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Old 12-13-2010, 06:05 AM   #1
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I'm asking because I am scheduled to move to Comcast on Wednesday and now I am having second thoughts.

Why the switch? Comcast has more HD channels and especially when you take away the .TV channels which now Fios has extended that contract.

I am just afraid I am going to regret going back to the evil empire. (At least I used to think that!)

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Old 12-13-2010, 06:38 AM   #2
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It really comes down, in my opinion, to what's more in line with what you want. I know from your posts on dslreports, that you're concerned because Verizon hasn't added any HD in a while, while it looks like Comcast is adding channels hand over fist. Well, Comcast has some catching up to do.

One thing to keep in mind, though - what are the future plans for each? I think this is an important question. Comcast is expanding its HD lineup by getting rid of analogs. But once that's done... where do they go from there? They're going to hit an upper limit, just like Verizon did... and they'll hit it pretty quickly. But what are their plans for getting past that limit?

With Verizon, the answer is easy: IP. Once they go IP they'll really have virtually unlimited bandwidth for channels. But what about Comcast? They'll have a few options that they can take:

1) MPEG4 - Migrate all linear channels to mpeg-4. How likely is this? Put it this way - given how many mpeg-2 STBs they have out there... it'll be a very long time before you see this happen.

2) 1GHz QAM - this is possible too, but I think the reason most cable companies shied away from this route is because the cost is much higher than you would think. First, most equipment they have out there - from splitters to amplifiers to STBs - aren't set to handle frequencies in that range. Upgrading equipment in households alone would be a daunting task for a company that size. Second, signal drop-off rates are directly proportional to the frequency of the signal - the higher the frequency, the faster the drop off you get per linear foot. Which means that they would need additional boosting stations along the way to boost the signal strength.

3) SDV - I think it is probably the most likely alternative for Comcast. But again, it's not cheap. The question is - how future-looking is Comcast? In my opinion, I don't think the make a move unless they're forced to. For example, when all other providers were making serious architectural changes to expand bandwidth, Comcast decided to tackle their bandwidth crunch by further compressing their signal.

Again, though, you have to look at what Comcast offers vs. Verizon. If they have a channel that you MUST have, and must have NOW, well, that makes your decision for you. But if you can wait a few months for more HD, with the understanding that once Verizon makes this move to IP there really will be no upper limit on what they can offer in terms of number of channels... then I would hold on.

Personally, I really like FiOS. I think it's a great service... I really think Verizon does a better job of addressing the desires/needs of the customers better than Comcast did/does. But that's just my opinion.
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:27 PM   #3
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JPL,

Thanks for your comments, I shared them with my family and we canceled our install and will stay with Fios.

Merry Christmas

Pat
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:13 PM   #4
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Dont go with comcrap, I just left and im not looking back to the horrors. They are a distant last place in customer service and will screw you every chance they get. If you do go with them MAKE 100% SURE YOU GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING. I appologize to those Verizon customers I had to make sure this guy heard me hopefully he will and deside to cancel his poor decision. I was a 15 year member of the evil empire and its such a breath of fresh air to be with Verizon. My bill actually has my name on it and not a bad word like it did with comcrap. Please please take my warning seriously get everything in writting they will start to screw you about 3 months into your promo deal with price increases and a sudden loss of 6 month promo offers. Anything they guarantee for a year or more will never be honored thats a fact they will change the price and call it a fee or something. Also be warned about unusual charges for things you didnt order like service contracts and warranties for your equipment. To be fair Verizon tried to get me with internet online backup free for 3 months then it sneaks into your bill I never ordered it and it just appeared one day. Its a service they feel you will want so they sign you up automatically as a service nice isnt it?
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Old 12-14-2010, 06:09 AM   #5
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JPL,

Thanks for your comments, I shared them with my family and we canceled our install and will stay with Fios.

Merry Christmas

Pat
As I posted on that Comcast forum, I'm surprised that I was that persuasive (and, frankly, honored). I just gave you my personal opinion on the matter. Of course the day you cancel your install, Comcast announces the addition of what, some 100 new HD channels in this market . Like I posted above, though, I have to ask - what's next for Comcast? They've held off on making any real architectural changes until now. What's to drive them to make any going forward?

Anyway, I hope you won't come to regret your decision. And I guess nothing's permanent - if Verizon doesn't get off the stick and start rolling out IP pronto, you can always reschedule the install.

As an aside, it was Verizon's initial plans to eventually move to IP that convinced me to make the leap from DirecTV to FiOS. I was concerned about a potential cap on how many channels a QAM service could offer. When I read that Verizon was planning on migrating to IP at some point, it pretty much convinced me to make the leap.

Merry Christmas to you and your family, too!
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As I posted on that Comcast forum, I'm surprised that I was that persuasive (and, frankly, honored). I just gave you my personal opinion on the matter. Of course the day you cancel your install, Comcast announces the addition of what, some 100 new HD channels in this market .

Well I looked at that list of channels that Comcast added and quite frankly I wasn't too excited. Premium movie channels do not interest me as they seem to retread the same movies all the time and I can not sit glued to the channel long enough to watch them. I'd just like to get CBS Sports, the Comcast Network, Headline News Turner Movies and Lifetime in HD and I'd be happy at that.

I'll give it until March and if nothing happens, I'll reschedule in time for opening day baseball.

By the way, does Comcast show any of the On Demand Sports package games in HD?

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Well I looked at that list of channels that Comcast added and quite frankly I wasn't too excited. Premium movie channels do not interest me as they seem to retread the same movies all the time and I can not sit glued to the channel long enough to watch them. I'd just like to get CBS Sports, the Comcast Network, Headline News Turner Movies and Lifetime in HD and I'd be happy at that.

I'll give it until March and if nothing happens, I'll reschedule in time for opening day baseball.

By the way, does Comcast show any of the On Demand Sports package games in HD?

Regards,

Pat
Not sure about the On demand sports package games. I'll have to ask a coworker who's a Comcast customer. I'm guessing that their on demand line-up varies from market to market, just like their live channels do, so I would think it would help to talk with someone from this area who's a customer.

And I hear you about the list of channels. There are very few remaining HD channels that I want - Cartoon Network, Cooking Channel, FearNet, Fox Soccer... and that's about it... for now.
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