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Old 11-27-2004, 06:09 PM   #1
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Default Sony KDF-50WE655 owners? New setup help!

We just had our's delivered today, but didn't have the delivery guy set it up, because Sony recommends letting it aclimate to indoor temps before turning on.

We got a Cox self install kit ...Explorer 3250 STB. The instructions for self install say Cable from wall to STB..... Component to TV...RCA's for audio at the moment.

The STD picture is CRAPPY and the only high def stations that were better were DISCHD and IND01/02 stations.

Sony's literature on this TV is totally different than Cox's setup.

Did you go with Sony's setup?

We have an APC 725v ES series UPS....removed that out of the loop entirely figuring it was introducing noise. No change.

Took the DVD out of the loop, no change.

Also, tried the DVD direct to the TV thru component with no CATV hookup at all, did not produce the 'spectacular' viewing that I heard so much about. Put in The Passion and The Day After Tommorow and thought our old 27" CRT looked crisper. What gives?!! lol

I called Cox and they are sending out a tech Tues to check the signal, and bring a CC if that will give me a better picture. The run on the coax is about 25 ft and the coax is not new. I suspect line noise or that coax is bad...although it was a perfect signal on the 27". I'll have the tech bring a 10 ft coax to see if it clears up the problem.

Guess I said alot to ultimately ask, if we should follow Sony's setup guide. In desperation, I told my DH to remove the component cables from the STB (to TV) and use the short coax instead. That did clear up the signal quite a bit. The sony literature has many different configurations, but they all seem to want the coax into the set either from the STB or DVD, etc.

What was your optimum setup? Will a CC help? I plan to buy a surge protector, but do I really have to buy a $300+ surge/noise filter to clean up SD stations? Most of them look like an old, low quality VHS tape. Pixelated and barely focused. Some worse than others. The SD channels also have an effect like faded or something. Like the projector screens they used to have in school. Not just the blacks, but the whole picture. Weird.

The HD channels with coax in to TV are crisp now, so I would think the signal is getting through clear. I am very confused. I don't mind buying a line filter/protector if it will do the job, but the $ range on those are off the charts. I don't want to buy something that won't work. I would gladly spend $300. more though if it would help. But, for $300 units vs $90. surges/filters, I don't see a whole lot of difference in specs...just mumbo jumbo double speak.

My DH likes the TV just fine, but his vision isn't as good as mine

Thanks for any help you can offer. I spent all that time researching PQ, longevity, burn in issues, etc and liked Sony LCD RPT the best, only to have a crappy cable connection. Talk about let down I am amazed that we have to spend $ on line filters! The cable companies should provide them for their signal. Years ago they used to put one on the line if their was signal loss or noise.

Like I said, I'm confused. Maybe all the noise is internal wiring. We're in an apt, so we're stuck with what we have, but the TV and STB are the only EQ hooked up to the outlet, so I can't see it being cross talk. Our last place was so bad the tv would blitz when you turned on the vacumn or disposal. This place is pristine in comparison.

Sorry for the long wind. HELP
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:17 AM   #2
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Need more info,Hopefully youve figured it out by now(post a few hours old)
" bring a CC if that will give me a better picture"......Whats aCC ?
"My DH likes the TV just fine"...........Whats a DH?
What dvd player do you have?
"Cable from wall to STB..... Component to TV...RCA's for audio" ......This sounds right ! jo
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:28 AM   #3
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Chances are if the discovery high def channel looks good, its hooked up correctly.Most std. def. channels can look very bad,its just the fact that your new tv is now blowing up all noise,I would keep that appt. with the cable co. maybe they can clean up the signal, good luck keep us posted ,jo
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Old 11-28-2004, 03:32 PM   #4
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DVD is an Ilo DVD burner with HD (made by Liteon) Worked great on my old TV.

CC is a cable card rather than STB.

I'll let you know what the tech says about the signal and configuration.

I also notice straight lines on furniture, etc are wavy on HD. Txt is awful! Like looking at Windows XP on a laptop without clear type enabled. The txt of Sony's menus looks fine though. ???

Wish this tv had more tweaks. It has a diagnostics sub menu, but it's grayed out and not much help.
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Old 11-28-2004, 07:26 PM   #5
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One thing to check -- cuz I just got the same TV -- is to make sure that your DVD player is set up to show your default monitor as 16x9 and not 4:3 -- go to the SETUP menu on your DVD player.

Check out the HD channels on your TV - if they look like HD, you're set up OK. Yeah, regular TV looks horrible when it's blown up to 50" -- but HD is gorrrrrrrrrrrgeous.
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Old 11-28-2004, 10:00 PM   #6
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Cool kirbyko3........glad to find a fellow we655 user I'll have my husband check the dvd settings and adjust them. The poor reception of SD and jagged lines on HD (and other stations) is without the dvd connected. We've pretty much tried every configuration.

I found an active Sony forum and did a search on jagged lines here:

http://www.agoraquest.com/viewforum.php?forum=34

They have a search box midway down on the left side of the page. Just make sure you click the GO button for the forum search field or it will take you to sony manuals. lol I'm an idiot and kept ending up at sony support!

I'm not alone on the jagged line issue, but they did have some good recommendations for tweaking the DRC settings in Advanced Video. Lots of good information there. No one could completely get rid of the jagged lines, but the settings changes make it tolerable.

Hope to pick your brain some more kirby!
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I have read that the SA 3250 STB is terrible with SD material, while the SA 8000HD is miles ahead in function and quality. Perhaps mfabien will chime in to better explain this or you can PM him if you like.
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hey thx Maximus. I'll be sure and tell the tech tommorow about the reviews I've read on the 3250. I don't know if cox has the 8000 in my area. If not, I'll go with the cable card.

Picked up a Phillips rg6 shielded coax cable today to try to get a cleaner signal from the wall, and got NO signal at all. The package said superior speed and less noise than a rg59. Wasn't clear if RG6 is only for connected components or from the wall outlet. It didn't work from wall to 3250 at all.
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Old 12-15-2004, 10:59 PM   #9
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I too had the same problem. SD looked *GREAT* on my Sony 27", but now looks grainy on the 50".

I have all new cable running into an SA 8300, and component out from the cable box to the TV.

I have found two things:
1. I did have marginal signal strength that caused the SA box to make things worse. Removing uneeded splits (extra outlets) in the cable and that helped restore some signal strength. All cable is RG-6.

2. Coax cable directly in to the TV (Cable input) proved to be markedly better. Much better. My conclusion: SA cable box causes some the of the artifacts I am seeing. Its either the tuner or the process of upconverting the SD signal to HD signal OR BOTH that introduce the extra noise.

I am going to get a Cable Card to see how that works... I will keep the 8300 hooked up for the DVR portion and for ordering movies...

Hope that helps,
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Unhappy Help, new Sony KDF-50WE655 gets dimming sometimes

Hi, I just bought a new Sony KDF-50WE655 GrandWega from a online store and TV arrived on Dec. 27, 04. However, the TV recently seemed to have some problem. Sometimes, it was dimming and then a few seconds later, it came brighter again. I don;t know whether this is the problem of the bulbs? but the indicator for bulbs change is not on either. Can anyone here please tell me what is the problem? Help.... and thank you very much for your help!!!!
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