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Old 01-31-2013, 11:42 AM   #1
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A group of us on another chat board ran a diagnostic test of our computer connections. Mine was excellent (STEALTH)in all regards except for the weakness of my computer's responding to a PING, which ideally it should not.

Everyone else on the board got PERFECT scores except one who had the same ping issue as I did. Thing is she was the only one, besides myself, with Verizon FIOS Triple Play, and she suggested perhaps something about the Verizon FIOS connection that was responsible.

We both use anit-virus programs and both have the Windows Firewall up.

Any suggestions to make my (and her) computers NOT respond to a ping?
Do you think our common problem has anything to do with some arcane operation of Verizon FIOS?

Super security has become an issue because some of us have been recently attacked by the FBI Ransom virus, me being almost completely wiped out bt this potent doozie of a killer, that may or may not have attacked via the JAVA loophole. Cost me a week of down time.

p.s. If somebody wants to PING me I expect at least a nice meal and a good bottle of wine.

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Old 02-02-2013, 10:34 AM   #2
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The ping response is from your router, not your computer. You can disable the router setting that responds to a ping and get a full stealth report. It's under the Advance Settings, Remote Administration, Diagnostic Tools. You should also turn off Universal Plug and Play in the Advanced Settings.

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Old 02-03-2013, 05:28 AM   #3
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You can disable the router setting that responds to a ping and get a full stealth report.
Thanks for that advice.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:45 AM   #4
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PLJ2,
That "turn off PnP setting in advanced setting of router" came up on the other board and I went into my router ADVANCED and saw not a single mention of PnP anywhere, in any context.
I will of course try again.

Thank you for taking the time with your explanation...and my friend will also add her thanks.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:04 PM   #5
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That "turn off PnP setting in advanced setting of router" came up on the other board and I went into my router ADVANCED and saw not a single mention of PnP anywhere, in any context.
I will of course try again.

Thank you for taking the time with your explanation...and my friend will also add her thanks.
UPnP is listed as "Universal Plug and Play" in the second column of stuff you can change, just under "Network Objects."
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:06 AM   #6
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Thanks again PLJ. Ping and UPnP vulnerability now gone.
(Under Advanced>>Network objects I had nothing listed, only the ability to ADD something, so I assume UPnP was disabled all along.)

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Thanks again PLJ. Ping and UPnP vulnerability now gone.
(Under Advanced>>Network objects I had nothing listed, only the ability to ADD something, so I assume UPnP was disabled all along.)
YW. The default is enabled for UPnP. The fact that there is nothing in the list indicates that nothing was ever added using UPnP.
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YW. The default is enabled for UPnP. The fact that there is nothing in the list indicates that nothing was ever added using UPnP.
It was unchecked on mine when your advice caused me to look, but that may have been done by whoever had the router previously.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:19 AM   #9
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I'm flummoxed:
At least 10 times I have gone into my MI424WR Rev1 router, checked the first page thoroughly, chosen ADVANCED tab and checked every word in every entry...I have NOTHING that says uPnP nor PnP.
Is is possible that the combination of this router and Windows 7 has done away with the feature and it is always OFF.
Outside testing tells me that I have it turned off...but I never did.
?????????
Any hints?

All I have every done is to turn off ping and turn off wireless. Is it conceivable that one of the turn-offs has removed the uPnP selection?

edit: I guess I can stop puulling out my hair. Here's what the ADVANCED on my router looks like:

And here's the likely explanation:

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With the IPv6 link, that has to be a rev. G or I.
Looks like a recent firmware release removed UPnP along with IGMP Proxy.
Mine is also RevI (I thought is was a one but it's an "eye")

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It is indeed Revision I. I guess I don't understand why UPnP was just removed?
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Maybe because of IPv6. There isn't a need for UPnP anymore once your devices have their own IPs, and there are other methods in IPv6 to address communicating with devices found within the same network via discovery. Now as to why it was removed or at least hidden from view for IPv4 is another question.
As for the specific time it happened:
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I spoke with ActionTec the other day and they confirmed that Verizon did a firmware update to the FIOS MI424WR Router
on or about about 13 December, 2012.
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And apparently did remove the UPnP screen from the Advanced panel.

Well whatever the meaning of that IPv4 and 6 jargon, at least I can stop going rammy trying to disable a feature that no longer exists.
(Thanks guys on the Verizon forum.)

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My advanced screen with firmware 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.14.4 still has the entries. A check says it's up to date. The router says M1424WR on unit itself. Maybe IPV6 has been implemented in your area but not mine, so maybe that's the difference.
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My advanced screen with firmware 4.0.16.1.56.0.10.14.4 still has the entries. A check says it's up to date. The router says M1424WR on unit itself. Maybe IPV6 has been implemented in your area but not mine, so maybe that's the difference.
PLJ,

After M142WR, does it say REV...(anything.) It is on the case itself and thus seems to indicate a physical difference rather than just a driver or a firmware change.
It is only REV H, and I that have had the UPnP removed, earlier versions A,B....G seemingly do not.
(I've had this router only a couple months so I apparently got new-new.)

Don't hold me to it but I think the "old" one is Rev F with a silver band and a single antenna. The Rev I has a red band and TWO antennae.
Here's the old F:


Here's the new Rev I which even uses a different processor:

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Mine is the older model.
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