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Suggestions on 30" HDTV?

HDPapi
07-20-2005, 10:41 AM
Hey everybody,

New to the forum. Been lurking for about a week. Very informative. Sorry for the long post. Looking for a 30" direct-view CRT widescreen HDTV. Money is an issue (I'd like to keep it under a grand, not including service plan). The two Toshiba models I'm considereing (30HFX84 and 30HF85) are over $200 apart. I know the HFX has two HDMI inputs, but is there a noticeable difference in picture quality? Also looking at the 30" Sony models (XS955 and HS 420). And I've read here that the Samsung Slimfit may have geometry issues (though it has a built in tuner, like the XS955). I might be able to stretch the budget for the XS955 (unless someone can tell me that they've seen it under $1000, which would be awesome!) Also I haven't seen much on the LG. The major problem is that the electronic stores (even in NYC) usually have their HD feeds going into the plasmas and LCD's so it's tough to compare picture quality among models and manufacturers. Anyone who owns these sets (or have seen them) have any recommendations? Any other models I haven't considered (Panasonic?) Thanks in advance for your help!

hdballa
07-20-2005, 08:52 PM
I just bought the 30XS955 a month ago and i love it. First off its a sony, secondly it has a super fine pitch, a sub inside, and even a built in hd tuner! And to top that off, I found if for $999 but I only had to pay $699 at my local best buy because of trade credits and a 10% off coupon! To answer your question i say GO WITH THE 30XS955! :cool:

mybuddy
07-20-2005, 09:30 PM
I purchased a new 30" Samsung, Model TX-R3079WH, about 2 months ago. Its the first of a new generation of slimmer (less depth) TVs with CRT picture tubes. Its only 16" deep and weighs 120 lbs. It also has a built-in HD tuner. It also has numerous adjustment features to fine tune the picture and sound.
I have been very pleased with the picture and sound quality. I haven't experienced any problems with the bowing or any other picture distortions with this set. This is the 2nd 30" Samsung that I've owned and have experience good quality and realiability from this mfg.
I purchased it from Circuit City on sale for $899. I think that the regular price was $999. This is a set that you might want to seriously consider buying. Good Luck!

Jimbos
07-20-2005, 09:39 PM
HDPapi,
Go with the 30" Sony XS if you cannot go any larger, If possible check out the 34" Sony, you may be happier with the larger screen, being it's 16x9 now.

If that is not possible, you will enjoy the 30" XS very well.

Jimbo

Cyberman
07-20-2005, 10:49 PM
I own the Sony 30HS420 and it is an awesome set. The latest model is the XS955 and would have purchased that one but I couldn't turn down the low price ($800.00) I paid for the HS420. I'm very satisfied. Hope this helps you decide.

ja2935
07-21-2005, 09:29 AM
Don't dismiss the Toshiba options - the 34" is now down to about $1200 (Sears). It is a very neat cabinet design - the bigger brother of the 30" models. The cabinet is actually about the same width as the 30" Sony. The extra 4" would be really worth it. I have the 34HF84 and am very pleased with the picture quality on HD, SD and DVDs.

HDPapi
07-21-2005, 02:58 PM
I appreciate all of the suggestions. I've seen some pretty good prices on the 30hf85, but no one in NYC (or online) seems to have the Samsung slimfit in stock. I have weight and space constraints in my small NYC pad, so I pretty much gotta go 30" (which will move to the bedroom when I get my massive loft . . . someday). Anyone know anything about the 30" LG? Here's the link:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7015829&type=product&productCategoryId=cat03002&id=1099393182544

Thanks!

Emsurfer
07-21-2005, 03:27 PM
Go with the SONY KV30HS420 or the Panasonic CT30WX15 as toss-up first choices and then the Toshiba 30HF85 as your second choice. Stay away from the Samsung and LG. LG used to be called "Goldstar". Remember the cheap hotel TVs from the 70's and 80's? Consider the Philips 30PW9100D/37 or 30PW9110D/37 as a distant 3rd option.

waltchan
07-21-2005, 09:46 PM
Didn't the hotels in the 70s and 80s use Magnavox, RCA, and Zenith TVs? There's no reason why you should encourage people to stay away from the Samsung and LG. Reliability and built quality have improved somewhat later in the years.

Cyberman
07-22-2005, 02:07 AM
So LG used to be Goldstar? Wow I've had my Goldstar microwave for over ten years. Does this mean they have good household appliances? Perhaps. The only electronic with the LG brand name I've owned so far is a camera phone. Since I've owned it for the last two years I've experienced no problems. So does this mean LG makes good electronics?

ja2935
07-22-2005, 07:13 AM
I believe Zenith and LG are part of the same company.

HDPapi
07-22-2005, 10:47 AM
My folks are still using the Goldstar TV I bought in 1989 or 1990 for their bedroom tv! Not the greatest picture quality in the world, granted, but it still works.

RSawdey
07-22-2005, 11:27 AM
LG bought Zenith, which included the patents for the 8-VSB ATSC uses for over the air... it was the start of their push to remake themselves from a bargin price TV maker to a DIGITAL TV company with some respect... their current tuner is thought to be the best available... they're selling chips to everybody. Early digital TVs from them have had poor quality control, owners seem to like them okay when they work...

Emsurfer
07-22-2005, 11:54 AM
Didn't the hotels in the 70s and 80s use Magnavox, RCA, and Zenith TVs? There's no reason why you should encourage people to stay away from the Samsung and LG. Reliability and built quality have improved somewhat later in the years.

They also used Goldstar. Above, you just named the peers of LG and Samsung. Look at the consumer satisfaction ratings of LG and Samsung vs. Toshiba. There's absolutely "no reason why you should encourage people to stay away from [Toshiba]".

HDPapi
07-26-2005, 10:08 AM
I have found a Toshiba 34HF85 for the same price as a Sony 30XS955, both right around my budget of $1000. As ja2935 says, I would appreciate the extra screen real estate (if I can get around my entertainment center weight issues). Aside from the fact that the Sony has a built in tuner (don't really need it with Time Warner cable box), is there any reason to still consider the Sony? Is the picture quality gonna be that much better than the Toshiba?

Jerm357
09-03-2005, 09:03 PM
I sure hope so cus I just bought the Sony KD-30XS955 at best buy for $1099.99 with a $50.00 best buy card. Free shipping but they charge tax

shellback
09-03-2005, 11:19 PM
Forget that it's Sony and Toshiba. If Pixel numbers are the same then any 30" is going to have smaller pixels than a 34" unit. Your own viewing has to decide whether it satifies your needs. I personally like the Toshiba unit.

petej
09-05-2005, 01:33 PM
Yesterday I compared side by side several 30" tv's, including the less expensive Sony's, the Samsung slim model, the Toshiba 34" etc. I decided to go with the Sony 30xs955 for $950. While the Toshiba 34" generally looked fine and costs the same as the 30xs955, the Sony super fine dot pitch (1400 line resolution on the Sony verses the 800 -850 on all the other models) won my eyes over. In fact, I'd have to say that the super fine dot pitch Sony tube looks as good or better than even much more expensive HD tv's that I viewed.

xXRustyC5Xx
09-10-2005, 03:53 PM
I got a sanyo 30 cant beat the price.

Cody177
09-12-2005, 10:48 PM
I bought the LG 30" from Best Buy in August and within a week noticed a wide cream colored streak on the right side of the screen. The sound system was awesome though. I had a new TV delivered and this one is doing the same thing. When I talked to the folks at Best Buy, they insisted that LG simply bought Goldstar and Zenith factories and were producing their own TV's there. He said LG was an excellent company and not a "front" (so to speak) for the lesser quality Goldstar and Zenith products. Nothing personal to people who like the Goldstar or Zenith products... but I simply do not want one of them.

I'm losing faith in the LG set and am trying to decide if I ask to switch it for either the Toshiba or Samsung 30". The Samsung's picture was significantly better than the LG but I read some reviews that people had major issues with that set including terrible DVD playback without an HDMI DVD player and HDMI cable. They said the picture was horrible watching standard TV and the sound system was pathetic. Others said the picture was distorted and had vertical lines running through it. Someone also mentioned that if you use HDMI or component cables, you can't hook it up to a surround sound system.

I originally was looking at the Toshiba (I'm very brand loyal to them) but the LG and Samsung had built-in tuners and better picture quality when I first went looking.

Guess I'm looking for some input here, on what to do. I don't want to end up with another TV that I have issues with and the picture quality seems to switch around whenever I go looking at them. Makes me wonder what will happen when they get into my home.

Any suggestions, help, info? :o
Thanks so much for your help

Marty1080i
09-16-2005, 08:47 PM
Cody,
I too am also new to this forum and just recently bought the Tosh 30HF85C. I'm quite happy with it, despite the fact that I'm hoping to get it professionally calibrated by a certified technician. I got the set and a full 5-year parts-and-labour warranty for just under $1000! I should mention however that my employee discount helped alot. Regardless, I simply suggest the Toshiba, it will look better once you get it home and calibrated to how you like it. I never liked to judge a tv's picture by seeing it in the store anyhow. I admit a second HDMI input would be nice (I'm currently using the HDMI for my BEV 6100 hd receiver), but it's no biggie to switch between two devices, once I get an upscaling dvd player. Happy shopping and good luck! :D

ja2935
09-16-2005, 08:54 PM
Are you talking $1000 Canadian? You can get the 34" Toshiba for just under $1000 US here.

Cody177
09-17-2005, 12:44 AM
Well, I jumped and decided to go for the Samsung. The picture quality (crisp with no edge shadowing) was just so good compared to the Toshiba and I really wanted the built in tuner. I got it for $899 and am getting it delivered for free. I've got my fingers crossed that this one works out better than the LG. I still love Toshiba so maybe the next one I get will be a Toshiba :).

Thanks for you response :)