I am sick of this sh-t..........

Lee Stewart · 10-29-2009, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JMS

Who can disagree with this? The problem is that way too many people interpret "basic foundations" as Christianity, and that gives them the right to shove it down everybody else's throat.

I agree - it's like there was no religiion until the birth of Christianity.

DonnyDC · 10-29-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Maybe it is time to ban the song Ebony & Ivory too then huh?

Where does this nonsense end?

Umm I dont know where youre getting at. The song has two meanings, the literal one with the white and black keys on his piano, and the other meaning talking about racial harmony.
How youre equating that to using ethnicity to describe color in a cookie I dont know..

DonnyDC · 10-29-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Great passage by Ben Stein. I have Jewish friends and they NEVER get offended when someone says Merry Christmas to them. I have asked and NOT ONE has been the slightest bit offended. In fact most all of them say Merry Christmas to me knowing I am Christian.

It seems it is the atheists are the ones who seem to have the most issue with religious holidays. As was said earlier, Freedom OF religion has been distorted to Freedom FROM religion now, but that is NOT what it says in the Constitution.

The ones who get offended by 'Merry Christmas' are just as despicable as the ones that get insulted when you tell them 'Happy Holidays.'

Its stupidity on both sides.

DonnyDC · 10-29-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tcarcio

There's a difference between forcing things on someone or just keeping a tradition alive. For years and years people went along their way saying merry christmas or not saying anything at all and then all of a sudden in the past decade or so the bleeding hearts decided that they didn't like it and wanted it all to go away. So you see if people just did what you say and not force things on people then they would just keep their mouth shut and be on their way. So it is not us that are forcing it on anyone, we just like to keep traditions alive and the progressive nutjobs want it all their way or no way at all.

Who is this 'we.'
If you wanna say merry christmas go ahead no one is taking that away from you. If a business doesnt wanna say happy hannukah/christmas/kwanzaa and chooses to just say happy holidays then thats fine with them too.

I wonder if you follow your own advice and just 'shutup' when someone decides to say happy hanukkah to you...
As for tradition. America has been an immigrant nation ever since it was founded. The 'tradition' is multiculturalism.

tcarcio · 10-29-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

Who is this 'we.'
If you wanna say merry christmas go ahead no one is taking that away from you. If a business doesnt wanna say happy hannukah/christmas/kwanzaa and chooses to just say happy holidays then thats fine with them too.

I wonder if you follow your own advice and just 'shutup' when someone decides to say happy hanukkah to you...
As for tradition. America has been an immigrant nation ever since it was founded. The 'tradition' is multiculturalism.

The we is a general term to include people who might believe the same things. Don't read to much into it like the cookie people. And this country has it's traditions that started before you were ever thought of or me for that matter and it is the people that go into that store and start their punk ass whining that they are offended by seeing Merry Christmas that are the problem. I have no problem with anyone celebrating how they wish or saying happy or merry or whatever floats their boat and I am not offended or say anything about it like the morons that hate Christmas or any of our traditions and can't just shut up and live and let live. I hope that makes sense to you because it does to me.

**PFC5** · 10-29-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by daleb

It happened to be said by a Jew..but anyone could have said it, the message is clear.
Basic respect is in jeopardy. The constitution allows us to believe or not believe, in any way we want.
But for some that's not enough and they want to re-invent this country rather than restore the basic foundations it was founded on. The precious freedoms we enjoy have been taken for granted way too long.

Actually they have been taken away piece by piece for the last few decades IMO.

**PFC5** · 10-29-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

Umm I dont know where youre getting at. The song has two meanings, the literal one with the white and black keys on his piano, and the other meaning talking about racial harmony.
How youre equating that to using ethnicity to describe color in a cookie I dont know..

But you could say the same thing about the colors in the cookie (and Creoles heritage) being in harmony also.

The problem is that people are just looking to take things the worst way possible it seems and THAT is the problem. No one gets the benefit of the doubt and the worst is always assumed.

Rich_Guy · 10-29-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

Umm I dont know where youre getting at. The song has two meanings, the literal one with the white and black keys on his piano, and the other meaning talking about racial harmony.
How youre equating that to using ethnicity to describe color in a cookie I dont know..

I think those racist piano keys should be banned!

DonnyDC · 10-30-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

But you could say the same thing about the colors in the cookie (and Creoles heritage) being in harmony also.

The problem is that people are just looking to take things the worst way possible it seems and THAT is the problem. No one gets the benefit of the doubt and the worst is always assumed.

Im not looking for anything. If Hagaan daaz called their new line of yellow ice cream 'Oriental Surprise' then thats pretty much in your face. Just like this.

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I think those racist piano keys should be banned!

Only in your mind.

**PFC5** · 10-30-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

Im not looking for anything. If Hagaan daaz called their new line of yellow ice cream 'Oriental Surprise' then thats pretty much in your face. Just like this.

Only in your mind.

So I guess Oriental Surprise, or insert any other rationality/ethnic heritage before "Surprise" in a name for ANYTHING is now off limits?

Sorry I disagree with that.

DonnyDC · 10-30-2009, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

So I guess Oriental Surprise, or insert any other rationality/ethnic heritage before "Surprise" in a name for ANYTHING is now off limits?

Sorry I disagree with that.

So if there was ice cream called 'Oriental Surprise' just because of its yellow color that would be just fine in your mind. Maybe strawberry or any red flavor could be called 'Indian Ice.'

Uhh ok. I guess the argument ends there

**PFC5** · 10-30-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnyDC

So if there was ice cream called 'Oriental Surprise' just because of its yellow color that would be just fine in your mind. Maybe strawberry or any red flavor could be called 'Indian Ice.'

Uhh ok. I guess the argument ends there

See YOU and others like YOU look at the yellow Natural (unlike white which is unnatural) vanilla Ice Cream and see it as THE reason for it being called Asian Surprise. You spend so much time looking for the WORST WAY of looking at things and assume the worst way IS the reason like I said earlier when I said:

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The problem is that people are just looking to take things the worst way possible it seems and THAT is the problem. No one gets the benefit of the doubt and the worst is always assumed.

I guess we need to stop calling them French Fries since they are fattening and cause high cholesterol and we wouldn't want to associate those things with the French and lets stop calling ice with fruit syrup Italian Ice as well as you probably have some distorted way of looking at that as well.

Where does it end?

BTW. I am completely offended by you even using that kkk white hood smiley and you should be ashamed of yourself for using it or that it even exists.

1955 · 10-31-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PFC5

Se YOU and others like YOU look at the yellow Natural unlike white which is unnatural) vanilla Ice Cream and see it as THE reason for it being called Asian Surprise. You spend some much time looking for the WORST WAY of looking at things and assume the worst way IS the reason like I said earlier when I said:

I guess we need to stop calling them French Fries since they are fattening and cause high cholesterol and we wouldn't want to associate those things with the French and lets stop calling ice with fruit syrup Italian Ice as well as you probably have some distorted way of looking at that as well.

Where does it end?

BTW. I am completely offended by you even using that kkk white hood smiley and you should be ashamed of yourself for using it or that it even exists.

It really is the liberals that are the prejudice ones. They're SO preoccupied with it, and that's why they spend so much time blaming others, so as to keep the microscope off of themselves. The perfect example of this is the chorus of lefties saying that Rush is prejudice...I've been listening to him, off and on, for 20 years and have NEVER, EVER heard him say anything even remotely approaching a prejudice statement. They have to out and out lie about it, because they have absolutely, no proof. And it'd be easy enough to get, anyone can download his podcast and then play it over and over again on the nightly news, if he did. But there is no such thing, because it's only happened in the mind of his detractors.

1955 · 10-31-2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JMS

Who can disagree with this? The problem is that way too many people interpret "basic foundations" as Christianity, and that gives them the right to shove it down everybody else's throat.

And what lefty university did you hear that from? This country was founded on Christian beliefs and all the professors in all the universities can't change that...and it makes they're heads want to explode.

"basic foundations"=God

Christians are not trying to shove anything down your throat. Although there are private Christian organizations that are trying to protect our rights as laid out in the constitution. Like it or not, the laws in this country, ultimately came down from the Bible. If you really got what you wanted, and got all references of the Bible removed from our laws...well, even you would not want to live here.

Can you just imagine if all the lefties in San Fransisco got together and made a new constitution for our country??? Well, that's what we're trying to prevent.

JMS · 10-31-2009, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by JMS

Who can disagree with this? The problem is that way too many people interpret "basic foundations" as Christianity, and that gives them the right to shove it down everybody else's throat.

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Originally Posted by 1955

And what lefty university did you hear that from? This country was founded on Christian beliefs and all the professors in all the universities can't change that...and it makes they're heads want to explode.

"basic foundations"=God

Christians are not trying to shove anything down your throat. Although there are private Christian organizations that are trying to protect our rights as laid out in the constitution. Like it or not, the laws in this country, ultimately came down from the Bible. If you really got what you wanted, and got all references of the Bible removed from our laws...well, even you would not want to live here.

Can you just imagine if all the lefties in San Fransisco got together and made a new constitution for our country??? Well, that's what we're trying to prevent.

Thanks for proving my point