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View Poll Results: 3D technology.. Here to say, or just hype
Here To Stay 41 53.25%
Just Hype (Will fade like HD-DVD) 36 46.75%
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3D Movies.... Love to watch, or just HYPE.

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Old 03-09-2010, 09:46 PM   #31  
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Hype? No - not at all. Primarily, the only 3D movies you could see in your home was Anaglyph 3D - the Red/Cyan cardboard glasses.
Yeah, everybody wants some of those

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Now you can buy true, full color, stereoscopic 3D for your home - the same as you see in digital cinemas today.
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. What can I buy and exactly where can I buy it?

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And I really have to laugh - 3D has ALWAYS required wearing glasses of some kind.
Laugh if you will, this is precisely why 3D has never succeeded.
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Autostereoscopic 3D (no glasses) is at least 7 to 10 years away.
We'll see won't we?
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If you want 3D in your home - it is there for you. You will have acces to movies, live sports and other events in S3D.
You speak in the present tense. Did I miss something?

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70% of the $2.65 BILLION earned by Avatar came from 3D theaters.

Each of the live sporting events telecast to digital 3D theaters were great successes. At hefty premiums even over a 3D movie.

Everyone who owns a PS3 will be getting 2 firmware upgrades from Sony. The first gives it 3D gaming ability and the 2nd gives it the ability to play 3D BD's. 10 million PS3's in the USA?

There are 4 million 3D Ready DLP RPTV HDTV's by Mits and Samsung. All you need is a 3DC-1000 3D format converter (reportedly to sell for about $100)

Yes = you will need some 3D active shutter glasses which are priced at all different levels,
You rattle off some impressive stuff, but selling this whole thing to the general public will make selling Blu-ray look like a day at the beach. It's one thing for a $400 million movie to draw them in, but how that translates to an expensive and permanent commitment in the average household is questionable.

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What about them? They won't buy a 3DTV. Think of all the blind people that can't drive cars.

If they want 3DTV - and they wear glasses, they will make some changes. It is all about desire.
Ah yes, let them eat cake. The only reason I bring them up is that here is a significant segment of the population that won't be buying any part of the hype.
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There were approx. 2 million LD owners in the USA after 20 years. 3DTV owners will crush that statistic.

They continue to make more and more 3D movies. The "new 3D craze" started in 2005 and is only getting stronger. In 2009 $1B of BO revenue came from 3D. 2009 was the best year ever for Hollywood - and Avatar had very little to do with it. 2010 is the year of Avatar.

Say what you want about 3D. It has been over 55 years and it's STILL with us , stronger and more popular than ever before with the best technology ever offered.
Yeah, well if your figures are correct then that still doesn't guarantee much of anything will happen in the average home. Certainly the movie theaters will change. They have to given the abysmal ticket sales in the last decade. I just don't believe the average person has the incentive and desire to make that kind of change in the home. What has it been...almost 10 years and still only 50% homes with HDTVs in them? It's going to be one hell of a lot longer than that before 50% of the population sit in front of their 42" screens with shutter glasses on.
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3DTV will become a force in the market, a niche, but a force none the less. With Avatar,,and now the release of TRON (12/2010) me see's a select few jumping on the bandwagon (again) for 3D. For me,,,it's all about the glasses. Just the thought of having them next to me pile of remotes (much less wearing them) is enough to dissuade any 3D purchase's. One thing that might be great for the industry,,is the enhanced 2D effect that the mfgs. will be bringing to market with their new sets. On the other hand,,,me will not be paying any subscription service (direct,komkast,etc) for anything in 3D.
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Yeah, everybody wants some of those
Probably added to that 10% you mentioned

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I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. What can I buy and exactly where can I buy it?
How can you say you know about 3D when you don't know what Stereoscopic 3D is?

http://www.highdefforum.com/upcoming...d-formats.html

You can buy it tomorrow (today) at Best Buy


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Laugh if you will, this is precisely why 3D has never succeeded.
I am laughing cause here we are - 2010 and 3D is with us!

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We'll see won't we?
Nothing to see - the hurdles are great. It is not a new tech and there have been very few advancements made.

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You speak in the present tense. Did I miss something?
I guess you did. Tomorrow - 3/10 - that is today () Panasonic and Samsung 3DTV setups go on sale. The bundles include a 3DTV, a 3D BD player, and the 3D active shutter glasses. Samsung will include Monsters vs, Aliens - a brand new and the first 3D BD while Panasonic will include (???) a 3D BD sampler disc.

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You rattle off some impressive stuff, but selling this whole thing to the general public will make selling Blu-ray look like a day at the beach. It's one thing for a $400 million movie to draw them in, but how that translates to an expensive and permanent commitment in the average household is questionable.
The Early Adopter! He bought first into HD, first into BD and now first into 3D.

Since when is a $3000 price tag - "for the masses?"

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Ah yes, let them eat cake. The only reason I bring them up is that here is a significant segment of the population that won't be buying any part of the hype.
Could say the same thing about BD.

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Yeah, well if your figures are correct then that still doesn't guarantee much of anything will happen in the average home. Certainly the movie theaters will change. They have to given the abysmal ticket sales in the last decade. I just don't believe the average person has the incentive and desire to make that kind of change in the home. What has it been...almost 10 years and still only 50% homes with HDTVs in them? It's going to be one hell of a lot longer than that before 50% of the population sit in front of their 42" screens with shutter glasses on.
Ah - very soon (year or 2) ALL HDTVs will be 3D ready. Just like all BD players will be 3D BD players. Just buy the glasses and you are ready to watch 3D. Then just add the content.
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3DTV will become a force in the market, a niche, but a force none the less. With Avatar,,and now the release of TRON (12/2010) me see's a select few jumping on the bandwagon (again) for 3D. For me,,,it's all about the glasses. Just the thought of having them next to me pile of remotes (much less wearing them) is enough to dissuade any 3D purchase's. One thing that might be great for the industry,,is the enhanced 2D effect that the mfgs. will be bringing to market with their new sets. On the other hand,,,me will not be paying any subscription service (direct,komkast,etc) for anything in 3D.
LMAO! You are funny!

First you say you will not be buying a 3DTV because the glasses are a deal breaker, Then you go on to say you aren't going to pay for 3D subscription service.

LMFAO! What would you watch that 3D sub service on?

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If the consumer electronics companies are relying on this thread as their study to determine whether or not to go forward with 3D, it appears it is dead. I thought this new technology would be optimistically embraced here. I think maybe the negative votes here come without much reading and consideration on the topic.

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Ah - very soon (year or 2) ALL HDTVs will be 3D ready. Just like all BD players will be 3D BD players. Just buy the glasses and you are ready to watch 3D. Then just add the content.
Great. Digital artifacts and motion blur in 3D. I can't wait.
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Great. Digital artifacts and motion blur in 3D. I can't wait.
WOW! That is what you see on BD?
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I can buy stereoscopic 3D at Best Buy? I was in my local one yesterday afternoon. Didn't see any sign of it.
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WOW! That is what you see on BD?
Some of it is on the BD, but most of it's on the displays. If you don't see it, you should keep what you have. It was specifically designed with you in mind.

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If the consumer electronics companies are relying on this thread as their study to determine whether or not to go forward with 3D, it appears it is dead. I thought this new technology would be optimistically embraced here. I think maybe the negative votes here come without much reading and consideration on the topic.

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The industry has already made up its mind, so whatever is said here will have no effect. Except for the glasses the plan is to make everybody pay for 3D, whether they want it or not. Sweet.

So Chris, if I read and contemplate more, I'll get warm and fuzzy? Look, before somebody labels me a Luddite, let me say that I'm not against progress. Wouldn't be on this forum if I were. It's just that I can't see this going mainstream anytime soon. Or even 10% for that matter.

It won't be a surprise to anyone on this thread when I say I've never been an early adopter. I've never had the money to buy everything new that comes down the pike. I have to see value and convenience on anything new to me before I buy in. I could be wrong but I just can't see that happening anytime soon.
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I can buy stereoscopic 3D at Best Buy? I was in my local one yesterday afternoon. Didn't see any sign of it.
The kick off is today - you got there a day early and not all BB's will have S3D today. They will be added to stores as the weeks progress
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Some of it is on the BD, but most of it's on the displays. If you don't see it, you should keep what you have. It was specifically designed with you in mind.
On the displays?
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LMAO! You are funny!

First you say you will not be buying a 3DTV because the glasses are a deal breaker, Then you go on to say you aren't going to pay for 3D subscription service.

LMFAO! What would you watch that 3D sub service on?

guess me was making 2 points. Number one be the glasses,,,number two would be any subscription for 3D. Granted yup,,,some 3dTV's will be bought. Some 3D BD players will be sold,,the PS3 will have some FW updates,,,some movies will be sold. But the alchemy of it all put together just makes for a tough sale to the masses. Especially the first time junior plops his arse on the couch,,,effectively breaking a pair of $50 shutter glasses left behind at the last piss break. Lee, me understands your enthusiasm but really fail to see meself buying into the hype.
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The industry has already made up its mind, so whatever is said here will have no effect. Except for the glasses the plan is to make everybody pay for 3D, whether they want it or not. Sweet.
Would that be like to plan to make all optical disc players BD players, getting rid of DVD players, making people pay for BD whether they want it or not?

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So Chris, if I read and contemplate more, I'll get warm and fuzzy? Look, before somebody labels me a Luddite, let me say that I'm not against progress. Wouldn't be on this forum if I were. It's just that I can't see this going mainstream anytime soon. Or even 10% for that matter.
Define "soon." How many years is "soon?"

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It won't be a surprise to anyone on this thread when I say I've never been an early adopter. I've never had the money to buy everything new that comes down the pike. I have to see value and convenience on anything new to me before I buy in. I could be wrong but I just can't see that happening anytime soon.
You aren't thinking like an early adopter because by your own admission - you aren't one. No surprise at your skepticism.
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On the displays?
Yes. It certainly isn't in the source. Not very much of it, anyway. BD compression is lossy (so is MPEG, for that matter). Your display has some work to do, and that's where the problems begin, not counting the fact that all BD players don't behave that meticulously. The better player/display setups are equipped to fill in missing color information with, well, with calculated guesswork. Some displays do that better than others. Then the display has to convert the digital info to analog at the front panel. That doesn't even count decoder and CIE gamut errors, which tend to run rampant on LCD's in particular. Now, consider all the really bad HDMI cables out there, data transmission errors and no HDMI circuitry to handle it, and . . .

Why? What did you think I was referring to?
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