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Why buy a 4k TV if it will be years before TV stations broadcast in 4k?

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Old 11-07-2016, 01:14 AM   #1
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Help me out here, if I don't ever watch 4k Blu Rays and only watch Television programming, is there any purpose to upgrading to a 4k resolution TV? Asking if the resolution upgrade alone is worth it for any reason, I'm aware that there are new features such as OLED but only asking if the upgrade in resolution would be worth it when there is almost no 4k content currently broadcast by TV networks.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:38 AM   #2
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Do you subscribe to:

Netflix
Amazon Prime
VUDU

All three offer 4K content.

If you are considering buying a new TV that is larger than 55" the chances are you will have to buy a 4K model as HD models are being retired in favor of 4K models.
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Old 11-07-2016, 12:21 PM   #3
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I would say that there are two concerns about resolution. One is the amount of detail in the source, but also the amount of pixel size in the display. I don't know about others, but I can tell a fairly big difference in the picture quality of a 720p display and a 1080p display even with a 720p source. The 4k displays I've seen have looked quite better to me with 1080i/p sources as well. 4k displays have much smaller pixels.
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Old 11-11-2016, 03:22 PM   #4
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I just replaced my Panny Plasma 52" with an OLED 55b6 and I can see a noticeable improvement in approx 70% - 80% of the HD channels that I DO get. I have FiOS and dont know if that has any bearing on the final outcome. RBinck brought an interesting concept that the amount of detail in the source has a big thing to do with the final output. I was even surprised in the upscaling of my wife's favorite show, "Andy of Mayberry" the other night. The edges around all the people was crisp as well the every other detail was well defined.

So, I guess it all depends on whether or not you are a TV watcher or not or just use the TV as a diversion until something else comes along. As a TV watcher, I notice the difference.
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Old 12-05-2016, 12:57 AM   #5
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I think you are correct. Only had 1 TV, a 2012 60" Panasonic Plasma. I believe it was a middle of the line model. Decided with my fiancé to get another and opted for the flat 65" LG OLED B6. We have Comcast for TV, Netflix, Amazon and Hulu. I don't see regular TV through Comcast as any better. The 4k content on Netflix looks great. Comcast to me seems very compressed, even on the 1080P Panasonic, Netflix looked much better. I honestly think watching native 720P broadcast TV on a TV closer to it's native resolution is actually better than on a UHD TV, too much upscaling? Thoughts?
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Help me out here, if I don't ever watch 4k Blu Rays and only watch Television programming, is there any purpose to upgrading to a 4k resolution TV? Asking if the resolution upgrade alone is worth it for any reason, I'm aware that there are new features such as OLED but only asking if the upgrade in resolution would be worth it when there is almost no 4k content currently broadcast by TV networks.
The reason I don't have 4K sets is we are cable watcher's with No broadcasting arriving in 4K. I wish not to subscribe to Net flex and the like for more $$$, which only some select content is in 4K.

4K might eventually become standard, when they have decided on which standard UHDTV format will be used.

Yup, I believe it will be years or when I am dead, regular TV network broadcasting will be in 4K. 3D was a big sell for TV manufactures.....if you rent movies that are in 3D. How many DVD movies are in 3D or regular broadcast on Cable? 4K is another HYPE from TV manufactures to sell TV's. When there are few movies, from Netflex and the like, broadcasting 4K on limited basis and cable companies being light years away broadcasting in UHD, I don't need to spend money to upgrade our current 1080p TV's. Right????
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If you just watch cable & broadcast, then no you won't find much. There is quite a bit of compelling 4k content out there but it's all on streaming services.

Netlfix is probably the best source for 4k. All their original programming is in 4k. Even some non-original stuff like Breaking Bad. Most of Amazon's originals are in 4k too & a few Vudu movies (but they're not cheap).
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The reason I don't have 4K sets is we are cable watcher's with No broadcasting arriving in 4K. I wish not to subscribe to Net flex and the like for more $$$, which only some select content is in 4K.

4K might eventually become standard, when they have decided on which standard UHDTV format will be used.

Yup, I believe it will be years or when I am dead, regular TV network broadcasting will be in 4K. 3D was a big sell for TV manufactures.....if you rent movies that are in 3D. How many DVD movies are in 3D or regular broadcast on Cable? 4K is another HYPE from TV manufactures to sell TV's. When there are few movies, from Netflex and the like, broadcasting 4K on limited basis and cable companies being light years away broadcasting in UHD, I don't need to spend money to upgrade our current 1080p TV's. Right????
If you don't plan on getting Netflix or any streaming service or buying a 4k Blue ray player and the discs. Then no, no point of getting a 4k Tv.
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Then again, I have read professional reviews that UHD TV's are for 60 inch and larger screen sizes, for full effect of 4K streaming. Right??
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4K or 4K Ultra ?
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When I first bought a 1080p set I wasn't worried about when something was going to be broadcast, I was looking forward to watching Blu-Rays on it. The same goes with a 4K TV, I'm more than happy just popping in a 4K disk.
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I think LG makes OLED televisions and the higher end Samsungs are SUHD? So here's my thought: the upscaling on these top-of-the-line televisions is supposed to be very good; in addition to the odd 4K program I could watch on Netflix or Amazon Prime, don't the 1080i television shows and 1080p blu-ray movies look significantly more detailed on the 4K televisions (the ones with "superior" upscaling)?
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Have we seen this? https://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/
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I'm happy with mine. Then again I bought it for HDR . Also my 2009 panny pdp bit the dust. Was very worried about coming from a pdp to LCD . The blacks on the new set are awesome though. Btw, that link is 3 yrs old.
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