FIOS on coaxial??

mainetrain

Thanks polodude

Scottnot

That's not totally correct either.

There would be nothing wrong with running one (or more) splitters at the end of a cable, as long as there is sufficient signal strength.

I'm going to take a guess that all 7 TVs are near each other, say 10-15' from a common point.
I'll also guess that they are located about 50' from the FIOS box.
If that's the case it would be much more sensible and less costly to run a single cable from the FIOS box to the TV location;
then use a 8-port splitter with short cable runs to serve the TVs.
The signal loss calculations are the same either way.

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PoloDude

Scott, what it sounded like he wanted to do was daisychain the connections.

Scottnot

Indeed, that would almost always be a big no no.

Especially, if the intent was to put a splitter at each set and then daisychain to the next set . . . 8 times. Yes, that approach would generate unnecessary and excessive signal loss.

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Beringer, 1980, Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Port
Morano, 1980 Vintage Port
Beaulieu Vinyards, 1982 Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon
Stratford, 1983 Merlot
Chateau La France, 1986 St. Emilion
Sutter Home, 1982 Napa Valley Zinfandel

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mainetrain

The FIOS box sits at the back of the store about 75' from the monitors. The flatscreens will be near the front on either side.

If I ran a single RG6 quad to a splitter location near the closest cluster of 5 screens, the coax coming off that splitter going to each receiver would be approx. 10', 10', 10', 25, 25', 35', 35'

I offered this to the Verizon rep but he said no, must be home runs. Is there a difference if the splitter is near the FIOS box or 75' away?
Seems it's either one long "feed" cable or 7 long "splitter" cables

Scottnot

The way you describe it, it doesn't make any difference if the splitter is near the FIOS box or 75' away.
It's all a matter of total loss from the cable and the splitter(s).

Let's say you use cable that has 6 dB of loss per 100'.
Let's say you use a 8-port splitter that has 9 dB of signal loss at each output port.

75' of coax = 4.5 dB of loss.
35' of coax = 2.1 dB of loss.
110' of coax = 6.6 dB of loss.
8-port splitter = 9.0 dB of loss.

FIOS rep says that the correct way its to run through a splitter and then through 110' of coax:
OK, that's 9 dB + 6.6 dB = 15.6 dB total signal loss.

You want to run 75' of coax, then a splitter, then another 35' of coax:
OK, that's 4.5 dB + 9.0 dB + 2.1 dB = 15.6 dB total signal loss.

Ask the FIOS guy to tell you what the difference is.
Expect a blank stare or some gobbledegook about the phase of the moon.

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Beringer, 1980, Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon Port
Morano, 1980 Vintage Port
Beaulieu Vinyards, 1982 Napa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon
Stratford, 1983 Merlot
Chateau La France, 1986 St. Emilion
Sutter Home, 1982 Napa Valley Zinfandel

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Shark2k

I'm willing to bet that the FiOS rep was just a sales person or CSR and that they don't actually deal with the installs. They probably just wanted to give what they thought was the correct answer. The tech that installs will more than likely not have a problem with doing it your way mainetrain.

-Shark2k

mainetrain

update:
Customer has decided to go w/ the home runs. That way if there is a problem, it's on Verizon.

Thanks for your help all.

WestDC

FIOS-Is light-the Optical box is where the light is changed back into electric signals and can fed out with RG6 or Cat6.

Building your own home? All locations should run in conduit-so if you stay in your home for the length of the mortage you can change,add and remove any type of obsolete wiring.

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Bob Walters

Folks,
What happens if you use some of the Gefen "stuff" and split the HDMI at the 4 closest displays & component at the 4 farthest displays????? I believe that both are active out of the Motorola STB!!!???!!! Italian 926............where are you?????

PoloDude

You can split outputs from the STB. That is not a problem.

JPL

Yes, all the outputs on the Motorola STBs are active at the same time.

Quake97

Like others have said, wireless has many drawbacks. In my townhouse, there are TONS of people with wireless routers. It was nearly impossible for me to keep a good signal with all of the interference. I ran Ethernet cables to my TV, where I have my game consoles, bluray player and Apple TV. I also ran one to where my office was at the time. It was a piece of cake for me. If you have the opportunity to do Ethernet runs to your entire house, DO IT.

With that said, when it got cheaper I got an 802.11n router and the interference is no longer an issue because its in the 5Ghz band and not many people have that around here.

Joe

fiosman

to much lost with splitters at each box/also make sure your connections are good(no metal strands showing)errors

Shark2k

fiosman, how about you read the posts before you post as that was already answered and your post is, again, wrong.

-Shark2k