Anyone getting nervous about this new Swine Flu vaccine and skipping much testing?

Lee Stewart · 09-02-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Thought i would bump this back up given the law they are trying to pass in Massachusetts.

According to this a law DID pass in MA:

http://markcrispinmiller.com/2009/08...ce-in-spokane/

**PFC5** · 09-02-2009, 08:06 PM

AFAIK this only passed the Senate and still must pass the state House of Reps, and then the governor must sign it.

It is sad that I cannot find any info confirming passage if it did already pass and become law huh? Makes you wonder WHY it didn't get any news media mention before it passed.

Cygnus · 09-02-2009, 08:10 PM

The 70's commercials seem more like a grade B horror flick...

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DIRECTVMAN · 09-22-2009, 10:05 PM

I'm not really worried about the regular flu shot or H1N1 flu shot.

I haven't gotten the influenza flu shot for a long time. I've never had any troubles.

Last year for about a week or so every night on the news we had an H1N1 update. After that, nothing really mentioned. It'll probably be the same thing this time around, big scare before hand of how bad it's going to be then no big deal once some new cases of it are reported.

I remember how we were all gonna die from the bird flu. That didn't happen either.

Chris Gerhard · 09-24-2009, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

AFAIK this only passed the Senate and still must pass the state House of Reps, and then the governor must sign it.

It is sad that I cannot find any info confirming passage if it did already pass and become law huh? Makes you wonder WHY it didn't get any news media mention before it passed.

I haven't seen that the Massachusetts law imposing a fine and jail time for not obeying public health officials has passed. In addition, I haven't seen the announcement that public health officials have declared the swine flu is a public health crisis or that orders to take the swine flu vaccine have been given by public health officials. I don't believe the law has passed and have no idea who wrote the article Lee linked or if he has any idea about the issue. The law doesn't sound like it would be a popular one if it does pass.

Chris

DIRECTVMAN · 09-24-2009, 08:26 PM

I always thought flu shots were in the arm.

A female co-worker told me she just got a flu shot and they made her pull down her pants & underwear and bend forward over a table so they could administer the flu shot in her backside.

jim8888 · 09-29-2009, 02:48 AM

I do work for an older guy that is in his 80's

He got a flu shot and it was "a bad batch" I guess!

His arm swelled up really bad and was infected from the shot.

So he had to get two more shots of antibiotics for the infection he got from the flu shot!

So there are some risks getting these shots.

He was pretty upset and his arm looked bad but he is ok now.

admo · 09-29-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DIRECTVMAN

I always thought flu shots were in the arm.

A female co-worker told me she just got a flu shot and they made her pull down her pants & underwear and bend forward over a table so they could administer the flu shot in her backside.

Doesn't sound like she got the flu shot. Sounds like she got something else in her backside...

DIRECTVMAN · 09-30-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by admo

Doesn't sound like she got the flu shot. Sounds like she got something else in her backside...

She also said her Dentist makes her remove all her clothes when she goes in for a checkup.

okdude123 · 10-28-2009, 12:11 AM

Any thoughts on the link below? Just came in my inbox. Sure is an interesting read at least.

"Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder"

http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pa...terrorism.html

**PFC5** · 10-28-2009, 12:44 AM

I have read that some people believe that these vaccinations are to help lower the global population because it is too high to sustain everyone for much longer with the resources available on earth.

I think it is far fetched myself, but who kows for sure? I just do not trust much of the gov't like I use to.

okdude123 · 10-28-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I have read that some people believe that these vaccinations are to help lower the global population because it is too high to sustain everyone for much longer with the resources available on earth.

I think it is far fetched myself, but who kows for sure? I just do not trust much of the gov't like I use to.

Me too, not much trust left in the gov either, but yes it is a little far fetched. The 2nd link at the end of that page compiling the charges is a good read though. http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/case-about-bird-flu/

After a few pages it goes from english to german, but the first few pages have enough info. I hope we get to read this stuff after 2010 as our country is apparently going to be the first western country to try and halt the net more or less. http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...ensorship.html

GymBrat98 · 10-28-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

I have read that some people believe that these vaccinations are to help lower the global population because it is too high to sustain everyone for much longer with the resources available on earth.

I think it is far fetched myself, but who kows for sure? I just do not trust much of the gov't like I use to.

Hey P, since the virus is passed through droplets, sneezing/coughing. would you be nervous if your child attended a birthday party, since the they take a deep breath, and blow out the candles? I'm sure that would be a way to get it, yes?

**PFC5** · 10-28-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GymBrat98

Hey P, since the virus is passed through droplets, sneezing/coughing. would you be nervous if your child attended a birthday party, since the they take a deep breath, and blow out the candles? I'm sure that would be a way to get it, yes?

Only if the birthday boy/girl already had it and spits on the cake.

Most likely less people will get Swine Flu compared to the regular flu and I do not vaccinate my kids for that either. My mother was getting flu shots every year for the last 12+ years and every single year she got the flu shortly after getting the shot. I finally convinced her not to get it last year and guess what? She never got the flu last year.

I don't care what they say about the virus being dead in the vaccine, but it surely was not simple coincidence that 12 years of getting the shot and she got the flu and the first year she didn't get the flu shot she didn't get the flu. Ditto fort other people I know also.

GymBrat98 · 10-28-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Only if the birthday boy/girl already had it and spits on the cake.

Most likely less people will get Swine Flu compared to the regular flu and I do not vaccinate my kids for that either. My mother was getting flu shots every year for the last 12+ years and every single year she got the flu shortly after getting the shot. I finally convinced her not to get it last year and guess what? She never got the flu last year.

I don't care what they say about the virus being dead in the vaccine, but it surely was not simple coincidence that 12 years of getting the shot and she got the flu and the first year she didn't get the flu shot she didn't get the flu. Ditto fort other people I know also.

I'm with you on that. I have never gotten a flu shot, and maybe I got the flu on my own a few times in my life. I really hate needles too. I make sure I wash my hands, and don''t touch my face when out in public. I also carry hand sanitizer in my car, because grocery carts are some of the most germiest places on the planet! Oh, the gym is a hot bed of germs too.

09-02-2009, 08:06 PM	#32
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,401	AFAIK this only passed the Senate and still must pass the state House of Reps, and then the governor must sign it. It is sad that I cannot find any info confirming passage if it did already pass and become law huh? Makes you wonder WHY it didn't get any news media mention before it passed. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

10-28-2009, 12:11 AM	#40
okdude123 High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 559	Any thoughts on the link below? Just came in my inbox. Sure is an interesting read at least. "Journalist Files Charges against WHO and UN for Bioterrorism and Intent to Commit Mass Murder" http://www.naturalnews.com/026503_pa...terrorism.html Last edited by okdude123; 10-28-2009 at 12:15 AM.

10-28-2009, 12:44 AM	#41
PFC5 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28,401	I have read that some people believe that these vaccinations are to help lower the global population because it is too high to sustain everyone for much longer with the resources available on earth. I think it is far fetched myself, but who kows for sure? I just do not trust much of the gov't like I use to. __________________ Denon AVR-887 Klipsch RP-5 Pwred Towers (mains) (525 watts peak each 12"Subs) All Klipsch RC-25(ctr),(2)SS1(surr),(2)SS1(rearSurr) Toshiba (2)HD-A20,PS3,BD35 For SACD/DVD-A Samsung HD-841 Panny 50pz80u plasma SETTINGS RCA HD50LPW162 50"DLP w/HD2+ SA 3250HD 47" LCD+Yamaha5790+HD-A1(bedroom) Harmony 680 + (2) 670s (amazing remote/support) Game room with Onkyo receiver & B&W Speakers The_Cable_Game Take the high ground and be happier

09-22-2009, 10:05 PM	#34
DIRECTVMAN High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 291	I'm not really worried about the regular flu shot or H1N1 flu shot. I haven't gotten the influenza flu shot for a long time. I've never had any troubles. Last year for about a week or so every night on the news we had an H1N1 update. After that, nothing really mentioned. It'll probably be the same thing this time around, big scare before hand of how bad it's going to be then no big deal once some new cases of it are reported. I remember how we were all gonna die from the bird flu. That didn't happen either.

09-24-2009, 08:26 PM	#36
DIRECTVMAN High Definition is the definition of life. Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 291	I always thought flu shots were in the arm. A female co-worker told me she just got a flu shot and they made her pull down her pants & underwear and bend forward over a table so they could administer the flu shot in her backside.

09-29-2009, 02:48 AM	#37
jim8888 How can anyone watch standard def? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 27	I do work for an older guy that is in his 80's He got a flu shot and it was "a bad batch" I guess! His arm swelled up really bad and was infected from the shot. So he had to get two more shots of antibiotics for the infection he got from the flu shot! So there are some risks getting these shots. He was pretty upset and his arm looked bad but he is ok now.