NASCAR- Making this up as they go?

[DSNY FN]

Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

I used to watch open wheel when they were one. I switched to NASCAR because the organization has more integrity and they make the racing as fan friendly as possible.

P.S. More drivers switch from open wheel to NASCAR than vice-versa...

Because most Nascar drivers couldn't excell in open wheel racing. Where as most open wheel racers have no real problems in Nascrash case in point JP Montoya.

[18 is # 1]

Originally Posted by DSNY FN

Because most Nascar drivers couldn't excell in open wheel racing. Where as most open wheel racers have no real problems in Nascrash case in point JP Montoya.

Just the opposite, I don't know of any sucessful NASCAR drivers that went to Indy or F1. And few open wheel CART or F1 have had real sucess in Nascar, case in point Robby Gordon, Mario Andretti, Al Unser, A J Foyt, etc..
To quote Days of Thunder "...these cars are twice as heavy with a tire half as wide"

[DSNY FN]

Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

Just the opposite, I don't know of any sucessful NASCAR drivers that went to Indy or F1. And few open wheel CART or F1 have had real sucess in Nascar, case in point Robby Gordon, Mario Andretti, Al Unser, A J Foyt, etc..
To quote Days of Thunder "...these cars are twice as heavy with a tire half as wide"

Days of Thunder ugh I hated that movie I think it was Tom that killed that movie for me LOL. As for open wheelers look at Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart and Juan Montoya he allready has a win this season. Robby Gordon was only a mediocre open wheeler and Andretti well he was decent in cart but was well short of a star in F1.

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I'm still waiting for that list of sucessful NASCAR drivers that left for CART/F1.....

Buddy Baker didn't know that Monte Carlo wasn't a Chevy...
David Pearson thought Grand Prix was a Pontiac....

[Lee Stewart]

If Chrysler starts making the new Challanger and Chevy makes the new Camaro - what are the chances of seeing American Trans Am racing once again?

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Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

I'm still waiting for that list of sucessful NASCAR drivers that left for CART/F1.....

Buddy Baker didn't know that Monte Carlo wasn't a Chevy...
David Pearson thought Grand Prix was a Pontiac....

That was my point there was not one Nascar driver that was ever successful in F1 or cart for that fact other than TS and he drove IRL if memory serves. The Nascar drivers know left turns and couldn;t handle the multitude of right hand corners and the technology they would be faced with or the G forces thier bodies would sustain.

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

If Chrysler starts making the new Challanger and Chevy makes the new Camaro - what are the chances of seeing American Trans Am racing once again?

That would be great to see let them have at it on the road courses around the US and Canada I bet Ron Fellows would be in there like a dirty shirt. Chevy would even supply him with all the Camaros he needs. The new Camaro is being built in Oshawa Ontario.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by DSNY FN

That would be great to see let them have at it on the road courses around the US and Canada I bet Ron Fellows would be in there like a dirty shirt. Chevy would even supply him with all the Camaros he needs. The new Camaro is being built in Oshawa Ontario.

Best racing I ever saw in 1969 was the Trans Am racing series. Was lucky to see three races that year.

We know from experiience that the R/T and Z28 brands will be used again. Also Ford has a "BOSS" mustang ready to go.

[DSNY FN]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

Best racing I ever saw in 1969 was the Trans Am racing series. Was lucky to see three races that year.

We know from experiience that the R/T and Z28 brands will be used again. Also Ford has a "BOSS" mustang ready to go.

I would love to see this series rise again and you could bet your life on it that Penske would be putting in a team for sure.

[F91]

Ratings were down last year too. Check Jayski's, they keep track of this stuff pretty well.

Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

Ratings were artificially boosted last year by the Olympics (i.e. races following immediately after).

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Originally Posted by F91

Ratings were down last year too. Check Jayski's, they keep track of this stuff pretty well.

I would venture to guess they will continue to fall with the not so fan friendly prices etc at many of the races. Plus with viewership falling companies aren't going to want to spend teh big advertising dollars with the series either and thus force more increases in ticket prices to help offset the lost revenue from other areas.

[18 is # 1]

Originally Posted by DSNY FN

I would venture to guess they will continue to fall with the not so fan friendly prices etc at many of the races. Plus with viewership falling companies aren't going to want to spend teh big advertising dollars with the series either and thus force more increases in ticket prices to help offset the lost revenue from other areas.

Silly person. They have no trouble selling out venues, because if the venue does not perform it will lose its date. Notice 200,000 at Texas last weekend?

I agree thet road course racing is more entertaining. We used to have the "Dallas Grand Prix" with the Trans Am series and the coolest thing was to walk around and see the race from different positions. BUT
You generate fan loyalty by promoting the Driver/Team and getting the public to identify with him. Nascar has done this better than any motor sport EVER. When I watch the NFL, I don't have a vested interest in the game unless the Cowboys are playing. NASCAR keeps its fan base by getting people involved with their driver. Nobody cares about open wheeled drivres unless they look like Danika!

[F91]

Fontana has kept BOTH of it's dates (so far) and hasn't sold out either in a couple of years now....

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Originally Posted by 5 is # 1

Silly person. They have no trouble selling out venues, because if the venue does not perform it will lose its date. Notice 200,000 at Texas last weekend?

I agree thet road course racing is more entertaining. We used to have the "Dallas Grand Prix" with the Trans Am series and the coolest thing was to walk around and see the race from different positions. BUT
You generate fan loyalty by promoting the Driver/Team and getting the public to identify with him. Nascar has done this better than any motor sport EVER. When I watch the NFL, I don't have a vested interest in the game unless the Cowboys are playing. NASCAR keeps its fan base by getting people involved with their driver. Nobody cares about open wheeled drivres unless they look like Danika!

200,000 people is a decent turn out but Laguna had more than that for the MOTO GP race last year and it only makes 1 stop in the US although Boy George is trying to get a GP for Indy LOL should never happen. F1 in Montreal always has a HUGE turnout I knwo what you mean about a vested interest though as with all sports I can't stand watching them following them. I only watch hockey and have a vested interest in my favourite theam (the HABS) but will watch any hockey if it is on but I can't say I would turn on a baseball game or football game or basketball game just because it is on. I never watch them at all actually.

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Remember that NASCAR makes 36 "stops" in the U.S. Fontana will probably lose one of its dates next year.