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Old 06-26-2011, 10:25 PM   #1
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Default Front high/wide speakers. Surround speaker placement question.

Just got a 9.2 receiver ( Onkyo 3007 ) and bought a few speakers ( front towers and a center ).. However, before I go any further I need to figure out exactly what kind of set up it's going to be. My main problem is that the room is not large enough and rather long ( 11.5 X 21).. So there isn't really big distance btw the TV and the couch, which has to sit against the wall..so I cannot place back surrounds behind the couch ..The only thing that comes to mind is place them by the wall ( I'll be using Polk R300 towers as surrounds) in which case they will be just slightly behind my ears and more to the side.. and other surrounds more to the front, just to give the sound some space.. Any ideas if it's going to work out ? I know, the best way is to just try it.. but I would hate to buy speakers for a configuration that will not work.
My other dilemma is front high/wide speakers.. since they cannot be used at the same time.. which ones would give a better movie viewing experience? .. in the room of my size and shape..Thanks
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Old 06-26-2011, 11:40 PM   #2
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If your couch is against the back wall, there's no point to a traditional 7.1 system, which needs room behind the seats for the rear speakers. Go with 5.1 or use front height speakers.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:24 AM   #3
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If your couch is against the back wall, there's no point to a traditional 7.1 system, which needs room behind the seats for the rear speakers. Go with 5.1 or use front height speakers.
Actually, I was thinking about 9.1...
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You can do whatever you want, of course. But, it's hard to imagine getting sound anything like the audio mixer intended if you put the rears on the sides and the surrounds in front of the listening position.
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You can do whatever you want, of course. But, it's hard to imagine getting sound anything like the audio mixer intended if you put the rears on the sides and the surrounds in front of the listening position.
Yeah )).. that's the trouble.. What if I put rears right by the couch, so they'll be about 4,5 feet from me and about one foot behind ? And surrounds along the walls..a couple feet towards the TV from me... Still not going to work?
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Yeah )).. that's the trouble.. What if I put rears right by the couch, so they'll be about 4,5 feet from me and about one foot behind ? And surrounds along the walls..a couple feet towards the TV from me... Still not going to work?
Why are you so interested in a layout so ill-suited for the room?
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I welcome all suggestions and ideas.. it's just that most great processing modes use rear surrounds and...to be honest, I would really like to use all 9 channels that I have on the receiver ))).. but if it's not going to work then I will surrender ))
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In your situation you may find useing side surrounds along with front heights will work better. I have to agree that you may make the sound worse if you can't put your rear surrounds where they belong, in the rear, then you won't get the sound that is intended by the mix . I know you want to use all your speakers but useing them incorrectly is worse. Just my .
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Thanks..I guess I'll have to pass on the rears then..It all corresponds to what Chris from Audyssey just wrote to me :

Back Surrounds are the least important speakers to worry about. I would recommend using Front Wides powered by Audyssey DSX. Wides are the most important addition, followed by Heights. The standard surrounds should be placed up high to produce more diffuse sound and not be so easily localized.
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Thanks..I guess I'll have to pass on the rears then..It all corresponds to what Chris from Audyssey just wrote to me :

Back Surrounds are the least important speakers to worry about. I would recommend using Front Wides powered by Audyssey DSX. Wides are the most important addition, followed by Heights. The standard surrounds should be placed up high to produce more diffuse sound and not be so easily localized.
And Chris is correct, forget those rears as using both front wide and height speakers will deliver you a wide, enveloping, surround soundstage where you won't even know the rears are not present.
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And Chris is correct, forget those rears as using both front wide and height speakers will deliver you a wide, enveloping, surround soundstage where you won't even know the rears are not present.
How can I use BOTH front and wide? My understanding is that they cannot be used at the same time.. Either or..
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How can I use BOTH front and wide? My understanding is that they cannot be used at the same time.. Either or..
I'll have to check on that. If you don't use the rears I believe you can. In any case the height would be the most important to incorporate.
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I'll have to check on that. If you don't use the rears I believe you can. In any case the height would be the most important to incorporate.
At least that's what the manual says..
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You can only use front hieghts or wides instead of rears, not both.
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You can only use front hieghts or wides instead of rears, not both.
I believe I can use rears AND front heights or wides.. Otherwise , what are the 9 channels for in a 9.2 receiver? The question was whether it's possible to use both of them ( heights and wides ) instead of rears.
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