Yamaha htr 5890 Bose Speakers

Steeda35 · 05-10-2008, 03:31 PM

I have hooked up my Bose cube speakers to my yamaha and i am running a martin logan dynamo 10 inch sub. Could some one please help me and tell me what settings i should use for my speakers.

Codes20 · 05-10-2008, 03:41 PM

First of all, those cube speakers are designed to be used with that Godforsaken Acoustimass module. The crossovers will not work well with anything else and those cube speakers won't go very low in frequency. You are seriously lacking midrange using those cube speakers, especially matched to a true subwoofer.

Realistically, you should get new speakers. If that is not an option, even with decent crossover settings on the woofer (80Hz) and the receiver (speakers at 200Hz, since that's about the lowest they go) you will be lacking mids.

Steeda35 · 05-10-2008, 03:52 PM

Thank you. So by not having any midrange am i missing alot. I love the Martin logan sub it sounds great. My crossover is set at 80 the THX settings. Should I change to 200 for the bose speakers. Later i am thinking of purchasing the Mythos One Towers.

Steeda35 · 05-10-2008, 03:58 PM

Will towers give my midrange. and could i connect those to the B speaker output on my reciver. I am running the Bose VCS 10 center channel and 5 cube speakers for a 6.1 setup. I am tempted to run best buy and buy some midrange speakers. Will I notice a dramatic improvement.

Codes20 · 05-10-2008, 05:37 PM

The thing with Bose is that they are very overpriced with very little performance. It's like buying a Ferrari with a 4-cylinder engine, thinking it had an 8-cylinder, but you never noticed because of the car's light weight or you drive gingerly.

The cubes are meant to mesh with the Acoustimass module, which is essentially 1 or 2 mid range woofers masquerading as a subwoofer. When you swap the Acoustimass module for a true subwoofer that goes lower in frequency, you are losing a lot of midrange, but gaining much more low. Either way, it's a bad scenario, since you are missing crucial frequencies.

I'd opt to sell the Bose system (very high resale value, surprisingly) and get at least a pair of floor or bookshelf speakers and a matching center channel to build around if funds are tight.

Steeda35 · 05-10-2008, 06:07 PM

Should i set my sub at 200 or 40 on the crossover

iserum · 05-10-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeda35

Thank you. So by not having any midrange am i missing alot. I love the Martin logan sub it sounds great. My crossover is set at 80 the THX settings. Should I change to 200 for the bose speakers. Later i am thinking of purchasing the Mythos One Towers.

You are missing a lot in mid range, a A/B comparison will be best test for u if you really want to know what u are missing, the problem with Bose is that cube speakers are good only for high frequency and bass module produces the mid range and low end frequency does not exist. with your set up with 80hz cross over you need bookshelf speakers or mythos one from Def. Tech. as u mentioned. For Bose 200 is good cross over but it will make you sub producing mid range and will be working all the time.

Steeda35 · 05-10-2008, 07:56 PM

On my Martin Logan what should i set the low pass to. Right now i have under 30. My cross over is set at 80.

Steeda35 · 05-10-2008, 08:03 PM

So If I set to 200 on crossover will i loose all my base on my sub. My audio must be horrible. This whole time I thought it was great. And then today i just realized i am missing mids.

iserum · 05-10-2008, 09:27 PM

if you are controlling low pass in AVR (200) than on Sub move it to Max.

the downside of small speakers is missing of midrange so you movies will be dialogues and then explosions, nothing in between.
bookshelves are best in this regard, gives you good midrange and good for music listening.

Steeda35 · 05-10-2008, 10:42 PM

Can i bi wire my sub to produce my mids

Loves2Watch · 05-11-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Steeda35

Can i bi wire my sub to produce my mids

No. You really need to replace those Bose cubes with something else, anything else would probably sound better.

Steeda35 · 05-14-2008, 06:52 PM

On my dynamo i am running at half gain and low pass filter at 45. The reciver is set at 100. Is this Ok.

Steeda35 · 05-26-2008, 09:17 AM

Ok as an update i just got a new revciver denon 2808 and I got Mirage v2 fs floorstanding speakers up front. Sound good but I wasn't totally blown yet

Steeda35 · 05-27-2008, 05:22 PM

I can not find a good setting for these speakers. Still sounds the same to me

05-10-2008, 03:31 PM	#1
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	Yamaha htr 5890 Bose Speakers I have hooked up my Bose cube speakers to my yamaha and i am running a martin logan dynamo 10 inch sub. Could some one please help me and tell me what settings i should use for my speakers.

05-10-2008, 09:27 PM	#10
iserum High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,957	if you are controlling low pass in AVR (200) than on Sub move it to Max. the downside of small speakers is missing of midrange so you movies will be dialogues and then explosions, nothing in between. bookshelves are best in this regard, gives you good midrange and good for music listening. __________________ Panasonic 50PX80U/Pioneer BDP-51FD /Toshiba HD A1/Tivo HD SAMSUNG LNT-4661F/ Pioneer BDP-51FD/Dell XPS, Nvidia 9500 GT SONY BRAVIA 40V2500/40 GB PS3, WII, Intel Core 2 Duo with Nvidia 6800 Yamaha RXV1700 Def. Tech. Mythos III, V & Gems, Super Cube III Harmony Remote One Power Conditioner: Belkin PF40

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05-10-2008, 03:41 PM	#2
Codes20 In need of speakers Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CA Age: 24 Posts: 1,402	First of all, those cube speakers are designed to be used with that Godforsaken Acoustimass module. The crossovers will not work well with anything else and those cube speakers won't go very low in frequency. You are seriously lacking midrange using those cube speakers, especially matched to a true subwoofer. Realistically, you should get new speakers. If that is not an option, even with decent crossover settings on the woofer (80Hz) and the receiver (speakers at 200Hz, since that's about the lowest they go) you will be lacking mids.

05-10-2008, 03:52 PM	#3
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	Thank you. So by not having any midrange am i missing alot. I love the Martin logan sub it sounds great. My crossover is set at 80 the THX settings. Should I change to 200 for the bose speakers. Later i am thinking of purchasing the Mythos One Towers.

05-10-2008, 03:58 PM	#4
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	Will towers give my midrange. and could i connect those to the B speaker output on my reciver. I am running the Bose VCS 10 center channel and 5 cube speakers for a 6.1 setup. I am tempted to run best buy and buy some midrange speakers. Will I notice a dramatic improvement.

05-10-2008, 05:37 PM	#5
Codes20 In need of speakers Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CA Age: 24 Posts: 1,402	The thing with Bose is that they are very overpriced with very little performance. It's like buying a Ferrari with a 4-cylinder engine, thinking it had an 8-cylinder, but you never noticed because of the car's light weight or you drive gingerly. The cubes are meant to mesh with the Acoustimass module, which is essentially 1 or 2 mid range woofers masquerading as a subwoofer. When you swap the Acoustimass module for a true subwoofer that goes lower in frequency, you are losing a lot of midrange, but gaining much more low. Either way, it's a bad scenario, since you are missing crucial frequencies. I'd opt to sell the Bose system (very high resale value, surprisingly) and get at least a pair of floor or bookshelf speakers and a matching center channel to build around if funds are tight.

05-10-2008, 06:07 PM	#6
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	Should i set my sub at 200 or 40 on the crossover

05-10-2008, 07:56 PM	#8
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	On my Martin Logan what should i set the low pass to. Right now i have under 30. My cross over is set at 80.

05-10-2008, 08:03 PM	#9
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	So If I set to 200 on crossover will i loose all my base on my sub. My audio must be horrible. This whole time I thought it was great. And then today i just realized i am missing mids.

05-10-2008, 10:42 PM	#11
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	Can i bi wire my sub to produce my mids

05-14-2008, 06:52 PM	#13
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	On my dynamo i am running at half gain and low pass filter at 45. The reciver is set at 100. Is this Ok.

05-26-2008, 09:17 AM	#14
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	Ok as an update i just got a new revciver denon 2808 and I got Mirage v2 fs floorstanding speakers up front. Sound good but I wasn't totally blown yet

05-27-2008, 05:22 PM	#15
Steeda35 Steeda Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 19	I can not find a good setting for these speakers. Still sounds the same to me