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Old 06-07-2009, 10:02 PM   #76
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3 months smoke free. I still want one. Bad.
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Old 06-07-2009, 10:09 PM   #77
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I thought after 2 weeks of not smoking, the crave ends... Have u gained any weight? I know someone who gained 30+ pounds after stop smoking

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That is what some "experts" say, but it is not true with a lot of people. I not it is not true with me.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:00 PM   #79
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I don't and never have - but I did just go to a funeral last Wednesday of a man who died at the age of 57 from lung cancer
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:09 PM   #80
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Ahhh, but the problem is that the gov't has said smoking in public buildings is illegal so the only place to go is outside now come rain or snow. So where else is left but the moon to smoke?
I wasn't saying they should have a place INSIDE the building, just a designated area outside. Many buildings do this, but not all do.

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I have no problem with SOME reasonable limits on it at this point, but now YOU are saying not even outside in public, so that leaves NO WHERE left but the moon right?
Again, I'm not saying nowhere in public, just designated areas in public. I don't see any reason why smokers can't simply wait a little bit and smoke in an appropriate location.

I'm not responding to the tax comments you made simply because I agree - there's nothing to really discuss there.
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Old 06-08-2009, 01:11 PM   #81
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I've never been at a job where smokers got more breaks than anyones else did. At one place I worked there was a guy that went out for a smoke break once and hour or so. His boss finally told him - 1 break for every 4 hours !!
I think there are plenty of work places where the smokers do get more breaks. I think more companies are putting rules in place to prevent that though - I know at one place they have set a policy in place that basically goes with MA law.. 1 hour lunch and 2 15 minute breaks. Thats it... and it doesn't mean someone can take 3 5 minute breaks.. Simple and consistent among all the employees.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:20 PM   #82
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Ok, I just checked my birth certificate, and by golly, it didn't have a guarantee on it that everything in life would be fair.

If being a smoker in some companys results in extra breaks, one option is to start smoking; the other is to grin and bear it.
Thank you for being so cliche and using the "life ain't fair" statement.

I realize life isn't fair, but when I choose to be healthy (by not smoking) I shouldn't get penalized by not being able to take as many breaks as somebody that does smoke. I shouldn't have to risk my health just to get the same amount of breaks. Of course I could be the jerk that complains to management and if they aren't smokers I might have a case.

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Old 06-08-2009, 03:29 PM   #83
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Do you smoke cigarettes ?

Yes and they just instituted a $1 per pack tax increase here in Florida.

Now a carton of Marlboro is $38. But not as bad an New York where a carton is $75!

That is New York State BTW
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:58 PM   #84
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I thought after 2 weeks of not smoking, the crave ends... Have u gained any weight? I know someone who gained 30+ pounds after stop smoking
Not much weight gain. As far as the crave goes, it's mostly 1st thing in the morning and right after dinner. My dad hasn't smoked in 15 yrs and he said he is afraid if he smoked just one he would be hooked again.
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Do you smoke cigarettes ?

Yes and they just instituted a $1 per pack tax increase here in Florida.

Now a carton of Marlboro is $38. But not as bad an New York where a carton is $75!

That is New York State BTW
I just wish we could get everyone in the US to stop smoking/drinking and playing lotto for 1 month. Damn idiots would be passing laws forcing people to smoke, drink and play lotto again, FOR THE CHILDREN.
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I just wish we could get everyone in the US to stop smoking/drinking and playing lotto for 1 month. Damn idiots would be passing laws forcing people to smoke, drink and play lotto again, FOR THE CHILDREN.
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Gee! I wonder why they call them "Sin" taxes.
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Gee! I wonder why they call them "Sin" taxes.
"Sin" is the improper description to use, it should be the "hey look, we can vilify those people and charge them more to use legal products" tax.
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"Sin" is the improper description to use, it should be the "hey look, we can vilify those people and charge them more to use legal products" tax.
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Sin tax is a euphemism for a sumptuary tax: a tax specifically levied on certain generally socially-proscribed goods - usually alcohol and tobacco.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin_tax

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http://www.urban.org/books/TTP/davie.cfm
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:28 PM   #89
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I doubt anything is rationalized more than cigarette smoking.
The list of negatives are as long as your arm.

On the positive side (not of smoking..nothing positive there except more tax revenue) there is a steady decline:

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_stat...s/cig_smoking/
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:32 PM   #90
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Excise taxes have been and are widely used by governments to discourage consumption of specific commodities; taxes on alcoholic beverages and tobacco products are the obvious examples.
Governments are now dependent on this income, failure to use the offending products is contrary to the governments mission statement. This was the whole point of the stop doinf it for a month thing I came up with.
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