Samsung OLED-TV can compete against LCD in 2013-2014

Lee Stewart · 10-29-2009, 12:22 PM

Samsung OLED-TV can compete against LCD in 2013-2014

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At FPD International in Japan the vice president Kim from Samsung spoke about the future of OLED-Television. Kim thinks that OLED panels in the size from 40 to 50 inch can compete against LCD technology in 4 to 5 years.

http://www.oled-display.net/samsung-...d-in-2013-2014

MikeRox · 10-29-2009, 07:09 PM

Excellent. Makes this next year a good time for a new TV then... then get an OLED after that in 2015 or so.

Lee Stewart · 10-30-2009, 11:35 AM

LG roadmap predicts 'OLED panels will cost less than LCD panels in 2016'

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/10/30...an-lcd-panels/

**PFC5** · 10-30-2009, 01:56 PM

Well at least they are starting to give numbers about when they expect OLED, which they have said is cheaper to make, to actually cost less. But I won't hold my breath on this as LCD prices will continue to drop over that 7 year period as well.

Lee Stewart · 10-30-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Well at least they are starting to give numbers about when they expect OLED, which they have said is cheaper to make, to actually cost less. But I won't hold my breath on this as LCD prices will continue to drop over that 7 year period as well.

When OLED hits the marketplace it should command some kind of a premium because it will have a better PQ than is possible from an LCD. But I am talking 20 to 25% - not 300 to 500%

**PFC5** · 10-30-2009, 06:06 PM

I agree, but currently plasma has "arguably" (not really arguable IMO though) a better picture yet it usually sells for much less than LCD in the same size so eventually I can see there not being much of a premium at all.

Lee Stewart · 10-30-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I agree, but currently plasma has "arguably" (not really arguable IMO though) a better picture yet it usually sells for much less than LCD in the same size so eventually I can see there not being much of a premium at all.

As I understand OLED and after talking to friends who have seen OLED at trade shows, it beats PDP by a wide margin. Even the Kuro's.

**PFC5** · 10-30-2009, 10:02 PM

I have heard that also, but that is besides the point I was making about plasmas having better PQ than LCD but being cheaper than LCD despite that. They do not have to charge more once they recover the R&D costs unless they gouge on prices because they have shown they didn't do it with plasma despite having better PQ than LCD.

Lee Stewart · 10-31-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I have heard that also, but that is besides the point I was making about plasmas having better PQ than LCD but being cheaper than LCD despite that. They do not have to charge more once they recover the R&D costs unless they gouge on prices because they have shown they didn't do it with plasma despite having better PQ than LCD.

IMO, they are trying to keep PDP alive and that is how they are accomplishing that. It isn't necessarily a rule of thumb if I understand your post correctly.

**PFC5** · 10-31-2009, 09:01 PM

What do you mean they are trying to keep plasma alive? IT is a better tech and Panasonic is mostly a plasma mfg and is just getting into LCD now. You really think their major (by a wide %) source of display revenue is losing a lot of money to keep it alive? I disagree.

Lee Stewart · 10-31-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

What do you mean they are trying to keep plasma alive? IT is a better tech and Panasonic is mostly a plasma mfg and is just getting into LCD now. You really think their major (by a wide %) source of display revenue is losing a lot of money to keep it alive? I disagree.

PDPs market share continues to fall almost every quarter. It has fallen out of favor with consumers. Having the better PQ has not helped PDP now has it?

Shark2k · 11-01-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

As I understand OLED and after talking to friends who have seen OLED at trade shows, it beats PDP by a wide margin. Even the Kuro's.

I know that is not what PFC was talking about, but that is good to hear that it does really look as good as articles written about it have said. Now if they could just get some of the problems solved (mainly the lifespan of I believe the blue OLED) that would be great. I think some scientist have made some progress, but it needs to be something that will not be expensive to accomplish (as I don't really know what they did and how that relates expense-wise).

-Shark2k

10-29-2009, 07:09 PM	#2
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10-30-2009, 06:06 PM	#6
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,349	I agree, but currently plasma has "arguably" (not really arguable IMO though) a better picture yet it usually sells for much less than LCD in the same size so eventually I can see there not being much of a premium at all. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

10-30-2009, 10:02 PM	#8
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,349	I have heard that also, but that is besides the point I was making about plasmas having better PQ than LCD but being cheaper than LCD despite that. They do not have to charge more once they recover the R&D costs unless they gouge on prices because they have shown they didn't do it with plasma despite having better PQ than LCD. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

10-31-2009, 09:01 PM	#10
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,349	What do you mean they are trying to keep plasma alive? IT is a better tech and Panasonic is mostly a plasma mfg and is just getting into LCD now. You really think their major (by a wide %) source of display revenue is losing a lot of money to keep it alive? I disagree. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

10-30-2009, 11:35 AM	#3
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