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Old 12-18-2011, 10:36 AM   #1
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Default Bose vs. Bose (really struggling with this one!)

Trying to decide between the CineMate GS Series II (2.1; $800) and the CineMate 1 SR (soundbar; $1500).

I understand all the concerns and disapprovals for Bose systems. However, I've spent enough time listening to all the options and considering my willingness to spend the money and the unwillingness to deal with wires, I've decided on the bose systems. It is down to those two. The soundbar is a relatively new system... and so the reviews are difficult to get.. even more so a comparision with the 2.1 GS system. If anyone has any definitive ideas.... and not just conjectures (!) on how comparable the systems are, I'd very, very much appreciate it!

Also, I've been to the bose store and spend considerable time comparing the two systems. The soundbar does sound better (especially the bass). However, a bose store is a controlled environment and the soundbar is almost twice the cost. I don't mind the cost as long as that difference in sound is 'real'.

Thanks a lot for any and all input/advice!!

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Old 12-18-2011, 01:12 PM   #2
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If you already know how poor the vast majority of us feel Bose products are, why ask? You won't get any responses that you like...
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Old 12-19-2011, 12:24 AM   #4
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Stay FAR away from Blose. You can purchase MUCH better for MUCH less. For example, check out this VERY highly rated Onkyo system http://www.accessories4less.com/make...od-Dock/1.html , or this one http://www.accessories4less.com/make...od-Dock/1.html . More features, more power, more connectivity, better speakers and far, FAR better sound, not to mention $1000 LESS than that junk which you are considering. And these are just a couple of examples of what you can purchase for a fraction of the cost of one of those overpriced, overhyped pieces of paper and plastic that Blose tries to foist on an unsuspecting, ill informed public.

Try comparing Blose to a REAL audio system. You can't. Why not ?? Every other manufacturer in the world gladly allows consumers to compare their systems against others. But Blose wont' allow their systems to be compared to ANYTHING else in ANY retail establishment. Blose knows that if you actually could compare their junk to ANY other manufacturer's systems, Blose would be out of business within a fortnight.

Try finding the specs on Blose equipment. You can't. Why not ?? Every other manufacturer in the world proudly publishes their specs. However, Blose refuses to publish their specs ( though several independent labs HAVE tested Blose systems, and found the results to be truly pathetic ).

You most certainly WILL NOT find ANYONE here, or on any other credible electronics site, who owns any Blose equipment. Yes, it's really that bad. .
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I concur with hdrev - Even if you only want 2.1 because you don't want to deal woth wores you can set-up one of the onkyo systems (or any other) that way and just put the rest away in a closet in case you ever get the urge to run a complete surround system.
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I have some actual experience with a Series II Bose system, so my opinions are based on actual real-world experience not just conjecture.

About eight years ago I moved into a townhouse. I wanted a "large" TV-- the wife said we just don't have room for it. OK-- I'll hang it on the wall over the fireplace. She said that's fine, but ". . . I don't want a bunch of wires and cables running around . . . " --MMMM, OK.

I put a 50" Panasonic plasma on the wall and had all wiring in steel conduit within the wall-- nothing showed-- pretty clean set up.

The room was a "sunken" living room; One side had a large glass door out to the patio and on the other side of the most of it was open and there were steps up into the hallway/dining room. There was just no (easy) way to get wiring back in to the room for speakers.

I went with a Bose system-- a large sub (Acoustimass, if you must) and two front speakers (wiring in the wall). This certainly kept the wife happy. SOUND? Well it sure was a LOT better than the TV speakers. So it worked out OK for me for a few years. DO Not misunderstand me, it was OK and it was better (a lot better) than the TV speakers-- it was never anything better than just OK.

When I bought the Bose system it cost about 20% of what the 50" plasma cost. Today they cost MORE than a 50" plasma-- what's up with that?? When I replaced the 50" Panny with a 58" Sammy, I wanted better sound to go with the Blu-Ray and my DVD-A collection. I sold the Bose on Craig's List and bought an Onkyo systen and had money left over.

I bit the bullet and ran wiring down thru the floor into the basement-- across the room -- up thru the floor again. It was a lot hassle-- but it sure was worth the effort. The first Blu Ray just knocked my socks off. Now, I did not get a high-end Onkyo; it was 1/3 the price of the Bose-- but the sound is at least 300% better.

If you go with the Bose, you may be "satisfied" with it -- but will will never be "happy" with it. It's like comparing masturbation with really great sex-- while both may provide some satisfaction, only one will make you happy.
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There are so many mini-speaker/Sub sets currently available, like:

Boston Acoustics Classic Series 2300 II Speaker System
http://www.hometheater.com/content/b...speaker-system

Mirage MX 5.1 HTSS $479.00
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Polk Black Stone series.

Definitive Technology ProCinema 600 Speaker System

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NHT (now hear this) recent line
NHT SuperZero 2.0 Speaker System
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http://www.hometheater.com/images/71...jpg?1309883932

Cambridge Audio Minx S215 Speaker System
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And many other with various price tags. But all of these are quality speaker not like Bose products.

Read here for a fairly well informed listing of other reviews: http://www.hometheater.com/category/...peaker-reviews
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I'm going to echo what everyone else here is saying.. I understand you've

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I understand all the concerns and disapprovals for Bose systems. However, I've spent enough time listening to all the options and considering my willingness to spend the money and the unwillingness to deal with wires, I've decided on the bose systems. It is down to those two. The soundbar is a relatively new system... and so the reviews are difficult to get.. even more so a comparision with the 2.1 GS system. If anyone has any definitive ideas.... and not just conjectures (!) on how comparable the systems are, I'd very, very much appreciate it!
The thing is, you really are getting screwed with bose, I can't in good conscience recommend them either.

Rizzo provides many alternate options as well, just don't get sucked in to the hype behind them, they're average speakers at a premium price.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:21 AM   #9
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I agree with others here. Bose cost a lot for what they are.

I use a 5+ year old Pioneer and got some closeout/Black Friday Polk Audio speakers. I'm not an Audiophile by any means and my set up sounds fine to me.

Most people I know can tell the difference between crappy speakers and decent speakers, but can't tell the difference between decent speakers.
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Trying to decide between the CineMate GS Series II (2.1; $800) and the CineMate 1 SR (soundbar; $1500).

I understand all the concerns and disapprovals for Bose systems. However, I've spent enough time listening to all the options and considering my willingness to spend the money and the unwillingness to deal with wires, I've decided on the bose systems. It is down to those two. The soundbar is a relatively new system... and so the reviews are difficult to get.. even more so a comparision with the 2.1 GS system. If anyone has any definitive ideas.... and not just conjectures (!) on how comparable the systems are, I'd very, very much appreciate it!

Also, I've been to the bose store and spend considerable time comparing the two systems. The soundbar does sound better (especially the bass). However, a bose store is a controlled environment and the soundbar is almost twice the cost. I don't mind the cost as long as that difference in sound is 'real'.

Thanks a lot for any and all input/advice!!

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I own a Bose Lifestyle 12 II 5.1 Series.
If your going to spend $1500 on a sound bar... you are better off buying a Onkyo 7.1 SS system like the others are saying here...
If I only knew that Bose is so limited when I first bought this... I would've bought a Onkyo 7.1 SS system. You will save your self a lot of money. Take that money and buy a nice Samsung 3D Bluray player.
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