Why are there only a handful of HDTV's 3D capable?

Lee Stewart · 08-28-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

Let's see, Mitsubishi has been in development of a 3D system for 3 1/2 years as well as some other players including Toshiba.

No - Mits is involved in 3D display - not encodes. And their use so far has been very limited at best - just like Samsung.

Mitsubishi Begins 3-D TV Promo

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Irvine, Calif. - Mitsubishi Digital Electronics America (MDEA) launched Monday a promotion of its 3-D-ready Home Theater series TVs with Internet-based video game publication IGN.com.

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A 3-D standard format is still being developed between multiple manufacturers in the CE industry for Blu-ray and DVD prepackaged media. A 3-D standard may emerge that is not compatible with Mitsubishi LaserVue or Home Theater DLPs, the company warned.

http://www.twice.com/article/328345-...D_TV_Promo.php

Toshiba has shown 3D demos using their equipment? Link?

Techlord · 08-28-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Most HD is 1080i. Only ESPN, ABC and Fox use 720P

Even though there are many good 1080i broadcastings, CBS just simply looks steller compared to others that are just good. The CW couldn't touch CBS's quality even though they both do 1080i. There's a lot of improvement to be done by broadcasters, HDTV being still fresh and in it's infancy.

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IMAX to the home?

You are talking about a format that has 12,000 x 8,000 resolution! And it has an aspect ratio of 1.44. Definitely not a fit for the home market.

There's no way to scale down the resolution and the aspect ratio? We have been watching movies on VHS, DVD while the masters have much high resolution. They had to be scale down to fit onto a DVD.

Loves2Watch · 08-28-2009, 04:51 PM

This statement "A 3-D standard may emerge that is not compatible with Mitsubishi LaserVue or Home Theater DLPs, the company warned. " proved my point...

Lee Stewart · 08-28-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Techlord

Even though there are many good 1080i broadcastings, CBS just simply looks steller compared to others that are just good. The CW couldn't touch CBS's quality even though they both do 1080i. There's a lot of improvement to be done by broadcasters, HDTV being still fresh and in it's infancy.

CBS has been broadcasting in HD for over 10 years.

The only improvement broadcasters can make (and we are talking about over-the-air - antenna) is to use the full bandwidth - all 19 mbps for the HD broadcast - as opposed to dropping the bandwidth so they can cram another channel in.

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There's no way to scale down the resolution and the aspect ratio? We have been watching movies on VHS, DVD while the masters have much high resolution. They had to be scale down to fit onto a DVD.

Sure - they do it now with Blu-ray - 1920x1080 with a 1.78 AR.

But that's not IMAX. That's just IMAX cobbled up to fit on a BD.

THIS is IMAX:

Lee Stewart · 08-28-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Loves2Watch

This statement "A 3-D standard may emerge that is not compatible with Mitsubishi LaserVue or Home Theater DLPs, the company warned. " proved my point...

What? That Mits jumped the gun? That they are selling a "3D compatible HDTV" when there is no set standard for 3D yet?

They don't have a horse in the race when it comes to setting a 3D standard.

Techlord · 08-28-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

CBS has been broadcasting in HD for over 10 years.

The only improvement broadcasters can make (and we are talking about over-the-air - antenna) is to use the full bandwidth - all 19 mbps for the HD broadcast - as opposed to dropping the bandwidth so they can cram another channel in.

Sure - they do it now with Blu-ray - 1920x1080 with a 1.78 AR.

But that's not IMAX. That's just IMAX cobbled up to fit on a BD.

THIS is IMAX:

CBS has been broadcasting for 10 years, wow! I'm surprised that IMAX is not widescreen, whats with the square screens?

19 mbps for the HD broadcast, how much are they using now?

Lee Stewart · 08-28-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Techlord

CBS has been broadcasting for 10 years, wow!

yep - started in 1999 in NYC from the Empire State Building

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I'm surprised that IMAX is not widescreen, whats with the square screens?

IMAX is bigger than widescreen as you can see from the picture. That 70mm piece of film has an aspect ratio of 2.20. 35 mm anamorphic (widescreen) is 2.39

IMAX is more than 2X bigger than 70mm. AR wise. IMAX stands for Image MAXium

You have never been to an IMAX theater?

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19 mbps for the HD broadcast, how much are they using now?

Here - read this:

Broadcasters' HD Squeeze Play

Techlord · 08-28-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

You have never been to an IMAX theater?

No I have not.

Lee Stewart · 08-29-2009, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Techlord

No I have not.

Well you definitely should.

What is the closest city to you? I will give you a link to the nearest IMAX theater. This is something you should really see.

My IMAX theater is one of the small ones - 300 seats . . .

With a 5 story screen!

Techlord · 08-29-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Well you definitely should.

What is the closest city to you? I will give you a link to the nearest IMAX theater. This is something you should really see.

My IMAX theater is one of the small ones - 300 seats . . .

With a 5 story screen!

Irvine, 20 minutes from Disneyland. They tore down the IMAX here in Orange County and converted it into a regular theater.

Lee Stewart · 08-29-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Techlord

Irvine, 20 minutes from Disneyland. They tore down the IMAX here in Orange County and converted it into a regular theater.

Edwards Irvine Spectrum 21 & IMAX
65 Fortune Drive
Phone: (949) 450-4900
Suite: 65

Newly renovated with stadium seating, downstairs restrooms and updated surround sound, this is the perfect venue for any movie going experience. Edwards 21 Cinemas shows the latest IMAX movies on an eight-story screen

Call the theater and find out when they are showing a real IMAX movie - not Harry Potter and see if you can go to a 2D movie first (they also have IMAX 3D there):

Something like this one:

http://mods.org/IMAX/wildocean.htm

Put it at the top of your list of Things To Do. I promise you - it will be an experience like no other.

BeeF · 08-30-2009, 11:38 PM

IMAX is something you HAVE to see. I'm rather lucky having grown up real close to the Philips IMAX Theater at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science. Seen some pretty cool stuff there.

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