Computer Protection

[Rich_Guy]

Always make sure your computer is protected!

[kamspy]

More useful than any AntiVirus (snake oil) software.

[GymBrat98]

LOL, Rich Guy

[glennb1]

LOL, KAMPSY

Snake oil

[kamspy]

Originally Posted by glennb1

LOL, KAMPSY

Snake oil

I got no antivirus, and no viruses. So either I'm incredibly lucky (I click links on 4chan for god's sake), or there's some truth to my rambling.

It's fear mongering. The whole anti-virus biz. I guess it could be useful for people who do open emails in Outlook/Thunderbird from unknown spam bots, and then click the downloads images/content prompt. But if you're not that guy, you're not going to get viruses.

The smallest bit of internet common sense is better than any anti-virus 'suite'.

I fear for the day when Microsoft requires anti-virus insurance to license a copy of Windows.

[mshulman]

Originally Posted by kamspy

I got no antivirus, and no viruses. So either I'm incredibly lucky (I click links on 4chan for god's sake), or there's some truth to my rambling.

It's fear mongering. The whole anti-virus biz. I guess it could be useful for people who do open emails in Outlook/Thunderbird from unknown spam bots, and then click the downloads images/content prompt. But if you're not that guy, you're not going to get viruses.

The smallest bit of internet common sense is better than any anti-virus 'suite'.

I fear for the day when Microsoft requires anti-virus insurance to license a copy of Windows.

There is some luck to your not getting infected yet, but most of it is common sense in surfing and clicking on links..etc If you don't know who its from..etc, then you probably shouldn't click.

What you may not be protected against though, is if someone connected a computer to your network and was infected. In fact, it is possible that you could be infected with a trojan or other malware and just aren't aware of it.

Either way, AV can be had for free for home users. In business its pretty critical to have it since there's always someone who will click on something they shouldn't.

[kamspy]

I agree that it's need in business environments for the reasons you stated.

But no educated individual has a good reason to spend a dime on it for their home computer. Even the free stuff eats up CPU cycles, memory, and pops a ton of false positives which likely confuse the user even further.

[glennb1]

Originally Posted by kamspy

But no educated individual has a good reason to spend a dime on it for their home computer. Even the free stuff eats up CPU cycles, memory, and pops a ton of false positives which likely confuse the user even further.

Here's another great example of how you do something a certain way and you've decided that anyone that doesn't go along with your thinking must an uneducated indivdual.

In another thread you said this about a guy whose car was stalling and you figured out that it was being caused by loose battery cables on his car and he didn't know how to figure it out - Yes it makes him a dummy AND a lesser person. Why throw away a perfectly good car instead of doing 3 minutes of research? Natural selection didn't choose that guy to go far.
The car was 13 years old I'm sure he wasn't selling the car just because of the stalling problem.

I have antivirus software on my home computer and you don't. I don't think doing it your way is a great idea but that doesn't automatically make me think you're an idiot.

[mshulman]

Originally Posted by kamspy

I agree that it's need in business environments for the reasons you stated.

But no educated individual has a good reason to spend a dime on it for their home computer. Even the free stuff eats up CPU cycles, memory, and pops a ton of false positives which likely confuse the user even further.

Even a smart individual can make a stupid mistake. That's what anti-virus protects against.

[oblioman]

sorry gents, but me must side with kamspy on this one. But lets rephrase his verbage - an experienced computer user knows that AV programs are not only a waste of money, but also resource hogs. Been running wide open broadband - with 3 different users in me household - for the better part of the last 8 years - with no virus yet. Matter of fact, me sideline business is repairing and cleaning any and all confusers sent me way. A majority of the computers have AV software on them, most have proprietary AV software that was pre-installed as an "add on" when they bought the computer. Me first clean - is to remove all AV software and in most cases, the computer perks up. Me second clean is for malware which is more prevalent than said viruses. Me third clean is to instruct the user on certain software to use once or twixt a month to insure their computer stays clean. Sure seems funny that all these computers that have AV on them, also have some malware or crap on them that they were supposedly protected from. Me gut feeling is that Norton and Mcrapee send out their own malware and pseudo-virus every now and then just to sell more product.

[glennb1]

Originally Posted by oblioman

sorry gents, but me must side with kamspy on this one.

So you think anyone that uses Antivirus on a home PC is an idiot ?
That's what Kamspy thinks.

[Loves2Watch]

Originally Posted by glennb1

He says "me" all the time instead of "my". He calls computers "confusers". He said "twixt" instead of "twice". He said "Mcrapee" instead of "McAfee".

That kinda makes it seem like he's drunk or high or something.

I don't think I'd want him to send my (me) computer to him to fix.

That is the way of Otis. Nothing wrong or drunk here it is just his way of talking here. He has been doing that for years.

[mshulman]

Originally Posted by oblioman

sorry gents, but me must side with kamspy on this one. But lets rephrase his verbage - an experienced computer user knows that AV programs are not only a waste of money, but also resource hogs.

I think McAfee and Norton are a complete waste.

At home, many of my systems have nothing on them. On my laptop which I connect at clients, I have A/V.

The risk if you know how viruses spread and how malware infects systems is low. But if you are unfamiliar with that as most people are, then having A/V protection is a good idea. Just not Norton or McAfee - I think they are very unreliable.

[tipstir]

Originally Posted by kamspy

I agree that it's need in business environments for the reasons you stated.

But no educated individual has a good reason to spend a dime on it for their home computer. Even the free stuff eats up CPU cycles, memory, and pops a ton of false positives which likely confuse the user even further.

Who's buying software to protect! I am not it's all free!

This all started back in the early 90's when Norton AV first was available for DOS. There wasn't much AV back then. But Viruses did exist. There here, those in Euro started the trend. It's been business. I've been hit here myself from other users PCs but there are some free software to stop USB devices to allow to spread the pest.

New pest popup every day... On the internet, so there are real just have to believe there out there. If you want I can tall you how you can get them on your system. Then you can tell me if you think they can do damage or not? Then you might need to get one of those free-AV to get rid of the pest. I've taught many how not to get them and what to do so they don't get them. Once all this crap is going just using 4 tiny programs that don't even use very little system resources to prevent the worst from ever happening again.







DNSChanger
A new version of DNSChanger trojan has been discovered. This time, the malware doesn't only affect the system DNS settings. It targets the router itself. From a list of different routers URLs and a dictionary of default passwords, the malware brute force the web interface and hijacks DNS settings.





Well the underground folks know of these pest but these pest are getting very dangerous and software sold by Symantec can't keep up with them.

[glennb1]

Originally Posted by tipstir

If you want I can tall you how you can get them on your system.

That's OK tipstir. I don't need you to tall me anything.


I wonder if you can find some free grammar & spell checker software ?