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Old 08-18-2006, 12:46 PM   #1
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Is it not true that TiVo has features that the FIOS DVR does not have. I truly could not live without Season Pass, Wishlist and comming home to see what Tivo thinks I might like to see.
I will tell anyone who listens to me that "If you do not have Tivo, you are completly out of your mind".
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Old 08-25-2006, 10:09 AM   #2
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I understand your love affair with TiVo. For a couple of years I had Replay TV on two TV's. I had the Model 5040 which had Commercial Advance, which has since been outlawed. I would be willing to debate you, if I wanted to take the time, that Replay TV is better than TiVo.

However, along comes HD and a Samsung DLP TV and the Replay TV can't do HD nor can TiVo. I lived with Comcast for a couple of years with much frustration with their Moto DVR. I did connect my Replay TV DVR to the HD DVR and by using an IR Blaster, I could record SB on it. It was cumbersome but I could do it.

I had FIOS TV installed this week. The Moto HD DVR that comes with it is better, but still not as good as Replay TV. It does have two tuners and a 160 GB HD so I am supposed to be able to store up to 30 hours of HD, and I can record while watching and/or recording another show.

I think if you wanted to go to the trouble, you could probably piggy back your TiVo onto the Moto DVR using an IR Blaster. I don't know how or if that would work with the two tuners. I don't think I am going to try the same with my Replay TV. Just too much of a complication.
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:47 AM   #3
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Just to follow up on this a bit, does the FIOS DVR have "season pass" capability or some of the other TIVO capabilites?
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:04 AM   #4
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I understand that it has a season pass. I have ordered FIOS and await intall. I am already having separation pains for TIVO
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:10 AM   #5
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Where/are you a D* customer?

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I understand that it has a season pass. I have ordered FIOS and await intall. I am already having separation pains for TIVO
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Old 08-30-2006, 07:31 AM   #6
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Yes, I have directv and am going to keep it untill fios works out.
It would have cost 400 or so dollors to go hd with Directv
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:23 AM   #7
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For sure, I am with D* now and have HD, which cost about $400 for the reciever. I'm using an OTA receiver for locals which is working out great.

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It would have cost 400 or so dollors to go hd with Directv
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:03 AM   #8
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From what i have learned, I hope, everything about FIOS is better. I got the "are you kidding" when I asked, at the shop that I just bought my new HDTV from, if I should switch. This is a high end shop, not a BB. FIOS has a 30 day trial. It works out to a few bucks less per month. Would you switch if possible?
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I've never had D* (is that how you write it?) although I did get quotes from them and yes it was going to cost $400 for the HD DVR. Therefore, I don't know what Season Pass entails. You can certainly record series of favorite shows with the HD DVR from FIOs. I am into FIOS TV about a week now, and I have been very pleased with the HD DVR features as compared to the Moto box I had with Comcast. I am even getting used to not having a 30 second advance. The fast forward has four speeds and each speed increases exponentially, so it is pretty easy to speed through commericials. Also, when fast forwarding and then hit play, it seems to go back a few seconds, so not it's not necessary to hit replay.
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:35 AM   #10
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Wow I took that "reaction time rewind" for granted thanks for the information.
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Old 09-12-2006, 10:52 AM   #11
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Hey Tampa22. I too am in N. Tampa and have had FIOS for about 3months now. Previously I had Dish & Dtv, both with the HD-DVRs (Dish 822 & I forget the Dtv model#).

Things you'll miss or that will annoy you....but you'll get used to:

- 15 Sec. skip ahead. Yes, you can FF but it's just not quite as smooth. You have to pay attention to the commercials so you know when to hit play again. As someone else mentioned, it will jump back about 3-4 seconds (at 2x FF, 1X about 1-2 sec.) to compensate for you missing the right spot. After a few tries, you'll hit it at the right spot "most" of the time.

- The program guide will switch back and forth between a 4:3 high res menu (with side bars) when on an HD channel and a 16:9 low res (slightly fuzzy) menu when on an SD station. Yes, you read that correct. 4:3 when on HD and 16:9 when on SD. If you watch a show recorded in HD but the channel you had it on prior to watching the DVR was SD and you hit the STOP button the menu will flicker, go black, and do all sorts of stuff before it finally loads the "other" view of the menu. It only takes like three seconds but it is an annoying three seconds. Don't ask me why they do this....but it drives me nuts.

- If you have two rooms (and two DVRs), Verizon will charge you to use the boxes MoCA capabilities to see both boxes DVR contents if you want to watch something in the bedroom that was recorded in the living room. I find that extremely cheap or $$ grubby so I don't have that service. But Dish was like that out of the box with no additional fees so maybe that's why it sticks out to me as being a "sleezy" way to get a few extra bucks out of us.

One other thing (which at this point I am writing off as it just being a new service and hope it changes soon) is they tout and brag about unlimited bandwidth for TV and "we can do this" and "we can do that with no limitations", etc... is that they have no HD VOD channels and only one PPV channel. The PPV I never use anyway but if you have such unlimited bandwidth and the ability to supposedly drive a mack truck through your fiber lines without effect AND you have HBO, SHO, TMC, etc... all in HD, then why the hell do you not have any of those VOD stations in HD?

Those things aside, I really do love the service and am very happy with FIOS and have no intention of changing back. And I am extremely picky when it comes to my home entertainment systems.

Yes, FIOS has a Seasons Pass though they don't call it this. When recording you basically have the options of "Record this Episode", Record All Episodes" then you can edit the shows recording options to choose things like "record every episode old & new", "record only new", "record only at the time you selected" (i.e. - 8-9 pm on Tuesday), "Record whenever the show is on", etc...

The settings that most closely mimic the Seasons Pass is "Record Only New" & "Record Anytime". This way, if the show is pushed back a half hour one night for some reason it will still record it properly. The only issue I have is some of the shows (Weeds on Showtime), shows the episode again on Wed. night and FIOS does not mark it as a repeat but rather as a new show so the DVR ends up recording this episode as well even though it is a repeat of the previous Sundays showing. It only takes about 2 seconds to delete so it's not that big a deal...but it does happen.

The Optical Audio and 5.1 sounds incredible through my Yamaha RX-V750....but most things do.

OK, I think that does it. Sorry if I rambled too much but I was trying to be as thorough as possible in order to give you the best feel for the service through my eyes.

Hope this helps some....enjoy!

If you have any other specific questions, just let me know and I'll be happy to help if I can.

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Old 09-12-2006, 11:01 AM   #12
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Just had to add this real quick... Verizon was supposedly the first company to ink a deal with Scripps Network which owns and produces HGTV & FOOD Network and still has no plans (at least not that the reps know of) to add these channels in HD.

Does not make sense to me but as I'm sure with all of you...I long for more HD stations so I get bothered by that fact very easily.

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TiVo can be set to advance over commericals (i.e. 30 second skip) however it doesn't come setup like this. To enable the feature, use the following buttons on the the remote:

Enter-Play-Enter-3-0-Enter. Then you'll hear two beeps. From then on, you can use the skip button (the one that looks like a a semi circle with an arrow at the one end) to skip 30 seconds. I believe that you must do the above code while watching a recorded show. This features stays enabled until you power the TiVo box off or do a reset. So when you watching a recorded show and a commerical comes on, just grap the remote, hit the skip button 6 times and you're in business.

TiVo has a hole bunch of codes like this that make it easy to use.
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Wow thanks for all the information folks.Spydez you did a great job. I am going to post a new message with brand new challenge/problem.
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