NASCAR- Making this up as they go?

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Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

Remember that NASCAR makes 36 "stops" in the U.S. Fontana will probably lose one of its dates next year.

They could drop all teh races and I wouldn't be at all heartbroken about it LOL. It would mean Nascar TV I mean Speed vision could go back to airing all motorsports not just the Nascar crap that seems to be on over an dover almost every day.

[F91]

So, who get's the "new" race?

Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

Remember that NASCAR makes 36 "stops" in the U.S. Fontana will probably lose one of its dates next year.

[18 is # 1]

Originally Posted by F91

So, who get's the "new" race?

I would vote for another road course or Darlington. But they would once again go with a bigger venue oval like Indy. They still need the Pac NW, so its a shame that Seattle doesn't want a track, maybe Onalaska.

[F91]

Darlington lost it's Labor day race to California!!!! BTW, The Seattle track?? It was only accessible by bridge or ferry and 20 miles from a Freeway. Great choice ISC! Here's an eye opener-

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/sp...tml?ref=sports

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Originally Posted by F91

Darlington lost it's Labor day race to California!!!! BTW, The Seattle track?? It was only accessible by bridge or ferry and 20 miles from a Freeway. Great choice ISC! Here's an eye opener-

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/sp...tml?ref=sports

That was a great article and shows that even traditional markes are now having a waining interest in the sport.

[18 is # 1]

Originally Posted by F91

Darlington lost it's Labor day race to California!!!! BTW, The Seattle track?? It was only accessible by bridge or ferry and 20 miles from a Freeway. Great choice ISC!

Thats good...Texas has 4 freeways close by and it still takes 5 hours to transit each way.

Viewers will come and go. I suppose many fans that have stopped watching, tuned in to a couple of seasons to see what the popularity is all about. Not finding a team/driver to be involved with, they fall away.
The California market is confused. Those folks didn't know cars could go faster than 40mph until NASCAR got there. Which brings up a good point. How do you explain a new sport to the novice fan?
When the Stars moved to Dallas, they brought their TV announcers with them from Minn. (not all of us attended the Chi. Blackhawks farm club that was here for years). They educated the general public about the game. How well are the L.A. fans learning? Do they broadcast in spanish? Would they understand better if the drivers were armed?

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Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

Thats good...Texas has 4 freeways close by and it still takes 5 hours to transit each way.

Viewers will come and go. I suppose many fans that have stopped watching, tuned in to a couple of seasons to see what the popularity is all about. Not finding a team/driver to be involved with, they fall away.
The California market is confused. Those folks didn't know cars could go faster than 40mph until NASCAR got there. Which brings up a good point. How do you explain a new sport to the novice fan?
When the Stars moved to Dallas, they brought their TV announcers with them from Minn. (not all of us attended the Chi. Blackhawks farm club that was here for years). They educated the general public about the game. How well are the L.A. fans learning? Do they broadcast in spanish? Would they understand better if the drivers were armed?

Well it seems that Cali has sure adapted quite well to the 2 wheel variety of racingand it is only broadcast in english look at the MotoGP events at Laguna every year combined with the AMA races and when the World Superbike events were there. They always sold out and are packed to capacity. Nascar is just not what the fans are looking for anymore and it is starting to show in the ratings and fan turnout at the tracks.

[F91]

Infineon sells out it's one race and the population base up there is much less than in SoCal. Must be because it's a road race?

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Originally Posted by F91

Infineon sells out it's one race and the population base up there is much less than in SoCal. Must be because it's a road race?

Probably as a roadcourse race is far more exciting to watch no matter what is driving around the track.

[SMOKE]

We need more short track race tracks like Bristol. Enough of the 1 1/2 D shaped ovals. Not exactly cookie cutter tracks...but pretty darn close.

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Originally Posted by SMOKE

We need more short track race tracks like Bristol. Enough of the 1 1/2 D shaped ovals. Not exactly cookie cutter tracks...but pretty darn close.

Nope more excitement would be generated with roadcourses it would also bring in a new fan base one that likes/liked the transam racing and even some open wheel fans may be inclined to watch if the series ran on more roadcourses to actually show driver ability rather than just driving in circles running into the back of the guy in front of you to get him out of your way.

[18 is # 1]

We need a flat figure 8 track. Now that would generate some interest!

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Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

We need a flat figure 8 track. Now that would generate some interest!

LOL ya but the drivers would complain about it ...

[rbinck]

Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

Remember that NASCAR makes 36 "stops" in the U.S. Fontana will probably lose one of its dates next year.

There's not a stop at Fontana. The only RR is Watkins Glenn. See: http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2007/data/schedule.html

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Originally Posted by rbinck

There's not a stop at Fontana. The only RR is Watkins Glenn. See: http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2007/data/schedule.html

Well I guess they should look into Barber mtorsports park and Laguna and Miller Motorsports park to add some excitement to the series and some real tracks that have both left and right turns in them....
I am almost posative it would bring in fans from other forms of racing if they did this even if it was just a passing interest to see what the races would shape up to be on the road courses if it attracts 10 fans and they keep 3 it would still be an increase.