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Old 01-13-2013, 08:04 AM   #1
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Default Wow .. very cool new home media center

Wonder when this will be available.

http://newscenter.verizon.com/reside...ia-server-ces/
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:11 AM   #2
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Wonder when this will be available.

http://newscenter.verizon.com/reside...ia-server-ces/
It seems to be in line with the hopper and genie.
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Interesting, but 1 TB of storage is 2008, not 2013. I buy Seagate 2TB drives right now for $110.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:23 AM   #4
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It's coming out in the next couple months, from what Verizon said at the CES. I agree that the 1TB of storage is a bit small these days, but considering you can add an external drive, it's not that big of a stumbling block.

I'm seriously interested in the device as well - all depends on the price point, which I haven't seen yet.
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Im sorry, but 1 TB is large enough. These things are meant to record shows and movies so they can be watched at a later time, not for people to create their own massive library as if its a collection. My 1TB is 1/2 full with 70 hours of HD video? Thats plenty of space for most people, and it would be completely irresponsible for Verizon to supply anything larger than that, increasing their costs. If people need the extra storage, let'm buy the externals, I did
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Interesting whole house DVR, but they call it a server. To me a server would allow storage of media files other than those recorded via the provider service. Home movies, ripped DVDs, photos, music, etc. They don't indicate any of these server abilities will be available. Maybe I just missed it.
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Interesting whole house DVR, but they call it a server. To me a server would allow storage of media files other than those recorded via the provider service. Home movies, ripped DVDs, photos, music, etc. They don't indicate any of these server abilities will be available. Maybe I just missed it.
It's "serving" the whole house with TV from one box. The term "server" could mean many things. It's just that we're used to what you said.
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It's coming out in the next couple months, from what Verizon said at the CES. I agree that the 1TB of storage is a bit small these days, but considering you can add an external drive, it's not that big of a stumbling block.

I'm seriously interested in the device as well - all depends on the price point, which I haven't seen yet.
Thing is, I don't think 5 tuners are enough so I'd prefer multiple DVR's rather than server/client. I had DirecTV "Genie" with 5 tuners for our main TV and we never had a conflict + I had 3 other DVR's with 2 tuners each. If you use the clients, like the DirecTV Genie, they might "steal" a tuner from the "server" when watching live programming which ain't good. If you can mix the server with DVR's that would be excellent as I did on DirecTV.

That's the only thing already killing me with FIos is only 2 tuners on my main TV. I've lost 6 tuners coming to Fios and a LOT of conflicts especially on Sunday when football runs over & Thursday with a lot of shows.
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Im sorry, but 1 TB is large enough.
Sorry, but i did not elect you to determine what my needs are. You have no idea what they are.

The difference in price between a 1TB WD drive, and a 2TB WD, is $30 retail. In the quantities Motorola is buying them, even less. Unless they're using RAID Edition drives, which seems unlikely.

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If people need the extra storage, let'm buy the externals, I did
So did I. And we know that this new server retains that ability?
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Thing is, I don't think 5 tuners are enough so I'd prefer multiple DVR's rather than server/client. I had DirecTV "Genie" with 5 tuners for our main TV and we never had a conflict + I had 3 other DVR's with 2 tuners each. If you use the clients, like the DirecTV Genie, they might "steal" a tuner from the "server" when watching live programming which ain't good. If you can mix the server with DVR's that would be excellent as I did on DirecTV.

That's the only thing already killing me with FIos is only 2 tuners on my main TV. I've lost 6 tuners coming to Fios and a LOT of conflicts especially on Sunday when football runs over & Thursday with a lot of shows.
I don't know a ton of the specifics, beyond what I've read, but I believe that you can have 2 of these servers, if you want. Giving you 10 tuners. I don't think they would interact with each other, though.

Also, I think you're still free to have other stand-alone DVRs in the house. I don't think that goes away with this set up. You just wouldn't be able to interface between those DVRs and the media server.

Also, if you're having issues because of a lack of tuners, why not get a second DVR, and set up the home media DVR functionality? It wouldn't be quite the same (the s/w isn't smart enough to do conflict resolution between the devices, e.g.) but you can feed recordings from one DVR to the other. Just a thought.
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Sorry, but i did not elect you to determine what my needs are. You have no idea what they are.

The difference in price between a 1TB WD drive, and a 2TB WD, is $30 retail. In the quantities Motorola is buying them, even less. Unless they're using RAID Edition drives, which seems unlikely.



So did I. And we know that this new server retains that ability?
Sorry, Italian, I have to agree with tkurkowski on this. While it's true that Verizon has to tailor their product to meet the needs of consumers, and avoid over-kill (to avoid making a product too expensive to consumers), it's really hard to make the case that upping this media server to say 2TB would up the price of these boxes. Storage is dirt cheap, and considering how much Verizon pays for these things (the boxes are pricey) it just makes no sense to me to have anything less than a 2TB drive installed.

Also, it helps to future-proof the box. 1TB may seem ok today... but it won't be ok in the future. Heck, I would argue that 1TB is NOT ok by today's standards. And it's not like Verizon hasn't pushed back before. The reason the 7232 defies Motorola's normal naming standard (the last 2 digits in the model usually indicates the size of the drive inside - hence 6216 has a 160GB drive in it) by having a 500GB drive in it is specifically because Verizon requested that it come with the larger drive. It was supposed to only have 320GB (to match the model number).
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.... and you think I was talking directly about you... because...
hmm

I was stating my opinion, just as you did.

Do you have any idea how much cost is involved with every FiOS installation? This isnt a simple drop a coax from a pole and connect like the cable companies. When Verizon is at such a competitive disadvantage due to cost, its no mystery why we're getting just 1TB. This company deleted a clock display and rear AC outlets on their HD boxes to shave a few bucks.

And again, if you are one of the MINORITY, that needs more than 1 TB, add an external. So really whats the big deal. My wife and I record a LOT of shows and movies, and our internal 500Gb is completely empty, 1TB external is half full.
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PS JPL, who told you that myth about the model #'s? Please explain to me why the standard DVR's were 2708's then.

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I don't know a ton of the specifics, beyond what I've read, but I believe that you can have 2 of these servers, if you want. Giving you 10 tuners. I don't think they would interact with each other, though.

Also, I think you're still free to have other stand-alone DVRs in the house. I don't think that goes away with this set up. You just wouldn't be able to interface between those DVRs and the media server.

Also, if you're having issues because of a lack of tuners, why not get a second DVR, and set up the home media DVR functionality? It wouldn't be quite the same (the s/w isn't smart enough to do conflict resolution between the devices, e.g.) but you can feed recordings from one DVR to the other. Just a thought.
I have 3 DVR's. 6 tuners vs 9 I used to have. With DirecTV I could watch ANY DVR's recording from the home-media server so I am hoping it would be the same with Fios. I hate having to keep a spreadsheet in order to "distribute" the recording across the 3 DVRs with only 2 tuners each.
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PS JPL, who told you that myth about the model #'s? Please explain to me why the standard DVR's were 2708's then.
Because they had 80 GB harddrives in them. Meaning that the SD DVR followed the same naming standard. Motorola has followed this nomenclature for some time now - not just with Verizon's boxes. The only box that Verizon uses/used, by Motorola, that defies that standard, to my knowledge, is the 7232. Of course that just begs the question - why didn't Motorola just change the model number to match the size of the HD inside? Dunno the answer to that one.
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