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Old 02-23-2007, 01:32 PM   #1
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Question FIOS on coaxial??

I do not understand the part where Verizon uses existing coaxial cable in your house. I thought that they weren't compatable? So there is fo out in the street and it comes to your house and then what, is there a converter that converts FO to a coaxial signal? if so this seems to defeat the purpose of getting away from coaxial and going Fiber Optic. Also heard about using cat5, is this better?
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Old 02-23-2007, 01:58 PM   #2
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The RG6 use is to save money on retrofitting existing houses. It actually does make sense since RG6 is rated for 2GHZ. There is actually alot of room for data to move through there.

In production houses HD-SDI operates over RG6 style cable at a data rate of 1.485Gbps. Cat 5e can do 1.000Gbps but it's typically a switched star topology rather then a bus topology where all of the drops are sharing a collision domain.

Put another way, ATSC fits 18Mbps in a 6MHZ channel. 55 Channels is all that you would need to go 1Gbps.

Fiber is way beyond this, and you need that outside of the house to serve the neighborhood, but inside the house coax has plenty of room to breeth.
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:31 AM   #3
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Default coax vs cat 5

I am starting to build a new house, and fios will be available.
Should I plan on installing coax or phone jacks (all cat 5) for my
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To play it safe run cat 5e and run rg6. you cant go wrong.
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I built a house with both. Cat 5 was a waste of money, $1000. Internet go wireless. coax for tv and internet. telephone-use a multi phone cordless phones like the panasonic KX-TG5633B. You can put the computers and the phones anywhere in the home without phone or Cat 5 jacks. That set up is less expensive and much more convenient. Coax has a large enough bandwidth. Make all the coax runs home runs from where the cable or fios equipment with be located. One run just for the router/modem. Where ever it will be. Don't let the build use splitters in the house. The wiring is not expensive.
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:31 PM   #6
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Is there any way to go fiber all the way?
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I built a house with both. Cat 5 was a waste of money, $1000. Internet go wireless. coax for tv and internet. telephone-use a multi phone cordless phones like the panasonic KX-TG5633B. You can put the computers and the phones anywhere in the home without phone or Cat 5 jacks. That set up is less expensive and much more convenient. Coax has a large enough bandwidth. Make all the coax runs home runs from where the cable or fios equipment with be located. One run just for the router/modem. Where ever it will be. Don't let the build use splitters in the house. The wiring is not expensive.
You paid $1000 dollars for CAT5 cable? Last time I checked newegg sells it for pretty cheap. How much feet did you use???
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Installed in the house by the electrical contractor. If you're building a house, they don't let you do the work yourself. The builder has to make his $$$$. It was about $200 per run. At the time, wireless was very expensive at the time. I wouldn't do it again.
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Dang that sucks.
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FIOS is fiber optic from the CO (Central Office) to your house and terminates at an ONT (Optical Network Terminator). There is only one fiber from the CO to ONT. The ONT converts the fiber light to phone, internet and TV. From the ONT to your phone you can use CAT 5e or CAT 6. From the ONT to your internet connections you can run CAT 5e or CAT 6. From the ONT to your TV you can run RG6 to all location. There is no fiber capabilities to your phone, network or TV.
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Old 03-31-2007, 12:55 PM   #11
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I built a house with both. Cat 5 was a waste of money, $1000. Internet go wireless. coax for tv and internet. telephone-use a multi phone cordless phones like the panasonic KX-TG5633B. You can put the computers and the phones anywhere in the home without phone or Cat 5 jacks. That set up is less expensive and much more convenient. Coax has a large enough bandwidth. Make all the coax runs home runs from where the cable or fios equipment with be located. One run just for the router/modem. Where ever it will be. Don't let the build use splitters in the house. The wiring is not expensive.

Then you don't know anything about Networking, Cat5 is great to connect your Computers, Server, and Home Entertainment Center. Wireless does not have the bandwidth to stream HD Music and Video throughout your house. I ran Cat5 when I moved in 7 years ago and I love it. I set up both Wired and Wireless Networks in my Community, and Wireless Networks have nothing but problems. AppleTV just came out and it has an RJ45 connection, and I'm sure it will work a lot better than the Wireless. I have a Buffalo Multimedia Player and I stream DVD quality Video with no problem.
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That wasn't the issue. Coax will do the same with TV via MOCA. He never said anything about streaming video all over the house. I've have setup a number of networks. I sill like wireless and HD tv is now becoming wireless. Samsung just released it this winter.
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You're right, coax is good for certain applications, but don't think Wireless will give you good consistent video quality over Wired. I have worked with both, and depending on the distance and walls the video quality degrades. The manufacturers feel like you do, but there are too many variables with Wireless.
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Hello all,

New here, 1st post.

I do low voltage (Cat 5e, Cat 6, Fiber, Coax) installs and have a FIOS question.

I have a customer who would like to install 7 HD screens at his store. He is getting FIOS.

The FIOS tech said I must home run all 7 RG6 cables back to the FIOS box where he will connect them to the box via splitters.

The customer wants me only to run 1 cable back to the box (to save money) and wants the splitters installed at the FIOS receivers in the store.

Can this be done w/ FIOS?

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The customer is wrong. You should run a home run from each tv back to one splitter. What he wants to do will not work. Period
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