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Old 08-06-2008, 01:34 PM   #1
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I am thinkng of going with fios because of the much cheaper rates. I have been a Directv customer for 7 years...have the HD packages and everything. Is it worth my while to change over? I have heard a lot of negative things on this thread about Verizon Fios. Can anyone give me any input? Thanks.

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Old 08-06-2008, 02:01 PM   #2
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FIOS has the best signal you can get. In most instances, it is rock solid. Very few outages. They are adding many new HD channels in the next few months, their SD is better than others as well. Sometimes, when they first install your equipment there are a few glitches with old wiring in your home that needs updating, or something like that, but they work with you to get it fixed.

If you get one of their bundles, you get consistant, very fast and solid performing internet and their phone service is good, they provide a 2 hour back up battery system if power goes out.

I am not a fan of their movie packages but that is because Starz, Showtime, etc., repeat movies for years and for less money I prefer blockbuster.com for my movies. I also find their VOD movies lacking for the price and selection.

Their billing systems are a work in progress and can be very confusing and annoying. But if you can call them enuf, it gets fixed in time.

I appreciate their commitment to providing a state of the art system for our digital needs and would actually factor in whether or not FIOS was available in an area if I were to move.

I don't work for them, it's just that after years of Comcast Cable company's sorry excuses for video and internet delivery, I find FIOS excellent. At least FIOS is giving us new technology, not patching the old junk and telling us how wonderful it is.

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Thanks a lot! I appreciate your inputs. To say you'd look for it brfore moving says a lot!!!
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The backup battery lasts 8 hours or so, not 2 .. I dont know how much it varies if youre actually talking on it or not.
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The backup battery lasts 8 hours or so, not 2 .. I dont know how much it varies if youre actually talking on it or not.
...and has a 10-minute emergency capability that the user can implement if they need to make a call. (The backup is strictly for voice, not data or TV.)
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Regarding your comment about bad reviews on here, you have to remember that people come to discussion boards to complain. They don't come to say, "Yeah, my service works fine." So, you have to keep that in mind when you read this stuff. There are tons of people out there, like me, that have zero issues with FiOS and love it.

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Regarding your comment about bad reviews on here, you have to remember that people come to discussion boards to complain. They don't come to say, "Yeah, my service works fine." So, you have to keep that in mind when you read this stuff. There are tons of people out there, like me, that have zero issues with FiOS and love it.

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Well said Joe. I've has zero issues with FiOS also.
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I was a DTV customer for 8 years, the last 2 of which with HD programming. My HD DVR was the HR20-700. I switched to FIOS reluctantly as I moved from Florida to NJ, and my new house is in the middle of the woods with lots of trees and the DTV HD signal could not reach my house.

The DTV DVR is far superior to that of FIOS. Channel flipping is much faster and it held many more hours of HD recording (I realize that FIOS signal is much less compressed, so you do get a bit more quality with FIOS). The functionality of the DVRs is much better for DTV. I've had (what has deemed to be as 'known problems' here) problems with shows not recording any longer. I've also had problems where a recorded show does not play. In the 4 months I've had FIOS, this has happened twice.

When you are flipping through the guide and want info on a movie, it does not tell you who the actors are, so if you are trying to decide if you want to record a movie you never heard of, all it tells you when you hit the INFO button is the year it was made and what it is about. I've been 'surprised' by movies I recorded that have A-list movie stars.

Finally, the initial setup was EXTREMELY painful! My first order disappeared and they never showed up. The 2nd appointment the guy did not show until the following day. The billing for the first 3 months was incorrect, as they charged me for a bunch of things I never signed up for. Also, FIOS charges you $15 for every HD DVR you have, unlike DTV where the 1st box is free, and you pay $5 for every extra. I signed up for the $99 phone, internet & TV package, and my bill is $166 (I have 3 HD DVRs). So all in, I'm paying about the same as I did in Florida for the 3 services combined.

People say the image is superior, but I truly can't tell the difference.

I'm really thinking of chopping down some trees so I can get my DTV back! (Just kidding for the tree-huggers out there).
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Also, FIOS charges you $15 for every HD DVR you have, unlike DTV where the 1st box is free, and you pay $5 for every extra. .
.... and what about the up-front fee's DirecTV charges you UP FRONT for the equipment ?? For 3 HD-DVR's you pay almost $500 for equipment up front ! lol... and you STILL have to pay the monthly fee's AND return the equipment when youre all done. ...

I also cant stand how you need two sets of coax cables running to each DirecTv DVR .. YUCK.

These insane DirecTV costs for equipment is the same reason Im still with Cablevision.. and waiting for FiOS to come down my street.
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.... and what about the up-front fee's DirecTV charges you UP FRONT for the equipment ?? For 3 HD-DVR's you pay almost $500 for equipment up front ! lol... and you STILL have to pay the monthly fee's AND return the equipment when youre all done. ...

I also cant stand how you need two sets of coax cables running to each DirecTv DVR .. YUCK.

These insane DirecTV costs for equipment is the same reason Im still with Cablevision.. and waiting for FiOS to come down my street.
Actually, the YUCK part is going away. DirecTV can now run one cable to your DVR. I can't remember the technology, but it was announced a month or two ago.

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That is a Single Wire Multiswitch. Can be very expensive to the point that it is cheaper to run cables usually.
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That is a Single Wire Multiswitch. Can be very expensive to the point that it is cheaper to run cables usually.
Right - and they're also rolling out their SWM Line dish, which provides (from what I understand) a single wire from the dish to feed the entire house. However, rollout has been very slow. They're only in very select markets, with no word on when the new dish will be available in the rest of the country, and for the time being they're only giving them to new customers.

I believe they also have stand-alone SWMs which can act like standard cable splitters. Currently, multiswitches require that all the lines from your dish be input into the multiswitch. From there, the output cables run out to all your devices. The problem with this approach is that the multi-switch needs to be in a central location - so you're still running 2 cables to each DVR. The SWM allows you to split a single cable, again much like a standard cable splitter. Not sure how much they run, or how widely available they are. But I have to agree with you rbink, I can't imagine it's a cheap solution - at least not currently.
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One more post on this - getting back to the OP. I was a DirecTV customer for 5 years. Never had HD with them. I was a very happy customer until I got an HDTV, and DirecTV wanted $300 (+$20 s&h) for their HD DVR. I just couldn't swallow that one, so I looked around, and gave fios a try. One thing to consider - DirecTV lets you suspend your account for a period of time, and Verizon does (or at least did - you may want to confirm this) offers a money-back guarantee. Earlier this year they offered a whopping 90-day trial - don't know if it's still that generous, so I would ask. I suspended my DirecTV account, and hooked up fios, figuring that I had a few weeks (30 days at the time) to make up my mind. I was pretty much convinced within the first couple of days. As others have already said, fios has some nice advantages, including:

- More channels - I know directv currently has more of their channels in HD, but that's about to change. I know - DirecTV is claiming 130 national HD channels, but if you look at their list, that includes all of their HD RSNs, 8 national network feeds (both east and west coast), and all of their PPV channels. After this transition that verizon is going through, they will really have more true HD channels than anyone... with gobs of room for more. Also (and this is the main point here), Verizon has more channels overall. Yeah, I love HD as much as anyone, but for the time being there's still alot of great SD content out there.

- PQ - I thought my DirecTV SD looked really nice on my 27" SDTV - and less so on my 32" HDTV. Again, I've never had DirecTV's HD service so I really can't compare on that front. But from what I've seen, the PQ on fios is just so much nicer than it was on DirecTV. I still watch stuff on that 27" SDTV from time to time, and I continue to be amazed at the SD PQ. And the HD is jaw-dropping.

- VOD - Yeah, DirecTV is starting to roll out their version, which requires a high speed internet connection, and you have to have their HD DVR. It's not the same thing. Granted, Verizon isn't up to snuff with say Comcast on the VOD front, but they have been adding content.

- Local stuff - Along with the $320 investment for DirecTV's HD DVR, I would also had to have shelled out at least another $80 or so for an antenna to get all my local channels in HD with DirecTV. These are a biggie for me - with FiOS I get all my local channels - SD, HD, and subchannels. I also now get CSN Philly which just wasn't available on DirecTV, and I get my local weather on the 8's again.

- No rain fade. Granted, when I had DirecTV's service, it would take a serious storm for me to lose picture. So, I would get periodic interruptions - maybe 6 - 10 times a year, for about 10 - 15 minutes each. Not horrible. And I know people will tell you that if cable goes out, it's out for a lot longer. That may be true, but in the 15 months I've had fios TV, I've yet to have a single outage. Their service really is pretty solid. And their internet service is just out of this world.

As an aside, even if you don't get their TV service, I would highly recommend their internet service. It's totally rock solid. I've been a fios internet customer for about 2 1/2 years now, and we've had a grand total of one outage (and a short one at that). The speeds are impressive, and consistent as hell. I get my full 10meg no matter what time of day or night I'm on line. And, as I can attest, fios internet works just fine with directv service.

I will say one thing - if you're heavily into specialty sports programming (e.g. NFL ST) then FiOS isn't the place for you - at least not right now. But for overall TV service, I've been extremely happy with them.

One comment - in replying to someone who posted a response on this thread comparing the DirecTV DVR and the Motorola DVR that Verizon uses - I do agree that there are some short-comings with the DVR, but speed of channel changes is NOT one of them. I'm not sure what you're seeing, but my R15s (the DirecTV SD DVRs that I had) were slow as hell. This moto dvr is lightning fast when compared to those DVRs. In every aspect - especially in channel changes - scrolling through the guide is instantaneous. The only slowness I've seen is in getting into VOD sometimes, but even that's improved considerably in recent months.
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I've been a Directv customer for 10 years. I only kept Directv because of the NFL Sunday Ticket. However, I was only watching a handful of games and was tired of being nickel and dimed by Directv when I could easily do a bundle package with Verizon and gain FiOS (TV and Internet) with more HD channels and way faster Internet speed at a cheaper monthly rate. No brainer, right? So the verdict:

- Pitcure quality: I find Fios and Directv very similiar. However, at night the colors in Fios seem a tad more vibrant. I've come to realize proper room lighting is important and shouldn't be underestimated. My only complaint is with Fios some commercials or on-location News reporting segements seem like they lose their quality (if not originally filmed with an HD camera????)....even on the HD channels. Seems a little more balanced on the Directv HD channels. But...channels like ESPN, National Geographic, or MLB network with HD 100% in mind are second to none in Fios.

- Output sound: I was so focused on picture quality that I forgot about sound consideration. Turns out the digital output sound in Fios just blows away Directv. I was hearing things I would never hear on my 10 year old Sony with Fios. So good in fact I went out and bought a new audio receiver.

- DVR: The Directv DVR disk space holds way more than the Fios Motorolla DVR. Very dissappointed in this aspect from Verizon. I recorded a 2-hour Rush (HD) documentary and it took up about 8-10% of disk space. That's crazy. However, the Directv DVR was cumbersomely slow to respond to remote control clicks (which was extremely annoying) and haven't had this issue with Verizon's DVR yet. Also, much cooler features with the Fios DVR widgets that you can access (Facebook, YouTube, etc). Also, we have one DVR and can access a recorded program in all other rooms. It's my understanding Directv is about to offer this feature soon but as of recent it wasn't an option. In regards to channel flipping I find both DVR's a little sluggish but slightly faster and consistent with the Fios DVR.

- HD Channel Lineup: First off, I don't even watch non-HD channels anymore so I'm only focusing on HD channels. It's hard to watch a non-HD channel once you get used to everything HD. Seems like you get more HD channels with Fios and they're adding more HD channels at a faster rate compared to Directv.

- Remote Controls: I've had problems with the Fios RC144 Phillips remote and getting it to recognize my new Samsung Blu-Ray and Onkyo receiver. Can't compare to Directv's because I bought the new items I mentioned just days ago. But, I suspect it would be a similiar issue and personally think it's worth getting a higher end all-in-one remote like a Harmony One where none of this is an issue...but's that's just me.

So...all-in-all, considering that Fios offers the "Red Zone" channel I'm satisfied with the NFL games in that regards. I consider the pitcure quality a draw with the reasons stated above. DVR is a draw depending if you value disk space or DVR response more with a few more options. The sound quality output and more available HD channels (at a cheaper price) is just way better with Fios and won me over. It's my understanding that Directv isn't in the best financial shape as a company from recent news articles so I'm not suprised with the crazy attempts to charge $300 for new updated equipment (DVR) requests, $15 for HBO, $5 mthly for a non-HD standard reciver, $10 mthly for a HD standard receiver, NFL ticket going up in $, etc, etc. It just got old. Very happy I made the switch. The lighning fast Fios Internet is reason enough plus the additional HD channels at a cheper price in a nutshell. Plus...I'm now able to access Netflix ($8.99 mthly) and stream movies without any download issues through Fios and I'm still paying less once everything is added up together (Internet, Cable, home phone, cell phone). If you have the Verizon/Fios bundle option package it's a no-brainer. Hope this helps.

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I am thinkng of going with fios because of the much cheaper rates. I have been a Directv customer for 7 years...have the HD packages and everything. Is it worth my while to change over? I have heard a lot of negative things on this thread about Verizon Fios. Can anyone give me any input? Thanks.

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Fios is better if you think to a parallel between price and quality. Is more traditional, but it depends on what do you want: a more advanced and great system, but at a high price or a cheaper one, with a good quality.
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