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Old 02-16-2005, 09:49 PM   #31
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I dont know what sd normal is ,but on the RCA reciever if I am watching HD a green light will appear under the letters HDTV and there is a big difference. One other test CLP is to channel to ESPN HD and see a basketball game ,when the game is on the TV screen it will have the black bars top and bottom of screen,but when a commercial is on you will still have black bars and also you will have gray or black vertical bars on each side of screen this will determine if you are watching true HD in 16:9 aspect ratio. (game in 16:9 HD, commercial in 4:3) I am sorry but I dont know alot about DISH 811 reciever ,but if you can change to DIRECT TV the RCA is the bomb for first generation mitsh!!!!!!!!!

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Old 02-17-2005, 11:20 AM   #32
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clp: on the 811 remote if you press the page up arrow several times the banner changes to hd normal, stretch, partial zoom, full zoom and gray bar. try this and let me know if you feel you are getting true hd with the kd adapter. hopefully you solved the problem without having to go to direct tv. you had to change the tv to hd i guess as it just did not recognize the signal when set to hd auto? let me know if true hd is finally yours and i will pop for the kd adapter. does it come with component and bnc to rgb cables? i assume we ignore the "contol input" computer type input on back of the tv. by the way does any one know if component cables are any different than "regular" video (yellow) and red, white audio cables? a repair guy just used regular cables and said there is no difference between the two. seems like the component cables must be different in some respects? thanks jack
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Old 02-17-2005, 12:19 PM   #33
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Basically, component cables are the same as A/V cables, except the terminations are red-green-blue, as opposed to yellow-white-red.

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Old 02-17-2005, 06:05 PM   #34
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Jack: Thanks for the information on the 811 remote. If you press the format button on the mitsu remote it shows 16:9 1080. Switching forward with the input button (input 1 s-video from 811) you can see a big difference in picture quality.
No cables came with the KD adapter. Compotent came with the receiver and I purchased the VGA -RGBHV with BNC male connectors at a electronics warehouse for $18.00.
There's a HVI to VGA adapter available $249.00. I was afraid to buy it since the KD adapter was recommended on this site.
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Old 02-17-2005, 08:02 PM   #35
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clp: this is a silly question. do you still have the set connected with s-video cables and bnc or just connected with the bnc digital connectors. if only with the digital connections i assume now you are getting true 1080i. are you now satisfied that the kd box is working and all is well with hd on the mitsu? mitsu is finally returning my money for both rgb-cv10 boxes with no restocking fee!! so in 30 days or so i will get the kd box. also thanks to amf1932 saying no difference between component and regular video-audio cables. let me know if you are completely satisfied with kd box. thanks jack
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:11 PM   #36
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Please excuse my extreme ignorace on this subject. But, I'm kinda lost as to what exactly you guys are speaking of. I, too, have a 50800. I was under the assumption that we can simply get BNC to RCA adapters and just connect that way. Is that not the case? I have never tried this before. In fact I'm not sure what my TV is actually capable of. I was thinking of connecting a progressive scan DVD player via the adapters to the BNC inputs. Will this not yield better results that just connecting component to the comp. inputs?

What am I missing??
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Old 02-22-2005, 07:52 PM   #37
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bob: the old mitsu hd sets do not have "wideband" component dvd input so your progressive scan dvd player will work only in interlaced mode when connected to the tv's dvd component inputs. i tried the progressive mode on dvd player and got no picture. to make matters worse the hd jacks with the bnc connectors only work on certain receivers like rca over the air receiver as reported on this forum. this receiver apparently works using the rgb 15 pin rgb to the bnc jacks cable know as breakout cable. if you have a dish 811 hd receiver with only component output (it has dvi also but mitsu set has no dvi either) you need an "adapter module ($300) to make it work. the mitsu adapter rgb-cv10 does not work as i have found out painfully. the kd adapter apparently works and as soon as i get my money back from mitsu i will get one and hopefully get hd finally. our old first generation hd sets are way behind in this area as they do not have at least a true hd componet input. hope this helps. jack
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Old 02-23-2005, 10:05 AM   #38
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Thanks, Jack!

Well, doesn't this suck?!?!?
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Old 02-23-2005, 07:29 PM   #39
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bob: it sucks big time!! i could not find any cable that has rca plugs on one end and bnc on the other and even if it did exist i doubt it would work anyway. what hd source (satellite, over the air, cable) are you planning to use to get hd?? once you figure this out make sure somehow the mitsu tv will accept the input with adapter or whatever cable will work with it. go to ramelectronics.net and see their kd-ctca3 adapter for $300. supposedly it does work. jack
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:06 AM   #40
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Thanks, Jack! Honestly, I'm not sure what I want to go with. At this point I just wanted to connect a progressive scan DVD play and actually use the progressive benefits. I figured I could do so by going into the HD inputs. Hmmm... My understanding is that Radio Shack have BNC to RCA adapters! But, I haven't had the time to run up there and check.

I didn't actually buy this TV for HD. I bought it new for $800 a couple of years ago. I just wanted a big screen finally and came across this deal. I haven't done much with it, other than use if for a monitor in my HT set up.
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Old 02-25-2005, 02:30 PM   #41
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bob: now you know why you paid $800. i paid $3500 i think 6 years ago and still don't have hd. i was on the "bleeding edge" of hd and should have waited. i will say the set has a beautiful sd picture much better than an analog set i think. the set has a line doubler that really gives a great picture as long as the convergence is adjusted properly by a tv tech. i still don't think rca to bnc cables are available and don't think it would work anyhow. a dvd player with the interlaced setting still looks great to me. i don't think much difference between progressive and interlaced on this set. jack
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Old 02-28-2005, 08:48 AM   #42
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Yes, it does have a very nice picture! Can't deny it that! I would really like to have a tech come out and calibrate it for me at some point. I've done the Video Essentials and Sound and Vision's version, but that's as far as I'm willing to go since I don't have much knowledge any further than that. Would be my luck to totally "F" it up!
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Old 02-28-2005, 11:31 AM   #43
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i got into the "service menu" and messed up the convergence. the service guy got into the service menu and did a great job on convergence. i tried to do it by using the remote but it looked crappy. good luck with your pursuit of hd (if you are interested in hd) with your tv. i will report in a few months if i ever get it to work with the kd adapter box.
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Old 03-02-2005, 06:17 PM   #44
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(This has been a very informative forum, thanks to all those who have submitted.... this problem must lend itself to group therapy)

Here's my question:

I have read a few forums for suggestions on how to use my $3500 (7 years ago) "High Def Ready" TV to actually receive High Def. You'd think for that money that Mits would make this easy, but they don't. Then I realized if anyone has a vested interest in seeing me use and pay for HDTV, especially as I am ready to plunk down a grand on a high def DVR, it would be DirectTV, not Mitsubishi. I've read some on Key Digital's Component to VGA, then VGA to 5-pin BNC breakdown approach. What I'm trying to find out is there any DirecTV HD receiver/dvr that will go direct to a RGBHV (BNC connector), or at least VGA out, so I don't have to also buy the $300 Key Digital converter, just a VGA to BNC cable. Thanks!
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:27 AM   #45
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slacker: in this thread somone reported direct tv has the rca dtc210 as a receiver with rgb outputs. i have dish 811 with no rgb output and will not change to direct at this point. i guess try direct and see if you can get one of the rca receivers. i still would not bet on it working in hd with our old mitsu sets (without an adapter module of some type) but it just might work. jack
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