Getting DOLBY D/DOLBY D EX with the PS3 on the Onkyo SR606

nyboy11

Hey guys i have my PS3 hooked up to my new Onkyo SR606 with HDMI and then HDMI out to the TV so i get Both video and Audio with HDMI, in the PS3's settings i did the little audio settings setup i told the PS3 im using HDMI for sound and then it checked automaticlly what formats it can accept and that was it. however when i watch a movie or play any game that is supposed to be DOLBY D EX or atleast DOLBY D, it doesnt give me that to choose,

meaning if i play a game thats supposed to have DOLBY D EX(i know this because my ONkyo S790 i had Dolby d ex in thee particular games and movies) the only things that i can choose is the Theatrical dimensional or whatever its called, TV LOGIC, ALL CHANNEL and Mono if i rememebr correct, why doesnt it let me choose DOLBY D EX? on the remote im pressing the MOVIE/TV button to scroll between listening modes, i tried the game button aswell and the music button but it doesnt let me get DOLBY D EX, am i doing something wrong?

Loves2Watch

Doesn't the remote have a Dolby or direct button?

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nyboy11

no it doesnt

Loves2Watch

Then look on the front of the receiver.

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nyboy11

there are 3 buttons on the reciever aswell on the remote saying MOVIE/MUSIC/GAME, when i press movie for example it gives me the modes for movie watching i guess but NONE are DOLBY or DTS, on my XBOX 360 and cable TV which are hooked up with optical for sound, they have DOLBY D, just the ps3 which is hooked up with HDMI both for video and sound doesnt let me choose any DOLBY lisrtening modes in either of the listening modes MOVIE/MUSIC/GAME. all it lets me choose is Theatrical Dimensional/ ALL CHANNEL STE/MONO and like 2 more not needed listening modes, why doesnt it let me choose DOLBY? do i have to connect the ps3 to the reciever with Optical in order to get DOLBY D/EX? HDMI cant get DOLBY D EX?

Loves2Watch

Have you tried the Digital Input button on the front of the receiver? Note:From Owners Manual ■ Audio Signals
Digital audio signals received by the HDMI IN jacks are output by the speakers and headphones connected to the AV
receiver. Normally, they are not output by the HDMI OUT, unless the Audio TV Out setting is set to On (see page 81).
To listen to audio received by the HDMI IN jacks through your TV’s speakers, set the Audio TV Out
setting to On (see page 81), and set your DVD player’s HDMI audio output setting to PCM.

Also read page 43 HDMI Input Setup.

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nyboy11

Thanks for the info, so i pressed Digital Input button on the reciever and it shows HDMI:AUTO(it should be set to auto right?) and i just relized that on the reciever there is small text saying in the following order: PCM MULTICH HDMI and it also says Audyssey in the right end aswell. so i am recieving PCM from the PS3 as i should? so basically i have the following available listening modes: "Theater dimensional", "Full Mono", "All Channel STE" and "MULTICH" when FULL MONO or Theater dimensional is selected , near the HDMI text on the reciever itself that i mentioned above it there is 1 more added text "DSP" "PCM MULTICH HDMI DSP What is DSP?

and basically what would be the best listening mode to set it to? Multich? All Channel Stereo? Full Mono i guess wont be a good choice since its mono right? and Im not sure about THeater Dimensional

Thanks

Loves2Watch

Hope this helps. Make sure to read those pages I pointed out - 57 then 49 and 50.

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BIslander

nyboy11,

I don 't have a PS3 or an SR606 and I am not familiar with the specific settings. But, in general....

You want the PS3 to decode lossless sound tracks (TrueHD and dts-MA) found on Blu-ray and output them as multichannel PCM to your receiver. That's the only way to get lossless audio with a PS3. But, you also want the PS3 to bitstream legacy DD/DTS from DVDs and games to the receiver for decoding. Given the large numbers of people in your same situation, I suspect that's a fairly standard configuration, although I suppose it's possible that you would have change the audio setup from PCM to bitstream depending on what source you are playing.

DSP means digital signal processing and should be turned off, for the most part. Choices like jazz club, stadium, and all channel stereo are just ways to manipulate the original recording. The only DSP modes that offer genuine improvement, in my opinion, are PLII (Dolby ProLogicII), DTS Neo:6, and PLIIx. PLII and DTS Neo:6 take stereo sources and create credible 5.1 or 6.1 multichannel environments with an anchored center channel for dialog and surround effects. PLIIx takes 5.1 sources and matrixes additional rear channels from the surround information. DD-EX can also be applied to 5.1 sources to manufacture a mono rear channel. These aren't as good as discrete multichannel recordings. But, they aren't bad, either. For example, if a concert DVD offers both a DD or DTS 5.1 track and stereo PCM, I usually prefer the audio quality of the stereo PCM version. I then apply PLII (music) to the stereo signal to create surround effects.

I wish I could provide guidance on the actual settings. But, perhaps, a discussion of the basic concepts will help you find them yourself.

Chris Gerhard

I don't have the Onkyo SR606, I am using the Yamaha RX-V663. I just have the PS3 decode and output PCM. The receiver always shows PCM, regardless of audio codec used. Before I got a receiver with HDMI audio processing, I just output audio from the PS3 bitstream over the optical connection. It appears I am missing something here, I have no idea why I wouldn't want to do things that way. I don't have to change anything on receiver or PS3 when playing the different audio formats. Just select the preferred audio from the disc menu.

I don't recall playing any Dolby Digital EX or Dolby Digital Plus discs, doesn't the PS3 decode these? I am not sure I have any, but I must at least have a couple of each.

Chris

BIslander

That may be what others are doing as well - let the PS3 decode all formats, including DD and DTS, and output PCM to the receiver. I must admit I am a bit unclear on what problem the OP is having. From his initial post:

DD-EX is Dolby's way of matrixing 5.1 tracks to add a single rear channel for 6.1 or 7.1 systems. There's a flag in data that tells the processor to apply DD-EX processing after the track is decoded. According to posts I've seen in the AVS Forum, the PS3 does not do the DD-EX processing for its PCM output, meaning you have to do it in the receiver. You can (A) send the track as bitstream and let the receiver read the flag and apply the DD-EX processing on its own. Or (B) send it as PCM to the receiver and turn on DD-EX or PLIIx processing yourself in the receiver. But, of course, DD-EX is only an issue for 6.1 or 7.1 systems. It's not a factor if you have the usual five speakers and a sub.

Loves2Watch

I believe the OP wants to see the lights on the front of the receiver glow with Dolby, DTS, etc. At this point, after all of the settings and pages I gave him to look at, if he hasn't figured it out, I am at a loss.

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Stew4HD

I let my PS3 decode all the soundtracks and my Denon says Multi-channel 7.1.. which is correct and sounds great!

nyboy11

I got it guys , yes my ps3 is outputing 7.1 PCM to the reciever via HDMI. thanks for the info. but 1 thing i dont understand, you said "You do not want multi channel mode seleceted because you don't have it connected that way" So my ONLY other LISTENING MODE option is the Theather Dimensional mode on the PS3 , there are 2 other modes (ALL CHANNEL STEREO and FULL MONO but i dont want these .. ) so what should i set the listening mode to, Theather Dimensional or MULTICHANNEL?

and on the XBOX360 i have it connected via optical to the reciever because my 360 doesnt have HDMI. so which Listening Mode will give the best sound on the 360 ? Cuz on the 360's Source, i have all kinds of listening modes available, orchestra.. Dolby D EX(which is what i have selected right now), TV LOGIC, NEO.. what should i select?

Loves2Watch

Dolby PLII (pro logixc II) or just Dolby Digital using the digital button on the receiver.

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