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uh oh..another noob question! 'breaking in' plasma?

shreder75
09-18-2009, 06:32 AM
I just saw, browsing around here, on another thread that for the first couple hundred hours you should keep your picture/contrast setting set at or below 50

(I have a panasonic G10 plasma by the way..54")

I've had my TV for about a week and a half and never saw anything about this in the documentation so, being ignorant, I just set the contrast to taste to get as much pop from the TV as I can...

have I damaged my brand new TV?? :confused:

tRidiot
09-18-2009, 06:52 AM
I did it on my 54G10. Too expensive a toy to take chances with... I set it to 50 for regular watching, did not watch anything with black bars or static images for too long (couple of hours) and downloaded the burn-in DVD which plays full screens of solid colors at 30-second intervals. The burn-in DVD I set to 90 brightness/contrast just to make sure it got worked hard during that time. I would set it to run when I went to bed at night, then when I came home from work the next day switch back to regular programming for a few hours, then repeat.

It wasn't much hassle, took me about 20 minutes to download it, burn the disc, put it in my DVD player and set the input for the DVD to high brightness/contrast.

Did it help? I don't know.... I sure don't have any burned-in images. I also have a tiny bit more peace of mind that I've done what I could to keep my new TV in tip-top shape. One of my friends has an older plasma and he has some problems with IR, but no burn-in. No problems like that here. :D

Good luck, and great choice!

shreder75
09-18-2009, 07:18 AM
I did it on my 54G10. Too expensive a toy to take chances with... I set it to 50 for regular watching, did not watch anything with black bars or static images for too long (couple of hours) and downloaded the burn-in DVD which plays full screens of solid colors at 30-second intervals. The burn-in DVD I set to 90 brightness/contrast just to make sure it got worked hard during that time. I would set it to run when I went to bed at night, then when I came home from work the next day switch back to regular programming for a few hours, then repeat.

It wasn't much hassle, took me about 20 minutes to download it, burn the disc, put it in my DVD player and set the input for the DVD to high brightness/contrast.

Did it help? I don't know.... I sure don't have any burned-in images. I also have a tiny bit more peace of mind that I've done what I could to keep my new TV in tip-top shape. One of my friends has an older plasma and he has some problems with IR, but no burn-in. No problems like that here. :D

Good luck, and great choice!

since you mentioned it I figured I'd ask

the difference between IR and Burn In? I know of older plasmas (even newer ones) and the burn in issue..but not sure I know what makes that different than image retention?

tRidiot
09-18-2009, 07:23 AM
Some others here might be better at explaining it to me. IR is a retained image for a short period of time, such as seeing a ghost on the screen when it goes black, etc. Burn-in is much more permanent and can last for days or even forever.

I keep seeing this picture in my head... I saw a guy selling a whole ton of plasma displays on a forum he got from an airport when they upgraded all their displays. Some were broken, but he had pictures up of some of them, and even with the displays turned OFF, I could still see the picture on the screens of the flight departure/arrivals schedules!

Now THAT'S BURN-IN!

IR is a much less permanent problem, but it can still be annoying. Seeing that football score on the screen for a few minutes after you've switched off the ballgame and are watching a movie with the wife.... ugh.

1happyguy
09-18-2009, 07:27 AM
There are a few board members like Loves2watch who can answer your question!! I don't know anything about Plasmas!

shreder75
09-18-2009, 07:30 AM
ohhh..i see..so IR is like a temporary or short-lived burn in...like you said..when the screen goes completely black and you see a ghost of something that was just on the screen for a short time...

that I most definetly do NOT have! thankfully..lol..when a show goes to commercial or fades to black or whatever, it's black as tar! no ghost nothin'! so I guess I'm good to go thus far..lol

pappylap
09-18-2009, 08:29 AM
The first 200 hundred hours or so has very little to do with burn-in. Plasma phosphor cells age and during the first hours of use you would ideally like for all of the phosphor cells to age at the same time and at the same rate therefore it is desirable to not view letterbox or 4X3 images as this will keep some of the plasma cells dormant and inactive.... inactive cells do not age at the same rate as the active cells and therefore can appear slightly different than the aged cells when displaying an image....

Using the downladable images Loves 2 can link you too will give your new plasma a video workout if you will, having all cells display different colors at different intensities will ensure all cells are worked out at the same rate and at the same level during the first 200 hours or so.....

shreder75
09-18-2009, 08:31 AM
The first 200 hundred hours or so has very little to do with burn-in. Plasma phosphor cells age and during the first hours of use you would ideally like for all of the phosphor cells to age at the same time and at the same rate therfore it is desirable to not view letterbox or 4X3 images as this will keep some of the plasma cells dormant and inactive.... inactive cells do not age at the same rate as the active cells and therfore can appear slightly different than the aged cells when displaying an image....

I always view on full anyway, whether it's native 4:3 or not...so I should be ok as far as that's concerned

tRidiot
09-18-2009, 08:33 AM
The first 200 hundred hours or so has very little to do with burn-in. Plasma phosphor cells age and during the first hours of use you would ideally like for all of the phosphor cells to age at the same time and at the same rate therefore it is desirable to not view letterbox or 4X3 images as this will keep some of the plasma cells dormant and inactive.... inactive cells do not age at the same rate as the active cells and therfore can appear slightly different than the aged cells when displaying an image....

Is that what you meant to say? All the research I have done said that the first 100-200 hours are THE MOST susceptible to burn-in, for exactly the reasons that you described, especially if watching anything in 4:3 or letterbox for an extended period during this timeframe.

Oh well, all I know is, my set looks great, has ZERO IR or burn-in, and I feel more comfortable that I spent the time to do everything I could to reduce the chances of it.

me = happy

pappylap
09-18-2009, 08:40 AM
Using the downladable images Loves 2 can link you too will give your new plasma a video workout if you will, having all cells display different colors at different intensities will ensure all cells are worked out at the same rate and at the same level during the first 200 hours or so.....

Loves2Watch
09-18-2009, 09:30 AM
Here you go -

http://www.eaprogramming.com/downloads/download_main.htm

hunter dude
09-22-2009, 01:03 PM
Thanks for the link loves2watch. That DVD is working it's magic on my new Panny 50X1... only 97-197 hours to go.... haha.

Thanks again

Loves2Watch
09-22-2009, 06:57 PM
Thanks for the link loves2watch. That DVD is working it's magic on my new Panny 50X1... only 97-197 hours to go.... haha.

Thanks again

Have fun...:D

GMen42
09-22-2009, 07:26 PM
Sorry to thread jack here, but does the breaking in have to happen in HD or can I do it on standard cable as well?

Also, does it matter wether I use the DVD or the SD card?

Loves2Watch
09-22-2009, 08:16 PM
Sorry to thread jack here, but does the breaking in have to happen in HD or can I do it on standard cable as well?

Also, does it matter wether I use the DVD or the SD card?

You are breaking in the TV not an individual input.

Either the DVD or SD card. The same results will apply.

GMen42
09-22-2009, 08:21 PM
You are breaking in the TV not an individual input.

Either the DVD or SD card. The same results will apply.

Sounds good. Thanks.

What format should it be in? Zoom? Full? etc.

Loves2Watch
09-22-2009, 08:23 PM
Sounds good. Thanks.

What format should it be in? Zoom? Full? etc.

Full as it is in a 16x9 format.

pappylap
09-22-2009, 09:48 PM
You are breaking in the TV not an individual input.

Yup, you are makin' those phospherous cells do what phospherous cells are supposed to do.......:banana:.