Who Wins The Super Bowl?

[mshulman]

Originally Posted by borromini

It's going to be a tight game.

I'm not sure how tight it will be. With good weather, the Pats can throw deep. We haven't seen much of that lately with the cold and wind they've had.

[MattRCT]

The Patriots playing in a dome during the biggest game of the year!!!

[borromini]

The stadium does have a partial retracting roof.

[bboncorr]

with NY playing their starters v.s. new england back during week 17 was a good thing and a bad one. see the team that ny faced will not be the same team at all. during that game brady seemed to force throws that brady doesn't normaly force and the play calling was not what N.E. usually does in certain situations. i talked to many long time pats fans and most of the people i talk football with in person know their stuff otherwise i would not bother starting up the conversation. all seemed to agree that in the last few weeks of the season the play calling was not normal.

they seemed to go into a screw it mode as if going 16-0 wasn't as important as winning the s.b., which is understandable. just look at how many times brady threw at Moss during those last few weeks and esp. that last game. now look at how many times brady has forced the ball to moss during the playoffs. moss averaged more passes thrown at him per quarter then he has gotten thrown at him this whole post season.

also consider how often the pats subed during that N.Y. game. N.E. will not sub out their players nearly as much this time around.

to me it was a good decision for N.Y. to play their starters but anyone useing the last matchup as a comparison to say N.Y. can definetly beat N.E. needs to rewatch that last game.

here are a couple reasons why,

N.Y. does not have a nickly good enough to cover welker.
maroney is over his injury.
nobody can cover moss so most likely the safty will need to double him. that means welker over the middle and watson up the middle.
who is gonna cover faulk? sure they can but that takes away any chance of a blitz.


also consider this now Bill B. has seen manning JR. in person and when he was going full steam. now bill has 2 full weeks to game plan for him. i'm not sure of the exact record bill. b. has when his team is coming off a bye week but the number is staggering in his favor.

it was smart that coughlin played his starters but that might also end up being the reason this game turns into a blowout.

[bboncorr]

Originally Posted by MattRCT

The Patriots playing in a dome during the biggest game of the year!!!

atleast the field didn't effect them this season. they installed an artificial surface early in the season. talk about a smart move considering the style they played and how well they played it.

how can anyone expect this offense to faulter in the biggest game with,

brady behind center, maroney playing on an artificial surface in good weather, moss welker, watson, faulk, and stallworth catching balls, and that dam good offensive line.

oh yeah and lets not forget bill B. has 2 weeks to prepare for manning and recently had a front row seat to see how manning jr. plays.

[tcarcio]

This will be the best Superbowl because when the Pats win it will be something we probably will never see again.19-0 Pats win 38-24....

[drbrosco]

There must have been alot of Packer fans on here cause this sports message board has been on fire the last few weeks & it has been almost completely silent since sunday nite. I have never seen it so quiet i don't think.

And what exactly is the NFL's excuse for this 2 week layof. I have always thought this is the worst 2 weeks of the year for sports. One great thing is we won't have to listen to a million stories about Brett Favre for the 2 weeks. The guy has had a great run & somehow took an average team to the NFC championship(wich playing a lousy NFC schedule does wonders for you) But I hope he shows a little class this year & comes out with a week or two & tells the team & his fans wether he's playing or not next year. I personally think he will play again & why not he is better than half the QB's in the NFL.


Good Luck to the Giants & Patriots fans!

[Emil]

In reference to Brett Favre

I personally think he will play again & why not he is better than half the QB's in the NFL.

He certainly is better than the 21 QB's we've had here in Chicago since he's been playing !

[speedythecat]

Does anyone besides me think the Pats are just a little overrated?

What is the big deal with going undefeated if you don't play anyone? Dolphins twice, Bills twice, Jets twice, those 6 games were freebies. They only had about 5 tough games scheduled all year and were home for 3 of those. The only truly tough game they had scheduled was at Indy. You know, the one where the Colts had Harrison and a couple of other key players out, and a few questionable calls in the Pats faver (as per usual) and they escaped there by 4 points.

The sorry Ravens should have taken them down, but the officials would have no part of that.

In the playoffs they beat a Jaguars team that was spent from the Steelers pummeling them the week before, and a joke of a chargers team with their 3 best players out or playing injured.

All of this glory and well deserved for a team who almost ruined integrity of the league this year. What other team would get away with that? Talk about OJ all over again.....

Anyway, just a reality check for the Pats fans that like to pound their chest like they were Patriots fans their whole life when they know they weren't. I know 6 people that have lived in New england their entire lives and they said they weren't even aware NFL shop sold Patriots gear until about 5 years ago. There wasn't a lot of demand for it I guess.

This will be the second time all year the Patriots have a real opponent that is not a home game and key people aren't injured. The first time was the Giants team that didn't even have a reason to win that game. This time, they may be able to find those extra 3 or 4 points. I hope they do.

I'm no Giants fan, but atleast they got there honest.

PS... Greatest team of all time? Give me a break..... Not even the 10th best IMO after watching football for 30+ years.

PSS.... If anyone can honestly tell me they were a Patriots fan back when they sucked (essentially the entire history of the world before 5-7 years ago) then I applaud you and mean no offence by my post. Hopefully for you they won't get what's coming to them.

[bboncorr]

Originally Posted by speedythecat

Does anyone besides me think the Pats are just a little overrated?

What is the big deal with going undefeated if you don't play anyone? Dolphins twice, Bills twice, Jets twice, those 6 games were freebies. They only had about 5 tough games scheduled all year and were home for 3 of those. The only truly tough game they had scheduled was at Indy. You know, the one where the Colts had Harrison and a couple of other key players out, and a few questionable calls in the Pats faver (as per usual) and they escaped there by 4 points.

The sorry Ravens should have taken them down, but the officials would have no part of that.

In the playoffs they beat a Jaguars team that was spent from the Steelers pummeling them the week before, and a joke of a chargers team with their 3 best players out or playing injured.

All of this glory and well deserved for a team who almost ruined integrity of the league this year. What other team would get away with that? Talk about OJ all over again.....

Anyway, just a reality check for the Pats fans that like to pound their chest like they were Patriots fans their whole life when they know they weren't. I know 6 people that have lived in New england their entire lives and they said they weren't even aware NFL shop sold Patriots gear until about 5 years ago. There wasn't a lot of demand for it I guess.

This will be the second time all year the Patriots have a real opponent that is not a home game and key people aren't injured. The first time was the Giants team that didn't even have a reason to win that game. This time, they may be able to find those extra 3 or 4 points. I hope they do.

I'm no Giants fan, but atleast they got there honest.

PS... Greatest team of all time? Give me a break..... Not even the 10th best IMO after watching football for 30+ years.

PSS.... If anyone can honestly tell me they were a Patriots fan back when they sucked (essentially the entire history of the world before 5-7 years ago) then I applaud you and mean no offence by my post. Hopefully for you they won't get what's coming to them.

you are a total moron if you really believe what you just posted.

lets look at the sch. again,

beat s.d. in week 2 by a huge margin. then beat them again in the playoffs. last time i checked a playoff team is never considered a nobody.

oh then there was indy. N.E. got screwed on many calls and even the league admitted those calls were wrong just like the league admitted some key calls during the colts game in the playoffs last season were bad calls. not long after the game each time ellis hobbs recieved letters from the head of officiating stating on both occasions those calls were wrongly called against him. again you call indy a the only challange but last time i checked indy lost in indy to jacksonville. so please don't even start with sorry officiating lines.

which brings me to the next game jacksonville. they beat indy in indy so how are they not a challange? the pats handled indy easily. nope sorry but your logic is already falling apart.

dallas in dallas and beat them by 21pts. last i check dallas was one of the better teams in the league.

they thrashed pitt and pitt was supposed to be one of the better teams at that point.

they beat NY in NY. last time i checked NY beat both dallas and GB to get into the SB so how is NY not a worthy team.


The beat every team worth beating. they beat every team that beat the so called best teams. by your own logic if it was that easy then why didn't INDY do it. if it was that easy then why did indy lose 3 games and their playoff game at home?

Just come out and admitt it you are either the usual hater or someone who just started watching football yesterday. even the greatest teams of all time lost games during the season.

oh yeah and your review of the AFC east is a complete pile of shat. you have obviously never ever watched a AFC east game in your life. there is one known thing about in division games and that's records don't matter. these teams know eachother far to well for records to matter. even when the pat were on other 12 or 17 game winning streaks the afc east teams allways gave them comp. and when the pats were horriable during the early 90's we were giving the better afc east teams comp.

what division do you watch? isn't that the rule for all division games? unless your a 12 year old kid or somone who just started watching football yesterday then i wouldn't expect you to know this but my guess is your older and simply just hating.

then you gotta mock the honesty factor and simply not mention how mansleazy is being outcasted by the other coaches. now if bill really did somthing that other coaches don't do or agree with then why is mansleazy being outcasted and the coaches named bill the coach of the year, tell me why is that?

30 years of watching football my azz, more like 30 seconds of watching the games on espn highlights.

tell me something who was the best team in the NFL this season? obviously the pat are not according to you so who do you think it was and us 99.99999999999999999% other football fans are simply wrong.

[robox4]

Originally Posted by speedythecat

Does anyone besides me think the Pats are just a little overrated?

What is the big deal with going undefeated if you don't play anyone? Dolphins twice, Bills twice, Jets twice, those 6 games were freebies. They only had about 5 tough games scheduled all year and were home for 3 of those. The only truly tough game they had scheduled was at Indy. You know, the one where the Colts had Harrison and a couple of other key players out, and a few questionable calls in the Pats faver (as per usual) and they escaped there by 4 points.

The sorry Ravens should have taken them down, but the officials would have no part of that.

In the playoffs they beat a Jaguars team that was spent from the Steelers pummeling them the week before, and a joke of a chargers team with their 3 best players out or playing injured.

All of this glory and well deserved for a team who almost ruined integrity of the league this year. What other team would get away with that? Talk about OJ all over again.....

Anyway, just a reality check for the Pats fans that like to pound their chest like they were Patriots fans their whole life when they know they weren't. I know 6 people that have lived in New england their entire lives and they said they weren't even aware NFL shop sold Patriots gear until about 5 years ago. There wasn't a lot of demand for it I guess.

This will be the second time all year the Patriots have a real opponent that is not a home game and key people aren't injured. The first time was the Giants team that didn't even have a reason to win that game. This time, they may be able to find those extra 3 or 4 points. I hope they do.

I'm no Giants fan, but atleast they got there honest.

PS... Greatest team of all time? Give me a break..... Not even the 10th best IMO after watching football for 30+ years.

PSS.... If anyone can honestly tell me they were a Patriots fan back when they sucked (essentially the entire history of the world before 5-7 years ago) then I applaud you and mean no offence by my post. Hopefully for you they won't get what's coming to them.

Come on man, that's a joke right? They had one of the toughest schedules in the league. Yes, they had Buffalo, NY Jets, and Miami twice. They also had Dallas, Washington, NY Giants, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, and San Diego. That's 6 playoff teams. Did anyone else have that many?

I personally think the '85 Bears were better, mainly because once the playoffs started and the games became important for them again, the Bears were more dominant than any team I have ever seen. That's it though, the Bears of '85 are the only team I think was better and the Pats are right there.

[drbrosco]

Originally Posted by speedythecat

PS... Greatest team of all time? Give me a break..... Not even the 10th best IMO after watching football for 30+ years.

I would love to see your list of 10 teams better than this years Patriots.

The Pats if they win will be considered one of the best teams ever by any football fan, more than likely one of the top 2-3 teams ever. so there is no way there are 10 teams better than the patriots.

I'd love to see after this season if ESPN would do another one of those computer tournaments of the best NFL teams ever. The 78' Steelers always come out on top beating the 49ers, but if you add the 07' Patriots to the mix they would either be in the finals or at worst semifinals. They are just for fun, but interesting.

I don't even like the Patriots but to say you can name 10 teams is better sounds crazy to me. But then again one of the things that makes sports fun is EVERBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINIONS & nobody will ever agree on everything. I'm sure there is some old timer somewhere saying no way the patriots could beat the 1955 Browns...lol

[mshulman]

Originally Posted by speedythecat

Does anyone besides me think the Pats are just a little overrated?

18-0

What is the big deal with going undefeated if you don't play anyone? Dolphins twice, Bills twice, Jets twice, those 6 games were freebies. They only had about 5 tough games scheduled all year and were home for 3 of those. The only truly tough game they had scheduled was at Indy. You know, the one where the Colts had Harrison and a couple of other key players out, and a few questionable calls in the Pats faver (as per usual) and they escaped there by 4 points.

see robox4's post - he covered this plenty. And there's no reason to make excuses. Patriot's won. That's all that matters.

The sorry Ravens should have taken them down, but the officials would have no part of that.

This had nothing to do with the ref's - it had to do with the Ravens for starters and then a couple of mistakes on the Pat's part that happened to work in their favor. Raven's beat themselves. But credit has to go to the Pat's as well, because they kept pushing.

In the playoffs they beat a Jaguars team that was spent from the Steelers pummeling them the week before, and a joke of a chargers team with their 3 best players out or playing injured.

Isn't this how teams play all year long? Just more excuses that are worthless.

All of this glory and well deserved for a team who almost ruined integrity of the league this year. What other team would get away with that? Talk about OJ all over again.....

Ah.. now the rest of your comments make sense.

If this was ANY other team besides the Patriots and maybe the Colts, noone would even be bringing this up anymore. Get over it - it's had no effect on their wins.

This will be the second time all year the Patriots have a real opponent that is not a home game and key people aren't injured. The first time was the Giants team that didn't even have a reason to win that game. This time, they may be able to find those extra 3 or 4 points. I hope they do.

You are so full of crap, its not even funny. If the Giants had no reason to win, why did their starters play the whole game? The Giants absolutely wanted to win that game and stop the Pat's from going 16-0. They couldn't. Anything could happen in the Superbowl, but if the Pat's play their best, I think the Giants will find themselves on the losing end again.

I'm no Giants fan, but atleast they got there honest.

Again, please tell us how taping 5 minutes of the first game of the season has any affect on the rest of it?

PS... Greatest team of all time? Give me a break..... Not even the 10th best IMO after watching football for 30+ years.

I don't know if I'd say greatest team of all time - I haven't seen football since inception, but let's hear some teams that have had the same success? I think they are without a doubt the Best Team in this new era of football where its much more competitive than it onces was.

PSS.... If anyone can honestly tell me they were a Patriots fan back when they sucked (essentially the entire history of the world before 5-7 years ago) then I applaud you and mean no offence by my post. Hopefully for you they won't get what's coming to them.

Lived in NE all my life. Didn't always pay attention to football or other sports for that matter, but I've always been a fan. Probably the last 10 years is when I started watching more frequently.

[macmarkus]

Picking the Giants, just because. I'm not big into NFL and admittedly don't follow closely or know much about the league.

I do follow the CFL in the "Great White North", and I usually pull for the underdog, unless MY team is favoured. I remember being in NY City in 1987 when the Giants won the Superbowl, and it's a really fond memory, so that is a factor as well I guess. Sentimental pick you could say. Besides who couldn't love NYC ?

My Thought's Not Yours...to each their own

peace

macmarkus

[borromini]

Originally Posted by speedythecat

Does anyone besides me think the Pats are just a little overrated?...

Ah a troll. Or worst, someone who doesn't know football.