:34 AM
Wii's can't even play DVD's.. but now they want to have Blu Ray that plays movies? Even if true..expect bare minimum of features/options.. nothing like a PS3 that can also stream media from a computer and supports just about all video formats.

PS3 has had motion controls since day one.. they didn't steal anything from Wii.. The New wands may of been inspired by it though but they will far surpass the Wii and Natal in motion control abilities when they come out.

I will be sticking to the options fully loaded to the max PS3 for my media needs.

Shark2k
11-07-2009, 11:20 AM
Wii's can't even play DVD's.. but now they want to have Blu Ray that plays movies? Even if true..expect bare minimum of features/options.. nothing like a PS3 that can also stream media from a computer and supports just about all video formats.

PS3 has had motion controls since day one.. they didn't steal anything from Wii.. The New wands may of been inspired by it though but they will far surpass the Wii and Natal in motion control abilities when they come out.

I will be sticking to the options fully loaded to the max PS3 for my media needs.

First off, this was a rumor, it was shot down (again) by Reggie. Second off, Nintendo could have easily just used the Blu-ray format to allow for the greater capacity and again not let the system play Blu-ray movies. Lastly, the PS3 might have had motion controls since the day it was first released, but it did not have motion controls when it was first announced. That change came sometime after Nintendo announced the Wii was going to have a motion controlled controller. Get your facts straight next time.

-Shark2k

PFC5
11-07-2009, 10:15 PM
And just like I figured, this was not going to happen:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/11/06/nintendos-reggie-fils-aime-squashes-wii-hd-rumors-again/

-Shark2k

At some point they will likely go HD, but they wil deny it right up until the announcement since it would likely kill sales on the SD version and who would do that?

Chris Gerhard
11-08-2009, 03:55 AM
And just like I figured, this was not going to happen:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/11/06/nintendos-reggie-fils-aime-squashes-wii-hd-rumors-again/

-Shark2k

Something like a Wii HD is not official until Nintendo announces it and that hasn't happened yet. Until then Nintendo can just say the rumors aren't true, the Wii continues to be SD only. A major player in the video game business with nothing more than SD game consoles for a US market that should have 60% of households with an HDTV by the end of the year doesn't make any sense. Things that don't make sense are usually shown to be false. Nintendo can either make a Wii HD or other HD game console or become irrelevant is the way I see it.

I recall when the rumor broke that Warner is going to end HD DVD support and Toshiba is going to quit making HD DVD players. So many here liked to refer to recent quotes from Warner executives stating the company would continue to support HD DVD and quotes from Toshiba indicating Toshiba has no plans to drop support for HD DVD. Those quotes were true and rumors false until the companies announced those plans which made the rumors true, then the quotes worth reading were about why the decisions were made. Until the time is right for Nintendo to announce an HD game console, Nintendo is an SD game console company, nothing more, nothing less. I expect an announcement within a year.

Chris

railven
11-08-2009, 10:27 AM
Wii has the juice to upscale its buffer.

Blu-Ray on it would be over kill unless they revamp the hardware which would cost R&D and in the end might not be worth it.

A simple F/W update could enable 720p playback on all consoles and bam, Wii all of a sudden runs with the big dogs! As majority of PS360 games are 720p or less.

Shark2k
11-08-2009, 11:28 AM
At some point they will likely go HD, but they wil deny it right up until the announcement since it would likely kill sales on the SD version and who would do that?

Yeah, I agree with that. We'll just have to wait and see what they do though. The rumor is for the upgraded console to come out roughly a year from now (maybe 11 months) so we probably won't hear anything from Nintendo until maybe E3 (does that still go on?).

-Shark2k

Nevada_MO_Guy
01-01-2010, 03:45 AM
And just like I figured, this was not going to happen:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/11/06/nintendos-reggie-fils-aime-squashes-wii-hd-rumors-again/
He said "I don't know how forcefully we can say there is no Wii HD.". He didn't deny that there was no "Wii 2":)

http://www.maxconsole.net/content_img/wii2bluray1080p.jpg
Keeping the rumor alive. (http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=37744) :D
WiiNintendo.net (http://www.wiinintendo.net/2009/10/28/rumor-wii-2-to-have-blu-ray-drive-1080p-support-q3-2010-worldwide-release/)

MikeRox
01-01-2010, 08:10 AM
Wii has the juice to upscale its buffer.

Blu-Ray on it would be over kill unless they revamp the hardware which would cost R&D and in the end might not be worth it.

A simple F/W update could enable 720p playback on all consoles and bam, Wii all of a sudden runs with the big dogs! As majority of PS360 games are 720p or less.

True, though 720p wouldn't add polygons or lighting effects :p mind you been playing some fairly good looking Wii games lately.