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Old 01-17-2005, 03:42 PM   #16
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sport: i have tried to adjust the convergence thru the "regular" tv menu but it looks pretty poor (still watchable however) . the grid of the convergence is all wavy and not straight and top of set is pulled in a little. i really need the tech to get it back to where it was. i think mitsu can get the rgb-cv10 working. i am not sure why i feel this way but they are willing to try to figure it out in any event. thanks for your efforts. jack
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:59 PM   #17
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I have a Mitsubishi VS-50800 TV.Can anyone help me find the menu to change to DTV and cycle from AUTO to HD.
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:39 PM   #18
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the command is hit the menu button then 1-3-7-0. then "toggle" between hd and auto. be careful not to go further and mess with the convergence setting like i did and mess it up. i assume you have a 5 pin bnc to d-sub cable and want to see if this setup will avoid the dreaded rgb-cv10 box which i cannot get to work. i got a green screen when using the bnc to d-sub cable and my hi-tech neighbor says the vs-50803 i have cannot recognize the synch mode or something. good luuck and hope this helps.
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Old 01-31-2005, 09:15 PM   #19
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Just got clarification on these foul boxes, mits no is longer offering the RGB-cv10 as an adapter to go from Y,Pb,Pr 1080i source device box to the first generattion sets (800,803,903 series)which had a DTV input but it only takes RGB H+V using BNC connectors and you HAVE to use the HDTV adaptor (FlexMicro cable,trademark name) to activate the input. What mits is suggesting is to purchase the Key Digital KD-CTCA3(component to VGA adaptor) plus you will need the VGA to RGBHV breakout which you can get at computer store. Here is a link to a Key Digital online dealer
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/k...3+kd&ovtac=PPC
Of course you know you will have to go to your service screen on the TV and change the DTV to HD and please remember ONLY CHANGE DTV PORT the other options on DTV PORT other than "auto" or "HD" mode do not work.
If the "E2 RESET" item is entered it can make the TV unworkable!!!!!
Hope this answers some questions.....
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Old 02-02-2005, 08:49 PM   #20
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cats: thanks for your advice on this frustrating problem. mitsu people have not told me this as they are "working" on my second rgb-cv10 box and will talk to me shortly!! so let me understand. i pay 299.95 for kd box then i pay to get a component cable from the dish 811 to the kd-ctca3 then a "dsub" type breakout cable with the 15 pin connectors to the 5 bnc type to go to the vs 50803? none of these cables are provided with the kd ctca3 i presume. so i am out well over $350 or so to get this done? i wonder if this kd box will work????? this box is not powered by ac adapter as the dreaded rbg-cv10 (i wonder why). i am worried about buying this unit after messing with the mitsu box. are you going to buy this kd box? if so i would wait til i hear if it works from you. in any event this is good news and bad news ($350 cost). i would sell the mitsu set and get a new one but my lady friend will not let me. many thanks jack
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Old 02-03-2005, 06:37 AM   #21
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We are still trying desperately to find a RCA DTC210 receiver instead of purchasing the converter box recommended by Mitsubishi. So far, in the Dallas area, we aren't having any luck finding the RCA receiver. Some stores still have Samsung--but only one or so. Based on what we've read here about the Samsung, we are hesitant to go that route. However, our options are quickly diminishing!
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Old 02-03-2005, 11:55 AM   #22
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cats: the rca dtc210 is a direct tv hd box only? or is it a stand alone OTA box also? i know sport 73 got it to work with his mitsu but i am not anxious to change from dish tv after just getting their 811 receiver installed. also i tried a zenith hd OTA box with rgb to bnc and got a green picture so i would have to make sure the rca would work with my mitsu. i am stuck in a holding pattern at this point but appreciate the advice on the kd-ctca3 adapter but i will wait til i hear from mitsu first to see what to do next. i hope you get your rca box from direct tv (i assume you are going to go direct tv?). keep me up to dat on your quest for HD with our "old" mitsu tv's. jack
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Old 02-04-2005, 09:36 PM   #23
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We got the RCA DTC210 box today (yes, it's a DirectTV HD receiver) and our television is now broadcasting beautiful HD picture--Discover HD is especially awesome! Looks like we'll be using this setup for a while until we decide to purchase another TV set--maybe a year or so from now.
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Old 02-12-2005, 12:34 PM   #24
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Well, my family just upgraded our cable service to HD but when the service guy was hooking it up to my FG 50803, I ran into the problem you guys are talking about. I have to use the Motorola DCT6200 to access adelphia cable. It has only the RGB outputs (just red, blue green - no 15 pin VGA or HV).

Where do I go from here? Do I break down and buy this KD-CTCA3 and the VGA to RGB +HV? Is that the only way?

I am really frustrated because Soundtrack where I bought this promised me that they would support this unit into the future and here I am and all they did was point me to this forum!

Thanks in advance
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:34 PM   #25
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rw: i assume you have the vs50803 mitsu old hd tv. i don't know what an fg50803 is. it appears you have the dreaded 5 pin bnc rgb+hv connectors on your tv. if so do not buy the rgb-cv10 mitsu adapter box. it did not work with my dish 811 receiver that has only component outputs (has dvi also). mitsu support people tell me they do not make the rgb-cv10 now and have a new mfg of a adapter box (i see not reason to try this box either). mitsu people are sending back my rbg-cv10 after they checked it out and found nothing wrong!! i wrote a letter in the box and told them about it not working with dish 811 but they just sent it back!! this does me no good. i also tried my neighbor's zenith Over the Air box which did have the rgb 15 pin output and 5 bnc cables but got a green tint on whole screen. i am afraid at this point unless Sound and Vision magazine (i wrote them) can come up with a solution our "old" style hd sets are never going to get hd. i can't see just continuing to get adapters or new boxes from new providers. i would just get rid of the tv but my lady friend won't go for it. keep in touch and i will let you know if i can find a solution but it isn't going to be easy. also i am writing mitsu home office to voice my displeasure with them selling a tv and having the gall to charge $300 for a adapter box that doesn't work. they should just give us a box that works after paying $3500 for the set. hope this helps. jack
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Old 02-15-2005, 12:00 PM   #26
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Jack - sorry. FG = "First Generation". It is the standard SV-50803 (I think it's sv don't have my manual here). I will take your approach and NOT buy the mitsu box. I am considering the Key Digital KD-CTCA3. Someone else on this thread said mitsu recommended it but then they bought a RCA DTC210 and it worked. I can't use this one (I don't think) because I have to decode the adelphia HDTV signal first. let me know if you get any response from either mitsu or Sound and Vision magazine. The KD-CTCA3 sells for $299.00 as well.

I agree that I'm terribly disappointed with Mitsu for doing this to us with no recourse. I specifically asked the question when I bought this system whether or not it would be supported for years to come and the answer was yes.
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Old 02-15-2005, 05:49 PM   #27
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rw: if you want to call key digital and see if they "guarantee" the kd-ctca3 will work with your motorola box i would also like to know if it works with dish 811 receiver. the kd adapter sounds ideal but before i spend another $300 i would want absolute guarantee. they say it works with all hdtv receivers. i note it is not powered like the mitsu rgb-cv10 (it had a a/c power plug) and also does not have the "control" cable which i think is for using the mitsu remote control? you should check this out also. i am waiting to get my money back on 2 rgb-cv10 boxes before i pursue any more possible wrong ideas like maybe the kd box. since you have not tried any ideas i think giving the kd box a chance with the proviso they will take it back if it doesn't work with your motorola receiver. let me know what you decide and how it comes out. jack
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:25 PM   #28
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I just purchased the key digital CTCA3 adapter box. Hooked it up from my 811 receiver and the picture quality is better than from the s-video connection. I have the high def. package from dish but I don't know if I'm seeing true 1080i. When I change channels (9420 & up) the sd normal box is highlighted and not the hd normal box.
Jack8219 the kd box is powered by 120 vac.
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Old 02-15-2005, 09:04 PM   #29
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Fella's, Fella's, first of all you are not going to get HD through an s-video cable just a good picture.As sport 73 has written and done and I followed . If you have a first gen mitsu tv you have two solutions (#1) go out and get a RCA DTC 210 HD reciever($299.00), get a 15 pin DSUB to 5 BNC breakout male (R,G,B,H,V)(39.95), switch reciever to rgb, plug in 15 pin to back of reciever,other end R,G,B,H,V to HD side of tv . On front of reciever flip switch to 1080i, on tv remote push menu then enter #'s 1,3,7,0 scroll down to DTV PORT push enter until it reads HD push home button to get out of menu,(DO NOT CHANGE ANY THING ELSE IN THAT SERVICE MENU I,I,I,REPEAT DO NOT CHANGE ANY THING ELSE IN THAT SERVICE MENU) push input on remote to HD screen turn on tv and enjoy. Optional you can hook up a fiber optic audio cable from RCA reciever to your stereo reciever(I have a Denon reciever,input to DVD/VDP on remote and when I watch HD programming in dolby digital 5.1 it will automatically play,every thing else plays in dolby-pro-logic.) Discovery HD channel is exceptionally clear you can even see grains of sand around swimmsuit models legs(ha,ha, I hope my wife doesnt read this). OH YEAH, I forgot solution (#2) go out and by a new tv with the latest technology HDMI.
I hope this is big help if it was'nt for sport I would be in the hole for a new tv.
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Old 02-15-2005, 09:54 PM   #30
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I have the compontent video out of my dish 811 receiver set to 1081i and I hooked up the KD-CTCA3 box with the vga to rgbhv cable to the hd input on the mitsu. (Set menu to HD) Through the DTV input my picture quality is much better when compared to the input 1 (s-video). When watching the hi def channels the program banner shows sd normal not hd normal. So I not sure if this is true hi def.
I also have a Denon receiver hook up with a fiber optic cable.
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