I am sick of this sh-t..........

[daleb]

Originally Posted by DIRECTVMAN

If I went to live in another country I'd be expected to go along with their traditional holidays of their country. They wouldn't say - There's an American in the room, better say HOLIDAY PARTY so he doesn't get offended.

I think this says it best:

Sent: 10/8/2009 7:55:26 A.M. Mountain Standard Time
Subj: Remarks from CBS Sunday Morning

The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on
CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

" My confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish.
And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call
those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees. I
don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against.
That's what they are, Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas'
to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to
put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that
we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of
year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene
on display at a key intersection near my beach house inMalibu
.. If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is
the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I
don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being
Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and
tired of getting pushed around, period.. I have no idea where
the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist
country.. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like
it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come
from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed
to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that's a sign
that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are
wondering where these celebrities came from and where the
America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh,
this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke;
it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and
Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this
happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina ).. Anne Graham gave an
extremely profound and insightful response. She said, 'I
believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but
for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to
get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And
being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His
protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent events... Terrorists attack, school
shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray
O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago)
complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said
OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school.
The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and
love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
when they misbehave, because their little personalities would
be warped and we might damage their self-esteem ( Dr.Spock's
son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what
he's talking about. And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no
conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it
doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and
themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can
figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP
WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the
newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how
you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the
Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude,
vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace,
but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and
workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they
believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people
think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit.

If not, then just discard it..... No one will know you did.
But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and
complain about what bad shape the world is in.

My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein"

[DonnyDC]

Originally Posted by tcarcio

Now they have racist cookies........http://www.smh.com.au/national/coles...1027-hhhk.html

How is that not racist? They arent calling them creole cookies cause its a creole recipe, theyre calling it cause of the mixture of chocolate and vanilla.
Maybe they should call them italian cookies cause of the black north african lineage in italian blood. Chocolate and vanilla get it?

[DonnyDC]

Originally Posted by 1955

Isn't it amazing that we live in a country that "allows" that??? But of course you probably get all your "news" from the NYT's, CNN and Pravda. Who's holding a gun to your head and forcing you to listen to him? Here's what I do, I refuse to read the NYT's or listen to ABC, NBC, CBS or CNN and all the other Democrat news outlets. For now, I have that freedom, but if you get your way, I'll be forced to listen to only left wing news.

If you have the right to spew your bloviating sanctimonious mendacity for all the world to hear, then so can Rush.

No one is saying anything about taking away rights. But just as you have that right to speak then others have the 'right' to call you an idiot. The NFL doesnt wanna be associated with an idiot and you call it socialism lol.

[tcarcio]

Originally Posted by DonnyDC

And minorities obviously dont matter.

Seriously who cares? no one is trying to take christmas away from you why are you trying to force it on everyone else?

There's a difference between forcing things on someone or just keeping a tradition alive. For years and years people went along their way saying merry christmas or not saying anything at all and then all of a sudden in the past decade or so the bleeding hearts decided that they didn't like it and wanted it all to go away. So you see if people just did what you say and not force things on people then they would just keep their mouth shut and be on their way. So it is not us that are forcing it on anyone, we just like to keep traditions alive and the progressive nutjobs want it all their way or no way at all.

[tcarcio]

Originally Posted by DonnyDC

How is that not racist? They arent calling them creole cookies cause its a creole recipe, theyre calling it cause of the mixture of chocolate and vanilla.
Maybe they should call them italian cookies cause of the black north african lineage in italian blood. Chocolate and vanilla get it?

Your kidding right. It took three years before anyone even said a word about these cookies and now it is all of a sudden a problem? Bullshit, You can find something wrong with anything if you look hard enough and spin it to be so. They are cookies, they don't have white hoods on or follow Lewis farrakhan they are just F'n cookies. Stop the insanity.....

[Bigloww]

Originally Posted by DonnyDC

Maybe they should call them italian cookies cause of the black north african lineage in italian blood. Chocolate and vanilla get it?

They actully would be called Sicillian cookies then, not Itallian.

[Lee Stewart]

Originally Posted by tcarcio

There's a difference between forcing things on someone or just keeping a tradition alive. For years and years people went along their way saying merry christmas or not saying anything at all and then all of a sudden in the past decade or so the bleeding hearts decided that they didn't like it and wanted it all to go away. So you see if people just did what you say and not force things on people then they would just keep their mouth shut and be on their way. So it is not us that are forcing it on anyone, we just like to keep traditions alive and the progressive nutjobs want it all their way or no way at all.

try . . .

Happy Holidays.

Can't go wrong with that well wishing.

[tcarcio]

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart

try . . .

Happy Holidays.

Can't go wrong with that well wishing.

Actually that is what I say except on Christmas day....

[PFC5]

Originally Posted by DonnyDC

How is that not racist? They arent calling them creole cookies cause its a creole recipe, theyre calling it cause of the mixture of chocolate and vanilla.
Maybe they should call them italian cookies cause of the black north african lineage in italian blood. Chocolate and vanilla get it?

Maybe it is time to ban the song Ebony & Ivory too then huh?

Where does this nonsense end?

[PFC5]

Originally Posted by daleb

I think this says it best:

Sent: 10/8/2009 7:55:26 A.M. Mountain Standard Time
Subj: Remarks from CBS Sunday Morning

The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on
CBS Sunday Morning Commentary.

" My confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish.
And it does not bother me even a little bit when people call
those beautiful lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees. I
don't feel threatened. I don't feel discriminated against.
That's what they are, Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas'
to me. I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to
put me in a ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that
we are all brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of
year. It doesn't bother me at all that there is a manger scene
on display at a key intersection near my beach house inMalibu
.. If people want a creche, it's just as fine with me as is
the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I
don't think Christians like getting pushed around for being
Christians. I think people who believe in God are sick and
tired of getting pushed around, period.. I have no idea where
the concept came from, that America is an explicitly atheist
country.. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like
it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come
from that we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed
to worship God as we understand Him? I guess that's a sign
that I'm getting old, too. But there are a lot of us who are
wondering where these celebrities came from and where the
America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh,
this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke;
it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and
Jane Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this
happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina ).. Anne Graham gave an
extremely profound and insightful response. She said, 'I
believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but
for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to
get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And
being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His
protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent events... Terrorists attack, school
shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray
O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found a few years ago)
complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said
OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school.
The Bible says thou shalt not kill; thou shalt not steal, and
love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
when they misbehave, because their little personalities would
be warped and we might damage their self-esteem ( Dr.Spock's
son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what
he's talking about. And we said okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no
conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it
doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and
themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can
figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP
WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the
newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how
you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
wildfire, but when you start sending messages regarding the
Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude,
vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace,
but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and
workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they
believe, or what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people
think of us than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit.

If not, then just discard it..... No one will know you did.
But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and
complain about what bad shape the world is in.

My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein"

Great passage by Ben Stein. I have Jewish friends and they NEVER get offended when someone says Merry Christmas to them. I have asked and NOT ONE has been the slightest bit offended. In fact most all of them say Merry Christmas to me knowing I am Christian.

It seems it is the atheists are the ones who seem to have the most issue with religious holidays. As was said earlier, Freedom OF religion has been distorted to Freedom FROM religion now, but that is NOT what it says in the Constitution.

[1955]

Originally Posted by PFC5

It seems it is the atheists are the ones who seem to have the most issue with religious holidays.

That's right on the money! It's not people with god in their lives that want to ban Christmas from our country, it's the godless that want it banned in the name of Satan.

[daleb]

Originally Posted by PFC5

Great passage by Ben Stein. I have Jewish friends and they NEVER get offended when someone says Merry Christmas to them. I have asked and NOT ONE has been the slightest bit offended. In fact most all of them say Merry Christmas to me knowing I am Christian.

It seems it is the atheists are the ones who seem to have the most issue with religious holidays. As was said earlier, Freedom OF religion has been distorted to Freedom FROM religion now, but that is NOT what it says in the Constitution.

It happened to be said by a Jew..but anyone could have said it, the message is clear.
Basic respect is in jeopardy. The constitution allows us to believe or not believe, in any way we want.
But for some that's not enough and they want to re-invent this country rather than restore the basic foundations it was founded on. The precious freedoms we enjoy have been taken for granted way too long.

[tcarcio]

Originally Posted by daleb

It happened to be said by a Jew..but anyone could have said it, the message is clear.
Basic respect is in jeopardy. The constitution allows us to believe or not believe, in any way we want.
But for some that's not enough and they want to re-invent this country rather than restore the basic foundations it was founded on. The precious freedoms we enjoy have been taken for granted way too long.

Well said......

[JMS]

Originally Posted by 1955

Isn't it amazing that we live in a country that "allows" that??? But of course you probably get all your "news" from the NYT's, CNN and Pravda. Who's holding a gun to your head and forcing you to listen to him? Here's what I do, I refuse to read the NYT's or listen to ABC, NBC, CBS or CNN and all the other Democrat news outlets. For now, I have that freedom, but if you get your way, I'll be forced to listen to only left wing news.

If you have the right to spew your bloviating sanctimonious mendacity for all the world to hear, then so can Rush.

Where the hell did I say Druggie Lumpball didn't have the right to do his "thing"? Far be it from me to deprive his legion of ditto-heads their marching orders.

I sample him from time to time, and no, no one's holding a gun to my head. Occasionally he's mildly entertaining, especially when he's in his comedian mode. I find his Bill Clinton imitations precious. Poor guy seems to be flummoxed by Obama, however. It always comes out as thinly veiled racism. But yes, that's why the NFL is embaressed by him: Because he is one.

Give him credit for one thing: He's far better than his special needs cousin, Glenn Beck.

[JMS]

Originally Posted by daleb

It happened to be said by a Jew..but anyone could have said it, the message is clear.
Basic respect is in jeopardy. The constitution allows us to believe or not believe, in any way we want.
But for some that's not enough and they want to re-invent this country rather than restore the basic foundations it was founded on. The precious freedoms we enjoy have been taken for granted way too long.

Who can disagree with this? The problem is that way too many people interpret "basic foundations" as Christianity, and that gives them the right to shove it down everybody else's throat.